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Bad anxiety patient looking for help.

Bi0hazard

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Cannatonic or Harlequin ftw. The cannatonic was akin to xanax or klonopin for me personally.

Interesting.. Did it have negative effects on memory? Cannatonic sounds like it's in the right direction.

Both cannatonic and harlequin are well known to be some of the highest CBD rated medical strains. So that makes a lot of sense...
 
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Hammerhead

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I have tried to obtain this with no luck.. The only genetics I can find are from the CBD Crew. I have contacted them no reply's yet
 
I only know of 3 places that are involved in the cbd crew production, and thats Dutch Passion, Mr. Nice, and Resin. Shantibaba has already answered a lot of questions about CBD Crew on his forums, thats why I recommend going there for information.
 
Those three are the only ones I know of as well when it comes to production. I was referring to Hammerhead's post and understood him to say he was trying to order without success. In that case, there are other companies which sell CBD Crew seeds. Indeed, one company in particular offers many more varieties than the Mr. Nice auctions.
 
I went through mr. nice's reseller Seedsman to get my CBD Crew seeds. (not sure if I'm allowed to say that or not here, if not, sorry. )

EDIT: I must of read his post wrong, thought he was looking for information on the seeds.
 

Hammerhead

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there are 2 CBD SEEDS and CBD Crew. I dont know if there the same people. There available at the usual places. Im looking for.
Z7 in particular. Its listed at 7% CBD 10% THC. I cant find in eithers strain list. Might be a limited release.

CBD Crew all but 2 are fem and it all say : 1:1 THC:CBD Ratio - a CBD rich strain

CBD SEEDS all are fem none say what the CBD values are...
 

SCF

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purple haze. when i get it tested. i know it will be very high in cbd, cbn. pure purple bud.


Honestly, find a good Physiatrist. To get you on the right Meds. You will need to be on them for life. Maybe even a longer term Anti Anxiety like Klonopin.

Dr. Jay gave me this advice several times. And im glad i took it. i live much happier and richer life. one day at a time. Its the difference of quality of life. Yeah it sucks to be chained to a pill. but it also feels great to take that edge off, and be able to concentrate, and feel comfortable in your own skin again. Best Wishes.
 

Hammerhead

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Agree but if I can find a rich CBD strain I might not need to take as much like my Morpine. I was taking 200+mg a day now im down to 80mg+ cannabis...
 
S

Space Ghost

if you're going to treat anxiety with cannabis, it needs to be a fairly specific type, in my experience at least... and that type is very mild sativa (very very mild) and indicas that have a good touch of a sativa in their genes... strains...

bubblegum varieties: bogglegum from bog, serious bubblegum, Indiana bubblegum clone, nirvana bubblegum...

skunk varieties: skunk #1 (any breeder, just about), cheese clone, blue cheese, sweet skunk, belladonna, superskunk, mr nice 'shit', shiva ect ect ect... cant speak highly enough of the skunk gene pool!

blueberry varieties: djs blueberry, sol blue sat, blue cheese, bogs lifesaver... any blueberry cross really...

random strains/clones that work well for anxiety: plush berry, nl #1, a11, pot of gold, golden skush...

whatever road you go down... good luck and try to keep the pills to a minimum... they help, but they hurt too
 
Z6 and Z7 are listed on Mr. Nice's forums as test seeds. I guess if they are still running the test you would have to sign up for it.

Just found this information too.

The zZseries, Z6 and Z7, are back cross hybrids of The Remedy. The Remedy is a strain made by a collaboration of Mr. Nice Seedbank and Resin Seeds to produce plants with a 1:1 THC:CBD ratio. Resin Seeds female Cannatonic (MK Ultra x G13/Haze) crossed to the MNS Afghan/Skunk (Nordle). Slected phenotypes of The Remedy were chosen to make Z6 & Z7.

Regular seed versions of both Z6 & Z7 were made by crossing the selected Remedy phenotypes back to the Nordle male. Feminine seed was made by crossing the selected Remedy plants with a reversed Cannatonic female. That's how Z6 and Z7 regular and female seed were made.

So looks like if you want to have Z6 and Z7 you would have to grow out CBD Nordle? :S
 

sso

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while certain strains can be better, the best technique is to change your mind.


when i used to get really paranoid and anxiety attacks, i got really tired of it and just went

"fuck off with that shit."

whenever my head started with it.

its just you talking, autoloop like a bad record, grooves in your mind.

just say "fuck off."

to that shit

and make some new shit.

notice the beauty around you.

do some fun shit.

think about good things.

the more you keep at it.

the more the "bad" will

fade away.
 
C

Chamba

There's lots of ways to help minimize anxiety without drugs, which more often than not will simply only temporarily mask the problem, but do nothing about the cause........everyone is different and the thing is to find what works for you. I find with my anxiety that a combination of being healthy and active really helps.

It might be a daily session of yoga or meditation ...it might be running or fast walking each day...or a change to a healthy diet....a change of address....or start training at a boxing gym or cliff climbing...or maybe a combination of a few of those to help your mind and body get back to being solid, strong, calm and stable.

you can take a pharmaceutical pill or drink and or smoke yourself retarded...but instead try putting in some effort and taking your life into your own hands. If you are under 45, walk into a boxing gym...I guarantee that any anxiety you suffer from will diminish as you advance into this sport. The same goes for yoga, find a good teacher you can relate to and you will find benefits in mind and body.

