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Tobacco Lovers Thread

FirstTracks

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Just smoked through one of my early picked bottom leaves from my organically grown tobacco grown this summer. I didn't label the leaves or plants, so all I know is that it was a Virginia Gold or a burly variety.

The smoke was the smoothest I've ever had from tobacco. The only thing that touches it is well cured,organic herb. I also noticed very very little tar. I don't use filters on my hand rolled cigs, so usually, they brown up at the end where i'm gripping them. On the couple I've rolled so far of just pure tobacco, there's been maybe a hint of yellow from tar at the end.

It might help that the organic mix was light and the leaves were picked after they had a nice yellow color, aka, most of the nutrients all used up. The leaf I rolled had been air drying/curing ina covered, dry area outdoors in medium humidity for about 3 weeks at the time of smoking. I pulled it off the line, cut/ripped it up, and rolled it in. It's recommended to cure for 3 month-years and years, but this stuff was smooth and good.

Tried some in a spliff, as that's one way I like to get good, and the tobacco lightened up the mix nicely as usual, but was barely noticeable in the taste, which was great.

Also noted that a pinner sized hand rolled cig of this stuff gave me a buzz that was about twice as long, had a little more ' happy' effect, instead of the normal 'complacent' effect, and maybe 905 the strength of a full sized hand rolled cig of commercial rolling tobacco. The organic stuff also burns noticeably cooler than the commercial stuff. Don't know if this is from chemical additives, curing process, or just tobacco mix of the commercial ones, but its very nice.

This is me telling anyone who smokes cigs, Grow some Tobacco! It's very easy. The small seeds seem like they'd be tough to start, but you'll be thinning out all the extras before you know what happened. just keep it a nice basic organic mix, don't try to push any of the plants nutrient wise, and wait til the leaves yellow out (some, not all varieties) pretty well before picking. you'll be so much happier with the product, and i bet you, your lungs will thank you.
 

supermanlives

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never grown tobacco. wanted too one time but was told by local aggie rep i would have to pay the man to do it. the tobacco planter got used for other things lol.when i get my rooftop garden done i will look into seeds.
 

FirstTracks

natural medicator
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The laws have really shifted in the last 10 or 15 years. Most states even allow sales without licence if you keep the income below a certain number and sell only whole leaves, no cut up leaves.

Even if you don't want to smoke it, you can always use it as an organic pesticide, especially when combined with some cayenne peppers
 

sso

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i must say i was really surprised when i tasted my homegrown tobacco after a 2 year cure.


wow, smooth as fuck, nice taste, sorta nut flavour. (not a hint of harsh, and not tasting like any tobacco ive tried before.)

strong as fuck too.

ive never smoked anything bought like it.


forget the exact seed name, but it was some commercial brand mixed with orginal american tobacco.
 

mrcreosote

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This guy works nice for making your own cigarettes from pipe tobacco as cigarette cut tobacco is taxed in the US @ about $45 /lb. Built like a tank and makes a pack in 5 minutes.
http://www.smokersoutletonline.com/topomatic-t2-cigarette-machine.html
Best overall prices on tubes and tobacco as well.

These guys have bulk in small amounts to experiment with more exotic blends because you won't want a collection of expensive tins and bags of stuff you won't like sitting in a box like I have.

http://www.smokingpipes.com/tobacco/bulk/

Nice little stocking stuffer for your fellow herbalists on the go. The hard cases have a neat little zipper section for a mini bic lighter and a bit of stash. These get far more compliments than the small price implies. Hand carved and handy as hell, plus they look better as they yellow with age, whats not to love?
(don't soak in alcohol to clean, use a damp pipe cleaner,but you knew that anyway :))

http://www.royalmeerschaumpipes.com/Mini-Hand-Carved-Claw-Meerschaum-Pipe-Hard-Case-p/ms109c.htm

Just a few finds that I think work well. Hope somebody can use them.
 

nerd4life

Member
Strange as it sound i use pipe tobacco in ryo cigarettes. When i smoke weed on my campus i usually lace it with mentholated tobacco. love the taste and effects.
 

