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The Pollution Factory

iampolluted

iampolluted

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it's recycled organic, and most likely deficient in something or a combo of that and the thrips. once i get through this harvest, which will be one of the biggest, i'll be starting to get this going the way i want. so far not much larf on anything other than the trees. the racks are filling in nice, and the tops of the gb are getting fat as hell but it has larf. that's only because i'm not running the lower mh.

i'll get this thing running smoothly before too long and i'll be able to devote all my time to getting it right. fuck working. if i can concentrate of turning this hobby into a job, i don't think my life would be as difficult. little set backs in every aspect put back the entire prospect. i'll get there tho.

i'm working on getting to the point where i don't have to buy anything anymore other than electricity and simple amendments. got a worm farm going so i have no waste to put a red flag up or leave evidence. low key and playing the game smarter than the rest is what keeps the factory running.
 
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willyweed

dont ever be too afraid to take a bit of advice from other growers that plant in the bottom right of the first photo defo looks slightly over fed the tip burn i have had exectly the same on mine and it was from too much food 100% see if you can get some close up pics of it please! sorry to hear you got ripped
 
iampolluted

iampolluted

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it could be a bit hot, i didn't water it much before the transplant. i had em root bound for a week or two. like i said things have been rough but they are getting better in some ways. once i get through this harvest i have another 20 to run through and hopefully a good start on my clones to fill the rest of the room. i figure i have about $200 worth of shit to buy before i'll be set to run thins thing proper. the new year is gonna be fun. i can't wait until i can harvest every 2-3 weeks, plus some mini trees between the 4 1k's. it's just frustrating getting there. baby steps is what i have to keep reminding myself.
 
Mister_D

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iampolluted said:
it's recycled organic, and most likely deficient in something or a combo of that and the thrips. once i get through this harvest, which will be one of the biggest, i'll be starting to get this going the way i want. so far not much larf on anything other than the trees. the racks are filling in nice, and the tops of the gb are getting fat as hell but it has larf. that's only because i'm not running the lower mh.

i'll get this thing running smoothly before too long and i'll be able to devote all my time to getting it right. fuck working. if i can concentrate of turning this hobby into a job, i don't think my life would be as difficult. little set backs in every aspect put back the entire prospect. i'll get there tho.

i'm working on getting to the point where i don't have to buy anything anymore other than electricity and simple amendments. got a worm farm going so i have no waste to put a red flag up or leave evidence. low key and playing the game smarter than the rest is what keeps the factory running.
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Take my advice or leave it, but i've been at this growing thing on professional level for many years now. You soil isn't deficient, it's overloaded with nutes. Your plants are showing the claw, and signs of lockout. Though deficent and overfed look similar I assure you they are distinctly different. Being you are growing with nutes already mixed in you havn't got much choice, but to plug on with straight water and hope for the best :comfort:.

iampolluted said:
low key and playing the game smarter than the rest is what keeps the factory running.
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This is some of the best advice a grower could ever get.... K+
 
iampolluted

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the reason i don't think it's being overfed is because it's reused soil (2nd or 3rd run). nothing has been added back to it. it's already gone through a previous flower run (or 2), with a different strain(s), and those plants were fine. the bd has been like that since the day i got the cut and every cut i've taken looks like that. even the guy i got the cut from, who grew it with bottled nutes, had the same type of leaves. i will admit that some of the bd did grow into the lights during veg., but i don't know which 1's did specifically.

the rest of my plants are in the same mix as well, and none of em are showing N claw, or any other burn marks, just thrip damage. check out the gb test run, those are in the same soil, as well as the df.

straight water is all they've gotten from day 1 this run. no additives, no nutes, just plain ole water from the a/c runoff.

once this run is done i'll be starting everything from scratch again. i figure i need about 120 gallons of dirt to do what i need to, and i only have about 60 right now.

pics are the last run of bd...and mom.
 
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iampolluted

iampolluted

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yep, it's blue dream. it started as lc's mix #1 recipe #1, and evolved to the 3 little birds mix when i added DE and some other minerals like rock phosphate.

who, they aren't over watered. i have a horrible tendency to underwater is most cases. they've been stressed in more ways than i can count. root bound, a 2 week delay on transplant (waiting for the soil to cook a bit and they were hungry), bugs, light burns, slime during cloning. not sure how i could stress em any more actually, so yeah they've gotten fucked this run. they are doing ok now, not losing leaves, and the buds are fattening up. like i said it was a rough year, but the next run will be quality. i've worked too long and hard fixing the small problems. once i have everything i need i'll be good to go.
 
