Petitions circulating to SECEDE FROM UNION -- this is going viral (!)

[Jbonez]

Haha Jbonez I have taken the myers-briggs and I am indeed INTJ. Nailed it. I can't deny you that, even though it would be fun to imagine the wheel in your head turning while I smoke this j.

ah you mother fucker... I fuckin knew it!

Intuition, god its a beautiful thing..

ahem.. sorry, I get excited when I peg different types, especially other nt's...

 

[SpasticGramps]

Ok, Japan, Korea, OR Vietnam.

Ok. I understand that you may believe there was never a world or wars before the US, but as short as humans little blip on this planet has been there were wars before the US's hegemonic imperial rule.

Try to think outside the little American box for a second.

 

[unspoken]

You asked, I answered. We can go down the rabbit hole if you wish. Do I take the red pill or the blue one? We are talking about things that are relevant, right? A lot of shit has changed in the past 50 years.

 

[Jbonez]

devils advocate is an NT thing for sure.. LOVE IT, fuckin love it..

Founded the troll movement back 98, those were, better... times... *wipes single tear*

 

[Jbonez]

You asked, I answered. We can go down the rabbit hole if you wish. Do I take the red pill or the blue one? We are talking about things that are relevant, right? A lot of shit has changed in the past 50 years.

My heart just fluttered.

The rabitt hole... Lets fuckin do it.. I helped dig that mother fucker.

 

[SpasticGramps]

You asked, I answered. We can go down the rabbit hole if you wish. Do I take the red pill or the blue one? We are talking about things that are relevant, right? A lot of shit has changed in the past 50 years.

Beyond 50 years equals irrelevancy??

Anything outside of American's hegemony is irrelevant??

Anything outside of America's little box is a "rabbit hole"?

In some places in the world it's called history my friend.

Past events shape present tense and future events. Humans haven't evolved that much in 50 years bro.

Economics and geopolitics is older than 50 years and may be worth considering.

Just throwing that out there.

 

[unspoken]

Beyond 50 years equals irrelevancy??

Anything outside of American's hegemony is irrelevant??
Didn't say that

Anything outside of America's little box is a "rabbit hole"?
No, exploring it further is down the rabbit hole.

In some places in the world it's called history my friend.
Yes, I like history. My SO is a historian, I bug her constantly with questions, and I understand that history can also tell us the future.

Past events shape present tense and future events. Humans haven't evolved that much in 50 years bro.

Economics and geopolitics is older than 50 years and maybe worth considering.

That's what I like about Keynes. You see Keynes himself was VERY open to changing his mind about things, and he did. See what Hayek had to say about him after he died. If you study both theories, Keynes and hayek were really not that different. He was very critical of his students being too liberal with his ideas. Not huge into "fine tuning"

Just throwing that out there.
Noted.

.

 

[unspoken]

devils advocate is an NT thing for sure.. LOVE IT, fuckin love it..

Founded the troll movement back 98, those were, better... times... *wipes single tear*

Rustling Jimmies on netscape navigator.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Anything outside of American's hegemony is irrelevant??
Didn't say that

No, but considering America's hegemonic rule truly didn't start until after WWII you certainly implied it. I would say that a pretty explicit conclusion you reached, but that's just me. 50 years = relevancy right? Cause "shit's changed"?

"Shits Changed" I must have missed that chapter in the textbooks.

 

[unspoken]

No, but considering America's hegemonic rule truly didn't start until after WWII you certainly implied it. I would say that a pretty explicit conclusion you reached, but that's just me. 50 years = relevancy right? Cause "shit's changed"?

"Shits Changed" I must have missed that chapter in the textbooks.

Did you catch the chapter about the development of the global economy? Wait, Gramps...that probably wasn't in textbooks yet. See in 1967 amelia earhart invented the airplane, and in 1990 bob dole and strom thurmond invented the internet, and well after that the world changed. Just kidding, I just meant to keep that in mind as you lead this discussion forward to explore the idea you felt like we should explore.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Yep. I miss the NeTscape thing.

I'd like to shake your hand JBonez.

Stay Frosty.

 

[unspoken]

Yep. I miss the NeTscape thing.

I'd like to shake your hand JBonez.

