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SeaMaiden
I ask this question based on some unrelated reading I'm doing in a book called What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause. While the focus of this book is on the factors that lead to menopausal problems, how and why they're so strongly associated in Western women while they're not so strongly associated in other agrarian cultures, and that, of course, leads to a discussion of 'xenos'.
Xenobiotics, xenohormones, xeno-estrogens: xeno meaning "toxic". Many here are likely already well familiarized with the terminology and all that comes long with it.
But, what about organochlorides, created when chlorine (bleach) comes into contact with organic molecules? Many people are focused on the organochloride group of pesticides, but they could be the least of our problems when it comes to organic cultivation and remaining as healthy as possible. Once the Cl reacts with an organic molecule it becomes endocrine disruptor at that point, as I'm understanding what I'm reading.
My question then comes from this; IF we (in Western society) are experiencing the results of living in a toxic soup of hormone imitators and endocrine disruptors, and IF we desire to reduce or eliminate as many sources of the soup as possible, THEN do we organic cultivators not have a duty to not use the products that lead to these issues?
My answer is yes. To that end, I question the wisdom of constantly trotting out bleach as the answer for every organic cleaning question. I will also question the wisdom of isopropyl alcohol at this time, again based on my reading.
Unfortunately, at that point, I'm not sure what direction is best. I'm well familiar with the family of quaternary ammonium compounds and their utility in an organic cultivation scenario. They also seem to be linked to chloride compounds.
Another unfortunate situation is that isopropyl alcohol may be one of the esthers that may also be associated with hormone imbalance, and so without more research I can't state that it's a better option, or even if it should be an option, for this type of use. What makes this unfortunate is that, as has been relayed to me by my last surgeon, isopropyl is pretty much the best sterilizer you can use, as far as chemical means go.
I feel this is a salient discussion because hormone imbalance affects anyone at any age, and the more I've been reading the more that I see that I was basically setting myself up for failure at this point in my life. I'm hitting a brick wall with my doctor(s), and so am, as so many cannabis users are, forced to find my own path and resolution.
I also feel it's important because summer is upon us and we outdoor organic cultivators will be having issues to deal with, sooner or later.
So! I'm in for an education by the scientists. If I've gotten something wrong, please correct. Also, looking for good answers to the problem. We all have equipment and surfaces that need cleaning and possibly disinfection, what's truly the best substance or product to use?
Xenobiotics, xenohormones, xeno-estrogens: xeno meaning "toxic". Many here are likely already well familiarized with the terminology and all that comes long with it.
But, what about organochlorides, created when chlorine (bleach) comes into contact with organic molecules? Many people are focused on the organochloride group of pesticides, but they could be the least of our problems when it comes to organic cultivation and remaining as healthy as possible. Once the Cl reacts with an organic molecule it becomes endocrine disruptor at that point, as I'm understanding what I'm reading.
My question then comes from this; IF we (in Western society) are experiencing the results of living in a toxic soup of hormone imitators and endocrine disruptors, and IF we desire to reduce or eliminate as many sources of the soup as possible, THEN do we organic cultivators not have a duty to not use the products that lead to these issues?
My answer is yes. To that end, I question the wisdom of constantly trotting out bleach as the answer for every organic cleaning question. I will also question the wisdom of isopropyl alcohol at this time, again based on my reading.
Unfortunately, at that point, I'm not sure what direction is best. I'm well familiar with the family of quaternary ammonium compounds and their utility in an organic cultivation scenario. They also seem to be linked to chloride compounds.
Another unfortunate situation is that isopropyl alcohol may be one of the esthers that may also be associated with hormone imbalance, and so without more research I can't state that it's a better option, or even if it should be an option, for this type of use. What makes this unfortunate is that, as has been relayed to me by my last surgeon, isopropyl is pretty much the best sterilizer you can use, as far as chemical means go.
I feel this is a salient discussion because hormone imbalance affects anyone at any age, and the more I've been reading the more that I see that I was basically setting myself up for failure at this point in my life. I'm hitting a brick wall with my doctor(s), and so am, as so many cannabis users are, forced to find my own path and resolution.
I also feel it's important because summer is upon us and we outdoor organic cultivators will be having issues to deal with, sooner or later.
So! I'm in for an education by the scientists. If I've gotten something wrong, please correct. Also, looking for good answers to the problem. We all have equipment and surfaces that need cleaning and possibly disinfection, what's truly the best substance or product to use?
