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smokditup

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Hey guys. Bassically its a long story short. I can no longer have SSRI drugs to help me with my anxiety.
I have been on prozac for 14 years of my life. To some this is ridiculous... But I must admit they really did help me. I now have physical health issues from ssri drugs which I wont go into unless anyone is interested.

I NEED marijuana for my anxiety. Thing is... Sativas give me panic attacks... Ive never ever known what ive smoked before. Its all bagseed... I have some at the moment. Its unknown. Its semi relaxing but for some reason it makes me think a little bit too much which I DONT like... I started to panic yesterday because "I simply couldnt remember where i knew a familar face from... Not sure why I panicked..."

Some strains ive done some research are on which would be good for me are...

Sensi Northern lights (90% indica)
Hindu Kush (100% landrace indica)
Black Domina (95% indica)

Can anyone comment on these strains? The website gives the indica percentages but still... I do NOT want my mind wandering. I love the affects of valium and oxy's. Its the only thing that calms me down now. I am trying meditation and excercise and recently quit cigarettes...

Thankyou guys

:huggg:
 
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OrganicOzarks

Hey guys. Bassically its a long story short. I can no longer have SSRI drugs to help me with my anxiety.
I have been on prozac for 14 years of my life. To some this is ridiculous... But I must admit they really did help me. I now have physical health issues from ssri drugs which I wont go into unless anyone is interested.

I NEED marijuana for my anxiety. Thing is... Sativas give me panic attacks... Ive never ever known what ive smoked before. Its all bagseed... I have some at the moment. Its unknown. Its semi relaxing but for some reason it makes me think a little bit too much which I DONT like... I started to panic yesterday because "I simply couldnt remember where i knew a familar face from... Not sure why I panicked..."

Some strains ive done some research are on which would be good for me are...

Sensi Northern lights (90% indica)
Hindu Kush (100% landrace indica)
Black Domina (95% indica)

Can anyone comment on these strains? The website gives the indica percentages but still... I do NOT want my mind wandering. I love the affects of valium and oxy's. Its the only thing that calms me down now. I am trying meditation and excercise and recently quit cigarettes...

Thankyou guys

:huggg:

As a life long anxiety sufferer I can tell you that it is all in your head.:)

Marijuana is not the fix for anxiety. The fix is inside of you. You need to get to the root of the problem not just try to medicate it. If you have been drugged for 14 years then you have a lot of catching up to do.

You have to fix the problem. that is the only solution. Also you are assbackwards on the types of herb that are best for anxiety. If you have anxiety then sativas will do a reverse on you, and chill you out.

It's like a hyper person taking aderrall. It calms them down. I only smoke sativas, or sativa dominant strains. I will not touch indica strains. They can give me anxiety.

The best thing to do is to start with your diet, and exercise. Switch to non-gmo organic food. Drop meat if you can, and exercise at least 5 days a week. It is better if you can exercise everyday. Running, cycling, weight lifting, yoga, pallates, whatever. Just workout everyday, and it will help to level your head.

You also need to read as much as possible about the chemical process of anxiety. Learn what is going on so that you can one day realize that it is truly all in your head.:)

Once you do this then anxiety will not be a prison sentence. You can then liberate yourself from it, and enjoy a very fruitful life.

On a side note I also feel that being outdoors with nature helps out a lot. spending time with your plants does as well. Nature is very peaceful. If you live in a city it will be much harder to over come. Cities just bread anxiety. The traffic, noise, stop lights, the heat in the summer from the concrete, everyone is tweeking out on their cell phones.

If possible spend some time in nature to combat the tweeky in a hurry lifestyle of the city.

You can get over your shit. You just have to face it, and you can't face it if you are drugged.
 

miniman

Member
big words... i cant recommend to stop being drugged if your really feeling an attack coming up ... have fun, weed can also help if your trying to feel happy.
although the point aabout sativas being helpful is right, you should at least try them. can´t help you with any strains, most are good, depends on breeder.
 

WelderDan

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As a former depression and anxiety sufferer, I can tell you SSRI's did nothing for my anxiety. Anxiety can go hand in hand with depression, which SSRI's are primarily prescribed for. Of course some psychiatrists may prefer to go the SSRI route to treat anxiety even if depression isn't present because they are not keen on prescribing Xanax or Ativan or something similar due to the potential for abuse.

