Need auto strain advice

[D.D.]

This coming spring will be my first time growing a auto and i need help with strain selection.

I am looking for something fast (90 day-ish, seed to finish),
heavy yielding, potent, and frost resistant.

Looking for something i can put out and have it almost ready when im planting for my summer season.

Thanks for any help in advance.

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[Rbh420]

may be you can make a research in some cold country forum.
the best way to see what is the better strain for you .
low ryder is a proven one from danemark

 

[D.D.]

I have tried tried the most northern forums Rbh420, but i have a language barrier.
Thank you for Low Ryder. I will be looking into it as a possibility. And welcome! BTW

By "heavy yielding" i am speaking in terms of autos and short strains, not looking for the impossible miracle, although i like to dream the impossible dream at times.

I ordered a couple of Sensi's Ruderalis Skunk. The description says 45-65 days flowering,
but nothing is said about veg time... leaving me somewhat in the dark on veg time.

No doubt of getting it up to 4-6 nodes in 30 days, but does it flower by node count or by age?
Just small little bits and peaces of important info is missing in some strain descriptions.

So i come here for help in selecting a 90 day seed to finish auto for an early outdoor grow.

 

[Husky Jackal]

Hi D.D, thanks for the rep, can't give you any for the moment.
I tried an auto last year outdoor, it was grown in mediocre conditions but I got 20g and it was very potent for me. It's Green Poison Auto from Sweet Seeds, was done in 63 days. They have some good potent autos like Black Jack or Cream Caramel which can yield surprisingly well if grown right.
Start them indoor and after 7-10 days transplant them in the final pot or hole(4-5 gallons) and they should do great.
Any more questions ?
Peace, HJ.

 

[D.D.]

Thanks Husky Jackal,
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Husky Jackal again"

 

[Husky Jackal]

I forgot to say that with most autos you can feed just like you do with normal strains, some can be a little picky while others are hungry beasts. But if you transplant them in a good soil mix you can get away with only a few feedings.
Other great auto seedbanks are Mdanzig, Secret Garden Seeds, Flash Seeds, Short Stuff, from them you can find non feminized autos.
If you have any more questions, you can go to the Autoflower section and ask Mitch Connors, the autoflower mentor.
All the best !
Peace, HJ.

 

[moondawg]

DD, i know an old ky boy that had a dog gone stellar little grow of Paradise vertigo. I grew several strains a few years back and wasnt that impressed with the potency but I think some of the newer varieties might have made some real progress on that front.

The vertigo was a good soid 8. As good a alot of full season strains in about 75 days. I was impressed.

 

[D.D.]

I feel like a little kid here, but i really really really want to set one outdoors just as soon as the days start getting longer, be it frost or snow-flurries it has to deal with. i need a survivor first and potency is second, but not last.
If that makes any sense, since im smokin leaf. <-----Hey! Over Here-----<

 

[opiumo]

Tanska and Dyr from denmark breed some heavy frost and moldresistant hybrid called Typhoon, not that potent but 8 out of 10 phenos reached over 2metres and gave me more then enough of smoke. But also not the most exotic smoke so to speak. Auto ak47 might be something worth looking into also? Myself is going for the Auto AK47X from Norden Seeds, we'll see how they do.

 

[D.D.]

Sorry people, i have been lacking words, but not by choice. Pain has a grip upon me, and the only way to break that grip at the moment is taking meds that put me out.. not by choice, but more from lack of smoke.
I sit here, type a sentense or 2 and fall asleep on the keyboard.. My words come out either wrong or short of a full message. I apologize for this.

I have been looking at the strains suggested here, and as many of you know, descriptions sometimes lack descriptions of required environmental conditions.

moondawg, you describe a lot of the growing conditions that i face, i am at 38n..
you and i face many of the same challenges every year.
So i have to ask you about the vertigo.. What is the earliest date i can put it outdoor
assuming that i manage to find a way to germ it indoors?
If i manage a way to somehow germ it indoors, i cant leave it indoors too long..
maybe until its second true set of leafs tops.. after then it will have to go out.
Thanks in advance moondawg.

opiumo, heavy frost and mould resistant is exactly what i need, but i dont see
any of those breeders/venders listed at seedboutique. Maybe i am overlooking
them somehow.. i will be looking at the auto AK47.
Thank you for the help opiumo, i will keep my eyes open.

 

[D.D.]

I need an auto that will handle conditions like this (or worse) if need be:

Anyone know if Ruderalis Skunk will fit the bill, and if half of them actually begin flowering at 7th node?

 

[tommy1984]

Hey there DD.. Take a look at MI5 its has an ak47 back ground and will finish in 90 days. I set mine out at the of march last year and they survived. BUT you will get much more growth out of ANY plant auto or not if you set it out in the start of summer. Ive seen a member from another forum pull 4-5 oz off mi5 and onxy by stitch.. attitude carry's them.

 

[easy]

Check out unleashthegreen.net, the forum mainly focuses on short season and auto strains/growing.

 

[D.D.]