Mister_D

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iampolluted said:
yep, it's blue dream. it started as lc's mix #1 recipe #1, and evolved to the 3 little birds mix when i added DE and some other minerals like rock phosphate.

who, they aren't over watered. i have a horrible tendency to underwater is most cases. they've been stressed in more ways than i can count. root bound, a 2 week delay on transplant (waiting for the soil to cook a bit and they were hungry), bugs, light burns, slime during cloning. not sure how i could stress em any more actually, so yeah they've gotten fucked this run. they are doing ok now, not losing leaves, and the buds are fattening up. like i said it was a rough year, but the next run will be quality. i've worked too long and hard fixing the small problems. once i have everything i need i'll be good to go.
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Now it makes more sense. Those minerals, and long term ammendments in 3LB's mix are now becoming available after a few runs, that is causing the imbalances and over feeding symptoms you are seeing. You best option is to start over with fresh mix next round. I'd recommend you stick with one of lc's mixes, and keep it simple until you understand what your adding a bit better. Unfortunately there's not much you can do for this round, just give them the best care you can.
 
whodare

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Can't be as bad as losing every plant in your house to the most insidious plant disease the government ever helped to spread.

Don't ask me how I know.

Don't be afraid to ask for help, most people here are willing to help, you have thousands of years experience at your fingertips, use them. Ask ask ask. And if you run into problems do t be afraid to share, everyone has had shitty grows.
 
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willyweed

all the stress in the world won't make those tips burn like that. even your first photo's show it,that burnt bit at the end of the leaves is the stress and it looks like classic fert burn spots on the leaves i had exactly the same 4 weeks ago if it is not fert burn it could be soil burn something is wrong .good luck in the future
 
iampolluted

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it funny you mention that. i can see that could probably be the case. between the breakdown of those minerals and the ewc that are running out, i can see how it's entirely plausible.

next run i'll probably only adding back DE, DL, EWC, and tossing in some guano i have laying around. the rest won't be added back. by then i should have ewc tea's to feed should anything arise.

once i'm able to get a fresh start with all the soil i need and a regular schedule to my runs, i'll be able to dial my dirt in a lot easier. until then i'm just waiting on harvest...kinda weird the BD is the only strain of 4 that doesn't look like they are happy despite their own problems.
 
iampolluted

iampolluted

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if ya look at the 1st pics on the 1st page, you'll see slightly burnt tips. those were a sleestak x la confidential cross. this is the same soil, with nothing added back. pulled the root balls, and threw the dirt in the tub, mixed it back up and repotted the bd's. the mix isn't for every strain, and i think i can get the bd to a mix it likes but, like i said, it's all reused right now. didn't wanna re-amend the mix, because i didn't have everything i needed at the time and have seen people do the same and turned out fine.

i don't even wanna know about that disease....thrips are as bad as i wanna get and they still suck.
 
whodare

whodare

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Can't beat it, only prevent. Actinovate is great stuff.

You mentioned cloning trouble, try physan20 instead of bleach, it's much more effective.

Fungus gnats spread it too.
The fungal pathogen Fusarium oxysporum affects a wide variety of hosts of any age. Tomato, tobacco, legumes, cucurbits, sweet potatoes and banana are a few of the most susceptible plants, but it will also infect other herbaceous plants.[2] Fusarium oxysporum generally produces symptoms such as wilting, chlorosis, necrosis, premature leaf drop, browning of the vascular system, stunting, and damping-off. The most important of these is vascular wilt.[3] Fusarium wilt starts out looking like vein clearing on the younger leaves and drooping of the older lower leaves, followed by stunting of the plant, yellowing of the lower leaves, defoliation, marginal necrosis and death of the plant. On older plants, symptoms are more distinct between the blossoming and fruit maturation stages.[4]
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There is growing interest in using Fusarium wilt as a form of biological control. Certain pathogenic strains of F. oxysporum could be released to infect and control invasive weed species. This type of control (called a mycoherbicide) would be more targeted than herbicide applications, without the associated problems of chemical use. In addition. F. oxysporum may compete with other soil fungi that act as pathogens of important crops. Introducing specific strains of F. oxysporum that are not pathogenic (or non-infectious mutants of pathogens) to nearby crops could take nutrients from other potential disease-causing fungi.[1]
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iampolluted

iampolluted

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didn't have the money for physan, so i tried bleach a few times, didn't work. gave up for awhile, then i cleaned everything with rubbing alcohol. haven't used it yet, but after harvest i'm gonna see if it worked. picked up some tetra easy balance to help any fluctuations of the water during cloning. we'll see soon enough. still have a few more weeks of roughing it before i can get moving forward again.
 
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