As for using herb, my personal experience was not very good. Sativa's would trigger an anxiety attack every time. I had much better luck with Indica strains, but even then it was a crap shoot and sometimes smoking anything would trigger an attack.

As everyone is different chemically, this does not hold true from person to person, it was just my personal experience.

I won't go into details of my depression and anxiety, possible cause, etc., as it's far too long, too boring, and most import, specific to me as an individual.

I can tell you that after a few years, I was able to work through my personal issues and get off the drugs entirely. I can smoke pretty much anything I want, though I have to be mindful of the stronger Sativa strains and not over imbibe too fast. Take a toke or two, wait and see what happens.

Exercise and a regular routine as well as a healthy diet will help, but are not a cure all.

Herb isn't a cure all. It may help, it may exacerbate the problem. If you choose herb, use moderation.
 

herbalistRoots

Active member
Beyond the realm of ganja I'd like to make some suggestions for supplements that may offer you support. All though I don't know what type of negative side effects the SSRI's were presenting (Serotonin Syndrome is my guess) & with out knowing your health history these would be general anxiolytic suggestions. Amino acids: GABA, L-Theanine, L-Glycine, N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine, & L-Taurine. 5HTP (the precursor to Serotonin), Magnesium as magnesium taurinate and/or magnesium glycinate, B-complex, & Herbs: Piper methysticum (kava), Ocimum sanctum (Tulsi, holy basil), Withania somniferum (Ashwaganda), Hypericum perforatum (st. john's wort), Melissa officinalis (lemonbalm), Avena sativa (wild oats), & Zizyphus jujuba (Jujube). GABA which can bind to the benzodiazpine receptors in the brain will act similar to the lorazapam or other benzos without all the associated mental fog. It's important to take GABA as a sublingual so that it may have an easier time crossing the blood-brain barrier & being utilized. Kava can also bind to the same receptors in the brain. There are techniques to slowly ween your self off your meds while ramping up supplements to take their place. I'd suggest starting with GABA. If you'd like suggestions for brands to look for or products that have a combination of nutrients please let me know. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or want to understand more of the mechanisms of action or just to tailor it to your own needs. Practice breathing exercises daily. hope this helps :joint: peace

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LeeROI

Member
Aurora Indica works for me. No couch lock and minimal muddled brain--able to see lots of (positive) possibilities. If I'm actually tired I can take a 25 minute nap and wake up refreshed (I've never been a nap person).

Six plants from fem seed did, anyway. I'm about to grow some from reg seed to find a keeper.
 

smokditup

Member
Thanks for the replys everyone....

The reason for my stopping my SSRI drug is because of high sodium/potassium levels in my bloodstream. My ADH hormone (anti duretic) was affected which led me to drink massive amounts of water and not concentrate it. Had to goto hospital after a bad blood result. Now my results are fine after stopping SSRIS, the specialist believes it was caused by prozac. Seems to be quite rare.

I definatly do not believe sativa type strains are good for anxiety patients. What may work for one, may not work for another. But majority of people I have spoken to all also believe that indica dom for anxiety anyday and sativa can definatly induce panic..

I just dont like the feel of thinking too much. It can trigger me into panic at times. I do not believe there is a "root" of anxiety. Its just in general. Obsessive compulsive is what I also have. And I do worry about some abnormal things and (USED) to perform rituals.

Anxiety/ocd runs in my immediate family quite strongly and there definatly not enviromental factors.. Ive had many many years of CBT therapy. Counselling.

I am now exercising, eating good, and have quit the cigarettes 3 days ago. Now to just find a suitable indica for myself.
 

Manivelle

Member
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try some cbd crew strain . z7 critical cbd etc...
high cbd content strain is what you want.
and listen to all the previous post .

meditattion is good for what you are suffering. if you don't trust in it make some research about the david linch foundation.

peace
 

lost in a sea

Lifer
Veteran
the root of anxiety is negative thinking patterns caused by either physiological or psychological imbalances..

you have to attack the problem from all fronts.. personally to begin with i would advise good varied diet of plants and consuming the same herbs that have been used to correct this sort of problem for millenia like valerian which is the most consumed herb in europe, or gentian,borage,st johns wort, skullcap etc etc.. why people are so happy to alter their minds with ganja but not heal their bodies with its green brothers and sisters is beyond me..

