Vertical Yield Reports

[chameleonsc]

Seems like vertical is all the rage these days..Shit I just flipped a 4 light stadium last week..Lots of folks doing lots of interesting things out there with vertical. I know this is pretty general, and a lot of searching could get me some answers, but I'm going to post a thread to, hopefully, build a more comprehensive data set of what people are pulling with their vertical bulbs...

Setup:
Lights:
CO2:
Medium and container size:
Strain:
Plant Count:
Yield:
Potential Yield w/ dialed room:

I figure that might be a good place to start, and hope y'all will chime in some results..I'll be able to post up just after the new year...But, I'm thinking 2-2.5lbs/1000w might not be as hard to reach going vert vs horizontal..

 

[otis33]

First grow ever was an eight plant doughnut, 1000wt, pineapple express in 1.5 gallon air pots/coco, 26Oz manicured bud, and a ton of larf. Second grow: same strain medium and container 16 plant coliseum, 8 on top shelf 8 on bottom, 1000wt on top 600wt on bottom. 43Oz dry manicured, much lessees larf due to pruning the back half of the plants and better training

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

im also very curious. I like to have a target to aim for

 

[tommy_greens]

Had an old room back in the day with 12kw. I had about a year to dial it in, after a couple runs I had it pulling 25#. CO2 was 1500-1800, 3 tiered stadium 15 plants per light in 2 gals. The key was the pruning, I cut all the back branches and all the lower parts of the bottom row plus anything that was not getting direct light. Then I would make a wall of weed down the rows by sticking all the arms back with bamboo stakes. I would starve them in veg, wet/dry cycles then increase the feeding frequency to pump up metabolism. By week 4 of bud was feeding every day and by week 6 they were drinking like crazy.

 

[Airnut]

Setup: Squareform Heath R. tube look a like system. But with intervals on the waterpump (2on-5off) and no dam.
Lights: 600W
CO2: No
Medium and container size: 2" netpots with leca.
Strain: Sensi Star x Skunk no 1
Plant Count: 78
Yield: 526,2 dry gram, 2241,7 wet at harvest - 0.877 gpw
893,5 wet grams of scrag - 223,2 wet grams of trim from buds only.
Potential Yield w/ dialed room: Fully dialed - maybe 1.4-1.6 gpw with that strain to be fair and honest.

Cuts normaly made first root in about 9-10 days. After 20 most cuts had made multiple roots.
And after about 30 days the majority had made long enough roots to ensure a save transplant to the system. In this las 10 day periode i raised the weak clonelight so high, the plants didnt even stretch but still where developing roots.
Ran the strain straight from that 30 day periode, direct to flower giving it 60 days of 12/12
(actully i save one hour a day running 11/13.)
Total time from cutting the motherplant into cuts until cutdown at harvest: 90 days.

Fertz: GHE Flora 3 part. GHE Bioroots used to cut.
EC: 0.8-1.2
PH: DIY automatic set at 5.8 (fluctuates within 5.5-6.1)

 

[megayields]

I'm gunna keep this short (cuz I'm lazy) check my thread in the Vert section if you want granular details;

When I went Vertical from horizontal my FIRST harvest DOUBLED my yields...I went from 1.5 lbs with 2K wattage to 3 lbs........but it is not as simple as all that......

 

[vein5]

Yeah theres alot of training to do vertically, scrog style. I
1g/watt is what i get, shooting for 1.5g/watt this one.

 

[Mr Celsius]

Theres GPW and then theres putting out weight. If you want to be commercial, just shoot for 1per light and do a lot of lights. K.I.S.S.

If you're a smallfry and looking for head or small loot then ya, vertical is great. I mean, I know guys that get good results off of flat or vert, they just give a shit and put a lot of time into their grow rooms. Vertical isn't going to magically increase yields, you still have to put the work in.

 

[DaveTheNewbie]

Theres GPW and then theres putting out weight. If you want to be commercial, just shoot for 1per light and do a lot of lights. K.I.S.S.

If you're a smallfry and looking for head or small loot then ya, vertical is great. I mean, I know guys that get good results off of flat or vert, they just give a shit and put a lot of time into their grow rooms. Vertical isn't going to magically increase yields, you still have to put the work in.

not sure your right here. Commercial people were using lights hung the wrong way round with no reflectors long before i had herd of vert. i figured they were lazy cheap arses not buying reflectors. But they got results.

 

[TGT]

I use 4 1000 watt HPS with plants in 3 gallon, sometimes 5 (depending on strain and size of plants) in Promix BX. Usually I have six plants donut/vertical style around each 1000 watt bulb hung a little higher than some as I use the slight slant of the bulb to my advantage and also prop up some of the plants on blocks to utilize the light most efficiently. With tree style I find it best to attach chicken wire to the ceiling with large staples so that the inevitable floppy cola syndrom can be easily managed and tied to something. Chicken wire sure beats hammering nails irratically all over the ceiling joists lol.

My strains I usually choose are good stretchers and fast growers which I find most suitable for tree grows using vertical hood less bulbs. Ak47 and my own strain I bred myself (which I am very proud of because it was my first try and it worked!) Lime Skunk are used most frequently lately. I do grow Bubba Kush and C99, but change things slightly to accommodate. My yields are usually 8 pounds for the 4 lights which I think is pretty respectable. In addition to that I get aproxiimately a pound of tiny buds for the bin and a half pound of trim and some fans. That's how I have been doing lately for my vertical grows. There is much room for improvement, but things are going well so when I get more time and ambition I will up the bar. My goal is three pounds per thousand, but that seems far off and I don't believe is impossible for me.