I'm not saying give up ganja, but like anything, the right strain and the right amount with the right timing are important.
 

sso

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yes,


while i normally do not recommend pharma drugs (synthetics.) that are mind related, sometime they can be a last resort and work in some cases.


but, see, drugs, particularily herbal drugs can be of use to help with the problem.
masking the symptoms, easing the process, but ultimately the responsibility of fixing this, lies with you.

might take awhile, but it can be done.


try to surround yourself with positive people, nice people. at least one or 2 you have a chat with occasionally.

do not associate over much with negative types.


change your scenery, make your home lovely. nice to live in.

go do things you always wanted to do but never did.

all the cliches you can think of, try them. (well, the easiest way is just to try the ones You are drawn to.)

they are cliches because they work. (just have to find the right one for you.)
 

demasoni

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smokditup,

Sorry to hear you've had to deal with anxiety and ocd. I'm dealing with the same mess myself exactly. I've definitely been there wanting to 'just smash someones face in' while on the meds. I'm still that way after quitting the meds, but never felt it before starting them...
I experienced all of the bad side effects of the SSRI so I tried tapering off.
Each decrease in dosage left me feeling incredibly better ( like my old self). I was feeling amazing until I got to like 15mg where I felt bad whether I went up or down. My psychiatrist told me I could just stop completely so I did- then I went through HELL but psychiatrist said it would pass and I could tough it out. However I have not recovered psychologically or physiologically and things have only worsened. I cannot handle MJ anymore either.

Feels like brain damage, like I'm slowly dying, can't think clearly anymore, feel dumber. Have you experienced this?

Did you find you were able to smoke a greater variety of weed while taking your SSRI? Are you now more prone to panic attacks from smoking since you quit the drugs?

I ask because shortly after I quitting my SSRI I could no longer enjoy mj. It used to work wonders with my anxiety and allow me to function. I used to could smoke anything, then one day I felt something change in my brain and MJ "stopped working". Since then I've only tried unknown bagweed - a sat dominant purp indica hybrid, some mexi sat/indica, and some other generic hybrid. All made me completely freak out, paranoia, racing heart, impaired, almost tripping. It feels like I smoked something "hard" instead of just weed. in the past any such bagweed, especially the mexi, would have just felt "weak".
Have you experienced any of this?
How about anyone else?

Here are strains that worked for me before my brain got so fucked up:
Blueberry (believe it was DJ shorts true blueberry, balanced indica/sat pheno)
-Blue cheese (the most floral smelling pheno, so powerful it was aroma therapeutic)
- Cheese (mine was big buddha cross, pure funk with fruity tones)
- real Grapefruit cut
-Blue dream
-Skunk #1 (sometimes a little racy, need most indica pheno)
-OG kush
-Chocolate kush varieties
-Real Sour diesel
-White widow (I think what I had was mr nices black widow, smelled like pine and bleach)
-Medicine Man (white rhino, but the hard hitting indica pheno)
-Certain varieties of REAL "purp", a non purple pheno of grand daddy or another elite purple- very distinct foral "purp" odor.
-I've also had what I guess was a real chitral kush, an afghani/paki type kush with very high limonene (you could taste and smell it, lemons and kush) worked incredibly well.
There are many other strains I tried that had to be elite cuts and they worked wonders for my anxiety and focus, gave power to my body. Unfortunately I could not get the name of the strain most times.
Smokditup, I'm thinking our brains/bodies might have a similar affinity for the same types of strains
 

smokditup

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Thanks for the replys everyone...

Demasoni,
I was prozac for 12 years of my life. Im 22 years old now. I was on them at age 10!. Ive been up and down on doses all my life from 20mg-80mg. It makes me sick thinking about it...
I only quit all this recently , say 6 months go.
I do believe the OCD has got worse.. Prozac really does help ocd.

I think what you maybe could be experiencing is serotonin syndrome, a very mild case when coming off ssris or having too much etc. I get jittery , "feel like my body is not connected to the other side of my body". Confusion. Feeling like a dumbass. Sometimes stuttering etc. I hope they go away...and I hope they go away for you too.. But from one anxiety patient to another, me and you both know that if you keep telling yourself your getting these symptoms , youll get them or you WILL make your symptoms worse. Distract yourself. Every week I have some new "health" issue to worry about...

Ive had MANY panic attacks on marijuana, MANY. Im in australia and cant pick my strains. So im limited to growing my own via seeds which can be a lengthy process to find myself a suitable strain. I have recently been smoking an unknown hydro bud that I scored from a friend. A VERY old veteran toker who knows what I go through.. So i Rely on him to tell me what he thinks of the pot hes giving me. So far so good. Ive smoked only 2 bowls for 2 weeks. Ive had only ONE unrelated panic attack from the MJ while on it.. Im all out of it now.. And got some differet strain which again he reassures me is a little stronger but no way racy whatsoever.

Im very confused about all this
THC VS CBD VS INDICA VS SATIVA.
All I thought is that Indica DOM strains will not produce anxiety. They are more "in the body" rather than "In the Head". I always regard indica strains similar to valium...
Everything feels "slow" "delayed reaction of around 2 seconds when moving your head" and muscles feel heavy...
 

Hammerhead

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thats very young for such drugs like Benzo's. I did not start taking mine until I became 48..I never had issues when I was young. I was very Active. Was a Motrcross racer 125/250 class. It was so much fun.. I did smoke allot of cannabis back then but so did everyone..

I had horrible results with Sativa strains and anxiety.. It would make it worce. Indica makes you calm/relaxed Sativas do the opposite of that. Nobody I know would recommend a Sativa for controlling Anxiety
 
T

texsativa

Well I will say there is some very good advice and some very bad advice being thrown around in this thread.

For one, familial anxiety is not something that is just "in your head", something you can shake off by eating healthy, etc.

Second, it is very important to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and to eat a balanced diet and supplement with a multivitamin high in antioxidants. Look into fish oil as well. Aside from a healthy diet, exercise is a must.

Third, meditation, or a hobby, something that relaxes you, is important. Try to find some happiness somewhere.

Fourth, seek PROFESSIONAL help.

I echo SCF.
 
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