billy, same experiance with fed's f2's. we didnt get anything that resembled the original we had in the late 90's. we worked with a couple different phenos back then. the best we had for what we needed it for was a sweet rasberry pheno that finished in 7 weeks flat. we would have outdoor done by the end of aug early sept every year. we also had the spg pheno, but didnt do well out for us but a buddy ran her in a few times with great results.i was very sad when we lost the mother for these years ago, but was really happy when i saw fed releasing the f2's. i grabbed a pack and was sad again when i saw the results. hopefully the gn version will give some of the original phenos.I love Mikado. Grew some f2's of Federation's old stuff very recently but they were producing some plants that were sex confused, male-like looking bells with female stigmas/pistils protruding from them....seemed to be genuinely female but quite confusing and would take a bit of work to clean them up from the tendency, so I guess the beans might end up going stale before I ever get around to fixing the problem. Too many strains on hand...too little time
BB