Breaking News: Dutch Cabinet plans strict coffeeshop policy!

[Gastro]

In Eindhoven they have now got so many streetdealers that mayor has stated that is allowed to register once self without a summary of the council archives.

And in Maastricht all coffeeshops are closed until the preliminary injunction of the Easy Going. The mayor had already spoken words of warning to the coffeeshops if they wouldn't open up, fearing chaos in the city.

As far the pass seems to be working out

 

[DIDM]

I should start a marijuana tour service on the west coast. You can visit medical gardens and do different tastings.

Add to it food and lodging and you could make places all up and down the I-5 corridor

BTW, this is free for any of you to start already

 

[rajen]

Yesterday, I was listening to arrow jazz fm (a Amsterdam Jazz radio station).
I think I understood, that the "wiet pass" won´t be implimented in Amsterdam, but I´m not sure about what I understood, because my dutch is not sooo good.
Can anyone confirm?

cheers
rajen

 

[spliffdiddy]

I cant wait to see how much tourism is effected by this rediculous law. Hopefully they will lose so much tourism dollars they will repeal this BS and everything will be back to normal in the Netherlands. Oh yea, hopefully all of the dumbass politicians that started this shit to begin with, will all be voted out of office, for decades to come. Because they obviously do not have the majorities interest at heart, they're only interested in what they want.

 

[mr.brunch]

Yesterday, I was listening to arrow jazz fm (a Amsterdam Jazz radio station).
I think I understood, that the "wiet pass" won´t be implimented in Amsterdam, but I´m not sure about what I understood, because my dutch is not sooo good.
Can anyone confirm?

cheers
rajen

hmmm.....interesting any news on this one?

 

[lost in a sea]

the people making the laws seriously dont give two shits about tourism money or any effect on the "businesses" or anything like that and if you look at the history of things like this in modern times especially in europe once the laws are made they are very rarely changed back the other way.. holland is a bit of an exception but not enough i dont think anyway..

everything i have heard is that amsterdam is just the last area to be hit.

 

[The Boys]

im both surprized and dissapointed with that countries government .

 

[gingerale]

I'm happy as can be. They just shot themselves in the foot big time. If things continue as they are, Cali or Colorado will be the new pot capital of the world, while Amsterdam will fade away as a footnote in history.

the people making the laws seriously dont give two shits about tourism money or any effect on the "businesses" or anything like that

No, short sighted people usually don't care about such things. This is why they fail.

 

[la mia pianta]

hello im Alessandro

hello im Alessandro

Hello everyone I'm new .... I just wanted to say that I do not think it is right to the wealth of amsterdam coffee shops are like churches and much more .. I've been there once .. and shortly precisely on November 21 there riandro I just as I was lucky to book hope that things will not change ... bye I love amsterdam

 

[Harry Gypsna]

I'm happy as can be. They just shot themselves in the foot big time. If things continue as they are, Cali or Colorado will be the new pot capital of the world, while Amsterdam will fade away as a footnote in history.

Half of the people who go to Amsterdam regularly for the dope have drug convictions and could not get a US visa... It is more likely that Czech or Spain if it gets the balls to actually legalize would become a centre. People are already going to Czech for smoke holidays.
Most visitors to Amsterdam are other Europeans-except in November, there's a big difference between a 1 hour flight or train journey and a transatlantic flight. Plus with your TSA and various security, and the treatment dished out to travellers by them, a large chunk of the ones without drug convictions would be put off.

 

[Bud buster]

Portugal also legalized marijuana.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

Portugal also legalized marijuana.

Decriminalized not legalized, trade is still an imprisonable offense. If you keep your head down and don't take the piss you will be left alone with plants in your garden, but if you piss any of the local authorities off you will get done. Also, if you are caught with a personal amount in the street, you have to go to drug counselling.

 

[Bud buster]

Decriminalized not legalized, trade is still an imprisonable offense. If you keep your head down and don't take the piss you will be left alone with plants in your garden, but if you piss any of the local authorities off you will get done. Also, if you are caught with a personal amount in the street, you have to go to drug counselling.