these disorders(many of them in many cases imo are more often wrongly diagnosed autistic spectrum disorders) are not new, however the scale of them is a new thing but that phenomena is caused by the same "modern" lifestyle that the pharmaceutical corporations would also happily have you live which is why they refine one chemical from plants that frequently contain tens of thousands and give it to you in concentrations that kill your liver.. the body actually (counterintuitively) needs antagonistic chemicals to balance itself and therefore not remain dependant on that refined chemical which is why once people start supplimenting with things like prozac they have to stay on it, ie it wont heal you or cure the root of the problem.

also because "doctors" (in the west) are once again stumbling in the dark in our time due to the manner of our application of our current knowledge of biology, they can only see the end result and that is what they diagnose and prescribe to "cure" and not the cause, sometimes it works but way more often people end up on a cocktail of drugs for the rest of their lives just holding themselves together waiting like i already mentioned for their livers to pack in, and obviously living much lower standards of existence till that point than they should be anyway..

ganja is just one of thousands of plants that have been selectively bred by humans and other animals, without a doubt, for over a million years.
 
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Cool Moe

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Feel your pain bro, the anxiety sucks to live with no matter what the cause. One thing you might consider after finding the strain that works best for you is to try smoking the sugar trim leaf i/o the flowers. I've found that the cannibinoids that best help my anxiety are more in the leaf and less in the flower.
 
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OrganicOzarks

Thanks for the replys everyone....

The reason for my stopping my SSRI drug is because of high sodium/potassium levels in my bloodstream. My ADH hormone (anti duretic) was affected which led me to drink massive amounts of water and not concentrate it. Had to goto hospital after a bad blood result. Now my results are fine after stopping SSRIS, the specialist believes it was caused by prozac. Seems to be quite rare.

I definatly do not believe sativa type strains are good for anxiety patients. What may work for one, may not work for another. But majority of people I have spoken to all also believe that indica dom for anxiety anyday and sativa can definatly induce panic..

I just dont like the feel of thinking too much. It can trigger me into panic at times. I do not believe there is a "root" of anxiety. Its just in general. Obsessive compulsive is what I also have. And I do worry about some abnormal things and (USED) to perform rituals.

Anxiety/ocd runs in my immediate family quite strongly and there definatly not enviromental factors.. Ive had many many years of CBT therapy. Counselling.

I am now exercising, eating good, and have quit the cigarettes 3 days ago. Now to just find a suitable indica for myself.

I agree that everyone is different. There are also different kinds of anxiety. Mine is chemical based, and it is hereditary. Yours seems more like it is an emotional thing. Possibly something that has happened to you in the past that was not dealt with.

When you say you don't like the feeling of thinking to much it seems as though there are things that you do not want to think about.

My suggestion for using a sativa was based off of having a chemical imbalance, and not an emotional issues. It seems as though you want to switch from drugging with a pharmaceutical to using cannabis.

Would be much better for you, but those feelings that you don't want to think about will still be there.

You have to get to the root before this will get better.

Honestly if indeed there are things that need to be dealt with you could look into MDMA therapy. It can work fast, and get to the root with only a few treatments.

Then you can smoke the herb just because you want to smoke the herb. Not because you want to be drugged.

Although being drugged can be pretty fun sometimes.:)
 

smokditup

Member
MY OCD is like... 1. Is my mother going to be in a car accident? 2. That sudden pain I just had in m arm just then.. Am I having a heart attack or stroke? 3. Why Is my left hand tingling? Am I having a brain hemmorage?

I obsess and obsess to the point im physically EXHAUSTED!. I dont know why I am like this, I had a okay upbringing. I used to have this when i was 8 years old! I remember kissing my mother on the cheek 4 times before i was "happy" to goto school. If I did a half arsed "kiss" goodbye I then would repeat it until I was happy. I used to check powerpoints too! I would be so tired nearly falling asleep next to my computers powerpoint. This would last for an hour checking it 100 plus times. I had no idea why I was doing it.. It was driving me insane!!!.

So bassically.. I have anxiety. There is no specific "root" as to WHY I have it. There was no emotional distress that I had when I was younger to be still causing it...I have a roof over my head. Food to eat. A car to drive. A pet dog.. I must admit I am unemployed because of my symptoms but am soon to be studying to be on my boss so i can successfully work my life around it...
 