Stay Frosty.

Me too JBonez, not yours though Gramps.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Me too JBonez, not yours though Gramps.

Well where is my fucking ball?

BTW. I'm only 31 years old. I haven't quite made it to the nursing home yet.

JBonez put me onto the INTP deal. Never really looked into it.

Quite interesting indeed.

 

[unspoken]

I was kidding. Pretty sure you got that. I'm intj, jbonez can explain that. I feel (there I go using that word again) like you do have a good working knowledge of macro issues, I just think you are making a couple assumptions along the way that are incorrect. I wish I would have studied more macro stuff but my specialized classes were more like business allocation, economics of sports, econ of environmental resources, and game theory.

 

[SpasticGramps]

This has been a fun conversation amigo. I'd love to smoke a bowl with all of you.

We all makes assumptions right? ASSes out of me and UMPTION.

Stay Frosty brother.

PS. Crown Royal Reserve and coke and fine simsella is yummy.

Getting up early for work tomorrow is going to be a bitch.

Glad Friday is a half day.

 

[Jbonez]

Well where is my fucking ball?

BTW. I'm only 31 years old. I haven't quite made it to the nursing home yet.

JBonez put me onto the INTP deal. Never really looked into it.

Quite interesting indeed.

Is it just NT's that keep vampirical hours? Ill get with yall tomorrow, had to run over to my boys spot real quick and his computer is piece... tootles..

Oh yeah, talk about maths, relativity, the human condition, whatever, we are already opposing personalities, well some of us, so make the debate productive lol..

Unspoken, gramps you two should not talk politics.. Religion we all pretty much agree on by default, but science is what tickles us, einstein shit, anything outside of our planet, dna, whatever keeps the bickering to a minimum, dig? Ill catch ya fuckers later..

we make up like 4% of population, its no coincidence we are here chatting, quantum attraction motherfucker..

 

[SpasticGramps]

and game theory.

Then you should like this,

The "Game Tree" Explains Why The "Risk Of An Ugly End Game Is Rising"

Virtually all developments in Europe over the past two years can be easily explained using a simple version of three actor game theory. So can the endless delays in reaching an actionable resolution. The problem, however, as Bill Gross earlier, and now Bank of America, shows, is that the incentive to delay, based at least on one the actors' preferences - that of the market - is becoming very tenuous, and "the risk of an ugly end game is rising." By implication, this means that the goodwill of both Europe's monetary and political authorities is waning by the day, as last Thursday demonstrated so very vividly.

Bank of America explains.

The game tree: In a simplified game involving three players – a peripheral country called “Grain,” the other EU economies, and the markets – and three possible outcomes – crisis averted, bailout or default by Grain. Our work explains why Europe has been muddling through for so long and why the risk of an ugly end game is rising. The sequence of decisions is as follows: first, Grain undertakes some austerity measures. The markets then deem these actions as credible in moving toward a sustainable fiscal path, or not. If not, pressure on Grainish debt builds to a breaking point and the core EU countries decide if they will bail out Grain or leave it to default. Keep in mind that by Grain we mean not only the Grainish government, but all of the internal players that dictate whether an austerity program works. Solving this game requires ranking the relative attractiveness of each outcome. Keep in mind the motives and perceptions of the players. These are politicians, not economists. A default by a Euro area member is the worst outcome for everyone because the ensuing recession would drive many incumbent politicians out of office. So we assumed that Grain would favor a bailout first, austerity second and default third; the EU would favor austerity first, bailout second and default third; and, for the markets, we assume speculative pressure dominates, so the market prefers default first, austerity second and bailout third.

Game theory is fun.

In the end, life is a game.

You play to win. If you lose, you get up, brush your shoulders off, figure out what went wrong, and try to win again.

Stay Frosty kids.

 

[unspoken]

PS. Crown Royal Reserve and coke and fine simsella is yummy.

Getting up early for work tomorrow is going to be a bitch.

Glad Friday is a half day.

Eagle Rare 10 year and a splash of water, but that's a discussion for another day.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Single Vineyard Kenneth Wright FTW, but def a discussion for another day.

 

[unspoken]

At this point I think you know how I feel about austerity during a bust.

"The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones."
John Maynard Keynes