Your right it's decriminalized but you don't have to take counseling just appear in front of a board and can refuse with no penalty as long as you had less than a 10 day supply of 25 grams or 5 grams hash but all drugs are decriminalized and the usage has gone down for all the hard stuff along with deaths and hiv infections by a fair bit.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1893946,00.html

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=portugal-drug-decriminalization

 

[gingerale]

Half of the people who go to Amsterdam regularly for the dope have drug convictions and could not get a US visa... It is more likely that Czech or Spain if it gets the balls to actually legalize would become a centre. People are already going to Czech for smoke holidays.
Most visitors to Amsterdam are other Europeans-except in November, there's a big difference between a 1 hour flight or train journey and a transatlantic flight. Plus with your TSA and various security, and the treatment dished out to travellers by them, a large chunk of the ones without drug convictions would be put off.

That's true, but I'm looking 5-10 years ahead into the future and seeing where the trends are taking us. The police state is not going to last forever; the TSA et al are extremely unpopular and the growth of government is unsustainable. The end of Prohibition is a small part of the huge changes that are taking place in our society and the government. America will soon either reinvent itself voluntarily, or destroy itself and then be forced to reinvent itself. Either way, the existing system cannot stand.

It looks likely either Colorado or Washington will legalize this year, which will give the U.S. a head start and position us well to dominate the hemp industry. Other countries like Spain etc might be competitive in some ways but they don't have near the advantages the U.S. enjoys in population numbers and diversity, arable land, cultural influence, etc. I agree that Czech has a lot going for it, some really smart guys and particularly some good engineering and creative thinking coming out of that part of the world. They seem to kinda keep to themselves and do their own thing though. I bet there will end up being some notable companies there who build high end growing equipment etc when it's legal in Europe.

 

[rajen]

news from yesterday. There will be no wietpass in the netherlands.....but, if you want to go to a coffeshop you have either to show a bill of allowing you to stay in the nl, or a dutch passport. as this is illegal and against the dutch constitution, it wil be discussed again. Another fact is that it's possible for communities to set up own regulations. So for sure Amsterdam won't apply those regulations and blowers from all over the world are welcome in the xxx town. (Amsterdam).
So the question is still open, if you like the newest news go here (the site is in german, but maybe you can manage with google translator ):
www.nowietpas.de

cheers to all
rajen

 

[The Boys]

i think its just a matter of time before some country legalizes,i just hope manny others do as well and that it happens soon,in my country the only age group that doesnt want weed at least decriminalized is the the group above 65years old.

 

[mr.brunch]

news from yesterday. There will be no wietpass in the netherlands.....but, if you want to go to a coffeshop you have either to show a bill of allowing you to stay in the nl, or a dutch passport. as this is illegal and against the dutch constitution, it wil be discussed again. Another fact is that it's possible for communities to set up own regulations. So for sure Amsterdam won't apply those regulations and blowers from all over the world are welcome in the xxx town. (Amsterdam).
So the question is still open, if you like the newest news go here (the site is in german, but maybe you can manage with google translator ):
www.nowietpas.de

cheers to all
rajen

thank you for this update.... lets hope all progresses well for us.
after all, most of us tokers are not disruptive 'drug tourists', but rather people who enjoy a nice social smoke with others from a variety of countries and cultures.
this has always been, imo, one of the best things about the coffeeshops in the dam... on my first trip i found myself in the grey area cs , talking to a guy from the states, a guy from germany one from the north of england and a couple from france!! not many places that you can have a smoke and a laugh with people from such a varied background.
absolutely beautiful.
we need more of that in this world,not less.

 

[mr.brunch]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=248585

 

[rajen]

I'm in amsterdam right now, and saw a lot of signs in the coffeshops and their windows saying'no wietpas, tourists welcome'.
It's up to the local authorities if they apply or not, so amsterdam would never ever apply such nonsense.
Hope this is good news for everyone.
Don't be irritated by the high times cup flyers saying 'due to the strict laws and the wietpas from next year on, this will be the last hightimes cup in amsterdam'.
this was printed before they made their dcision to let the local authorities decide.

 

[rajen]

uups, sorry didn't read the other thread, saying the same, so take it as a confirmation