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OrganicOzarks

MY OCD is like... 1. Is my mother going to be in a car accident? 2. That sudden pain I just had in m arm just then.. Am I having a heart attack or stroke? 3. Why Is my left hand tingling? Am I having a brain hemmorage?

I obsess and obsess to the point im physically EXHAUSTED!. I dont know why I am like this, I had a okay upbringing. I used to have this when i was 8 years old! I remember kissing my mother on the cheek 4 times before i was "happy" to goto school. If I did a half arsed "kiss" goodbye I then would repeat it until I was happy. I used to check powerpoints too! I would be so tired nearly falling asleep next to my computers powerpoint. This would last for an hour checking it 100 plus times. I had no idea why I was doing it.. It was driving me insane!!!.

So bassically.. I have anxiety. There is no specific "root" as to WHY I have it. There was no emotional distress that I had when I was younger to be still causing it...I have a roof over my head. Food to eat. A car to drive. A pet dog.. I must admit I am unemployed because of my symptoms but am soon to be studying to be on my boss so i can successfully work my life around it...

So anxiety is not your problem then. OCD is your problem, and now I see why you don't like to be trapped in your thoughts.

I would suggest to not use cannabis then. Anxiety stemming from OCD is nothing like having just plain anxiety.

Remember though it is all in your head. I still would recommend MDMA treatment, ibogain treatment, or even a mild mushroom treatment. You have to go get up into your head, and explore. You say one thing, but your actions speak the truth.

I really would stay away from the cannabis if you have OCD. It is not going to help you out one bit.
 

WelderDan

Well-known member
Veteran
Thanks for the replys everyone....

The reason for my stopping my SSRI drug is because of high sodium/potassium levels in my bloodstream. My ADH hormone (anti duretic) was affected which led me to drink massive amounts of water and not concentrate it. Had to goto hospital after a bad blood result. Now my results are fine after stopping SSRIS, the specialist believes it was caused by prozac. Seems to be quite rare.

I definatly do not believe sativa type strains are good for anxiety patients. What may work for one, may not work for another. But majority of people I have spoken to all also believe that indica dom for anxiety anyday and sativa can definatly induce panic..

I just dont like the feel of thinking too much. It can trigger me into panic at times. I do not believe there is a "root" of anxiety. Its just in general. Obsessive compulsive is what I also have. And I do worry about some abnormal things and (USED) to perform rituals.

Anxiety/ocd runs in my immediate family quite strongly and there definatly not enviromental factors.. Ive had many many years of CBT therapy. Counselling.

I am now exercising, eating good, and have quit the cigarettes 3 days ago. Now to just find a suitable indica for myself.

You're on the right track I think. Cigs are stimulants, and I bet once you get them out of your system it will help. Exercise will help. I have bad insomnia (bet you do too!) and now that I have a much more physical job, I sleep a lot better. I had a high stress support job that made me buggy. Now I have a very physical job and sleep a lot better.

Good luck
 

b8man

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I'm currently on SSRIs for anxiety and it's doing a lot to keep my panic attacks in check. Usually I can control things with lots of exercise (LOTS!) and some nice weed, but in the winter I've found no strain of weed suitably helps, hence the meds. There are strains which can help you mitigate the symptoms of the panic attacks (appetite stimulants, heavy indicas for sleep etc) but nothing that gives real relief.

In the summer months though, strains I've found most effective are:

Apollo 11 - Daytime, mood brightener, non-racy, motivating
Flo - daytime, motivating, sleepy after a few hours
Point of no return - very calming, nice to relax with at the end of the day

Avoid hazes like the plague.

And good luck. Anxiety for no reason sucks.
 

waveguide

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bubblegum :D

you might like a high cbd strain perhaps.. or an auto (high cbd).

change other things as well.. not just what you toke. most western media is pumped full of "bad thoughts" to cause anxiety and fear.

hey, take a deep toke, and go outside, and watch the clouds and listen to the breeze. turn off all the tv and music and other entertainment you've been using.. that's where all those bad ideas are coming from.

good weed, you won't be bored :D
 

Hammerhead

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what ever you decide to do take the advice of your doctor over anyone here. If you want to try cannabis to control your Anxiety try high CBD strains. there are some that are very high.
 
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