FirstTracks

natural medicator
Veteran
^used to roll my spliffs with menthol tobacco. guess I didn't realize there was non-menthol. I guess it might cover the smell of the herb more, but these days I just mix tobacco in to lighten up the mix and so my roach is all baccy and no herb.

SSO: Can't wait til this stuff is 2 years in (if it makes it that long). Bet that was some great stuff. Did you have it hanging the whole time or did you jar it up after a while? maybe even pressed a block of it and cured it that way?
 

señorsloth

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i don't like smoking all that leaf matter, i like to purify it down till it's just freebased nicotine and other carcinogens...
 

mrcreosote

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almost all the ciggie tobacco in the store i go to is labeled pipe tobacco. they know whats up

Yup,
These guys know their market.
A shag (fine slender) cigarette cut gets taxes at the outrageous cig rate while all ribbon cut gets taxed at pipe tobacco rate.
Just about all injector style MYO machines handle ribbon cut well and make perfect cigs with the additional benefit of a much slower burn.

If my 1lb. bag gets a bit dry I soak a broken terra cotta pot piece in water, let the surface dry and toss it in.
Highly unscientific but effective.
Works nicely on an accidentally left open mason jar as well.
Seems to take out the harsh dry weed taste and restore the flavor bloom. This *could* be an imaginary effect, but in any case, it works for me. :tumbleweed:
 

sso

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^used to roll my spliffs with menthol tobacco. guess I didn't realize there was non-menthol. I guess it might cover the smell of the herb more, but these days I just mix tobacco in to lighten up the mix and so my roach is all baccy and no herb.

SSO: Can't wait til this stuff is 2 years in (if it makes it that long). Bet that was some great stuff. Did you have it hanging the whole time or did you jar it up after a while? maybe even pressed a block of it and cured it that way?


it was just on a shelf in a closet for awhile. (mostly wooden closet, built into a wall.)

then maybe 6 months in a paper box (needed to stash the tobacco somewhere. :))

its pretty strong stuff, tastes nice too.

despite not having been cured in any specific matter.

this is the original tobacco plant, very strong,get almost high from it, i only toke it sometimes. what i have is probably gonna last 2 years at least.
looking forward to tasting it at the 4 year mark.


the leaves that got the best treatment, look the best, nice brown color to them. some of the other leaves are quite discolored.

(had them in a very small wooden cabinet for the first year, forgot that, got cramped from the getgo.)

right now i have another plant going, some mix between some american commercial strain and the original tobacco plant.

quite different leaves, thinner. took a long time to seed itself too. but have got literally thousands of seeds now.

took off most the leaves, then put it under a t5 (winter coming.) (its a t5 i use for the aquarium, its too large, the old light got bust. actually its the first time i have this particular plant under lamps, always just window light for it, still grew large, i think i did put it for a month under the hps though as a seedling, though that might have been the first plants i did, had nice summer last year.)

havent tested it yet, just spread the leaves on a shelf in the same closet.

(i did once smoke the orginal tobacco plant leaves (the 2 year old cure.) soon after i grew it, and damn, it was so harsh i didnt touch it again till this year, so smooth and lovely flavor and smell that i was really surprised.))

the commercialxelnaturel is actually a 2 year old plant, only spent this summer outside, used to be my livingroom houseplant, very decorative and beautiful plant, often remarked upon by visitors.

i think i would actually grow the tobacco even if i didnt smoke it, its my wife´s favorite houseplant and she dont even smoke.

i have it in a 30 liter container, 10 gallons i think or about so.

im gonna see how long i can make that plant last. lol :)
 

FirstTracks

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^^^ I heard tobacco is a nuisance to grow. how true is that?

Maybe if you haven't ever grown a plant. I direct sowed my seeds outdoors on top of some promix-bx/peat moss with some off the shelf organic ferts like gardentone, greensand and their mychorzi (sp?) mix at recommended rates per square foot. Had 90=% germination in a week, and plants grew super strong.

If I had started them on time, instead of at the beginning of July, all would have finished.

As it stands, i have a ton of tobacco leaf for pesticide for next year, if it doesn't mold, big if...and maybe a month or two's worth of smokeable tobacco with goldened out leaves.

First time growing it ever, no problems.
 
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