I can not view the site you linked, i suppose they want my email address before i can read?

 

[easy]

Yeah you have to be a member to view/participate in the forum.

 

[habeeb]

well wanting to plant in frost is not really ideal, or logical. that is more for indoor, as you are wanting something un-realistic, it's why we have indoor gardens.. you can plant all year.

now, of all autos I've ran, I like lowryder. but they might be a little to small for your liking, but they always sex, and flower fast.

also as I can always leave people, make seed, so you have hundreds or thousands to play with later, and never need to count each one surviving ever again.

 

[D.D.]

I know it sounds unrealistic habeeb,
but there has to be a bean acclimatized to grow just south of arctic regions.
Sensi Seeds website lists Ruderalis Skunk as being in a class of plants

Sensi Seeds website [*1]
...often specifically bred for outdoor growing in the north and are capable of growing and flowering at latitudes above 50N and, in some cases, as high as 60N.

, and its tidbits of information like that which fuel my quest to find such a strain.

Sure, i learn the hard way by sitting a plant in the ground during near impossible growing conditions, but it is a learning process... and even after 30 some years, i am still learning.

That plant in the picture is probably done for, but its something that had to be done, simply because i see nothing of anyone else doing it.
The same plant if placed into a simple hoop house about 3ft tall x 4-5ft wide would survive.

I have grown in temps down in the mid to lo 30(F) ...sometimes colder... and done alright, but the covering stands out a little too much for my comfort.

Oh how i wish i could have an indoor garden, but i cant risk losing my home because the government claims that my medicine has no medical value.

 

[skullznroses]

the only way to grow in these colder conditions is to better understand growing, your question falls under the category of just wishing you can do something you know nothing about with the help of a special strain.

THe only way to grow past the non-frost season is to do something to protect your plant. Cannabis slows its growth as it gets colder, weed just doesn't grow bigger when its that cold.

Good luck.

 

[D.D.]

the only way to grow in these colder conditions is to better understand growing, your question falls under the category of just wishing you can do something you know nothing about with the help of a special strain.

THe only way to grow past the non-frost season is to do something to protect your plant. Cannabis slows its growth as it gets colder, weed just doesn't grow bigger when its that cold.

Good luck.

Enlighten me please.

I have an indica outdoors in flower right now as i type.
It is a guerrilla grow (except from the sky) out in the woods,
and yes it really is in East-Eastern Kentucky, pal. 38 North lat.
It will be harvested new years eve, after which i will post up a
picture of the actual solar heat collecting outdoor grow rig.

I been around, and i have seen plants that push right up through
the snow, just haven't possessed any strains capable of this.
So yeah, i need help of a special strain in the sense that it should
be able to take the elements and keep on growing.

The strains are out there... somewhere... probably available at seedboutique.

I do every aspect of growing outdoors, and am no stranger to cold and frost.

Grow a mother plant, root clones from her, every single year, and
have done it all outdoors, guerrilla style for decades.

But am i looking for a strain i can start and harvest extra early, or extra late?
Dam right i am.
Why? you ask...
Because its out there, somewhere... and i want to grow it.
I want to watch the little plants push hte snow away.

You dont have to take my word for it, but such a strain does exist.
I dont know its name, but it dont like warm weather, and hot weather kills it.

I probably took your post way out of context, well... i hope i did actually, i only
want to clarify what it is the strain i seek out. It does exist somewhere.

Peace

 

[D.D.]

Moodawg, a good solid 8, scale of 1-10 in potency sounds good, does it like cold?
Is it something i would need to give a lot of attention to, or will it hold its own?

I am looking at a 10 fem right now for reference...
Dont have a clue of how it will handle frost, and its a darn good sounding price for 10pk Fem Autos, but remembering the unusually warm spring we had last year, and knowing what spring holds in store is just a flip of a coin, would you start them outdoors around mid-march, or would you wait until later in the year?

The description reads:

These plants can reach the height of 1 meter or taller. It has a strong effect. An impressive production of resinous citric fruity aromatic flowers. A fast to finish variety, in approximately 60 days excellent for commercial growers

Can you ask your buddy if he topped them, and if it can be topped numerous times, will it affect production/yield in a positive or negative way?

If i can get one to produce 100s of pipe packer size buds, by megatopping, i might have enough stash to last me the summer, possibly having something left over for the yeari get completely wiped out... talking growing all 10 seeds and keeping it all relatively short like the 2nd run on a barbed wire fence (bottom to top), even if by having to tie each branch outwards with some bare copper house wiring... could you ask your friend if it can be trained to vine around a barbwire fence?

I put a lot of questions there, but i am new to autos, and if the strain will do what i need from a strain... i can wait until after the last frost to plant, and you may have pointed towards something i want to try... Plus the price on that 10pk Fem Autos just got better... now i will have to study on a papa plant if i want to make seed.

Hum... maybe i have one in mind already... just take a few seasons to get mommy traits narrowed back down and stable before i make any real usable seed.

(and i will be back and edit in questions for others if it will let me)
Thanks for all the replies.