Sorry for the novel, the C99 always makes me chatty. Thanks.

TGT

 

[DHF]

I use 4 1000 watt HPS with plants in 3 gallon, sometimes 5 (depending on strain and size of plants) in Promix BX. Usually I have six plants donut/vertical style around each 1000 watt bulb hung a little higher than some as I use the slight slant of the bulb to my advantage and also prop up some of the plants on blocks to utilize the light most efficiently. With tree style I find it best to attach chicken wire to the ceiling with large staples so that the inevitable floppy cola syndrom can be easily managed and tied to something. Chicken wire sure beats hammering nails irratically all over the ceiling joists lol.

My strains I usually choose are good stretchers and fast growers which I find most suitable for tree grows using vertical hood less bulbs. Ak47 and my own strain I bred myself (which I am very proud of because it was my first try and it worked!) Lime Skunk are used most frequently lately. I do grow Bubba Kush and C99, but change things slightly to accommodate. My yields are usually 8 pounds for the 4 lights which I think is pretty respectable. In addition to that I get aproxiimately a pound of tiny buds for the bin and a half pound of trim and some fans. That's how I have been doing lately for my vertical grows. There is much room for improvement, but things are going well so when I get more time and ambition I will up the bar. My goal is three pounds per thousand, but that seems far off and I don't believe is impossible for me.

Sorry for the novel, the C99 always makes me chatty. Thanks.

TGT

Respect TGT.......Chickenwire is your friend with bigger plants to open up the "innards" of the plants , allow more airflow and lumen penetration/absorption as well as........

The grower to identify and prune sucker branches on dominant lateral limbs for full plant energy expended on growin nugs instead of larf/flarfy popcorn hangin up off the main limbs.........and.....

Once dialed , keepin them heavy bitches from snappin under their own weight........so......the moral to the story is.......

Vertical yields are subjective at best , but highly able to get on up there once all ducks are in a row with bare bulbs blastin sideways..........anyways......

Holler if I can help.......

Peace.....DHF.................

 

[eastbay jpl]

I just pulled down 7lb 1oz with 4 light vert 70 plants in coco GH 6/9.
Co2 at 900 room temp at 78 hum at 45 to 55 light on and 64 to 70 light off.
Plant in 3 gl smartpots. Koolbloom at week 2 and 4 at 3 gm with 6/9 one time feeding

 

[DHF]

I just pulled down 7lb 1oz with 4 light vert 70 plants in coco GH 6/9.
Co2 at 900 room temp at 78 hum at 45 to 55 light on and 64 to 70 light off.
Plant in 3 gl smartpots. Koolbloom at week 2 and 4 at 3 gm with 6/9 one time feeding

If yas can reverse the RH to 65-70% lights on till end of stretch and 45-55% lights off till end of cycle it`ll make yas happy.......and ....

Awesome job Bro.......Respect.......and....

Peace.......DHF............

 

[eastbay jpl]

I do run the RH at 60-70 till the end of stretch from the tip you gave me some time back.
I put in a fan to help with the RH when the light go out and to pull out the C02. Thank for the tip with the C02 at 900 ppm you are wright about that thats all they need. So Im about run OG do you have some tips for OG it is the SFV cut. Thanks for all your help DHF your the man.

 

[DHF]

I do run the RH at 60-70 till the end of stretch from the tip you gave me some time back.
I put in a fan to help with the RH when the light go out and to pull out the C02. Thank for the tip with the C02 at 900 ppm you are wright about that thats all they need. So Im about run OG do you have some tips for OG it is the SFV cut. Thanks for all your help DHF your the man.

I just tryta help Bro.........

Glad what I preach has helped yas get further on the path to Nirvana..........

Peace...DHF.............

 

[shiftnopistons]

Starve them in veg so they wouldn't grow as tall?

 

[moritzst]

1,3 is my old record mark i did once in a 4800 flat, last run i got 1,2 on 2*600 in my vert chamber, maybe i can top this, 2,5 seems possible if u got full 360 deg and perfect conditions. maybe u know that vid yet...fuck cant find it anymore, nooooo, nebula in omegagarden, anybody has it, please noooo internet eatn up things
greez

 

[moritzst]

isnt pruning and defoliation a little rude, mean the plant doesnt invest energy in shoots that got no light anyway, maybe even regaining it from them by itself, fan leafs are the main source of energy, wouldnt take them away. but depends on the setting i suppose.

 

[coldcanna]

isnt pruning and defoliation a little rude, mean the plant doesnt invest energy in shoots that got no light anyway, maybe even regaining it from them by itself, fan leafs are the main source of energy, wouldnt take them away. but depends on the setting i suppose.

You ever notice on a plant that wasn't manicured you get the larfy airy un-sellable buds at the bottoms of your branches, and that the bottom part of the plant doesn't produce anything worthwhile. My personal rule is that the bottom third of each branch and of the plant itself has to go, along with any branches that are smaller than about 1/4" going into flip time. I learned this first hand on my first couple grows when i stacked up oz's upon oz's of would-be nugs that had to become oil.... money right out the window

 

[mojave green]

You ever notice on a plant that wasn't manicured you get the larfy airy un-sellable buds at the bottoms of your branches, and that the bottom part of the plant doesn't produce anything worthwhile.

um....no.