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my phosphoload is 5 years old can i still use it?

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TREE KING

a half oz off a 3 ft plant lol your a jack ass. last crop i pulled 5 oz on 1 plant that was only a foot taller from the same pheno. anyway im done talkin to you hater
 
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TribalSeeds

Youre a fool. Those plants wont hold any bud at all.
Pics or it didnt happen
 
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TribalSeeds

Youre right! I only come here for Tree's threads!
You cant make this shit up! 5 oz from a plant without 5 useable budsites?
LOL! Those plants wont yield 5oz put together!
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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i can already tell im gonna destroy a gram per watt this crop

you dont do stuff like that with no veg time.

i pulled 5 oz on 1 plant that was only a foot taller from the same pheno.


man i have you on my friend list so im definately not a hater but there are some things which clearly dont make sense.
firstly its quite an assumption that you will ''destroy'' a gram per watt just by this early stage. its good to be positive and all but still quite premature.

secondly wether you have no veg time or not you can still lst or scrog or whatever you need to do. i dont know where you got that idea but you can maniupulate these plants at most stages of veg or flower.

lastly there are lots of tall stories, tales and what not if your gonna make bold claims of yield be prepeared to post pics or like tribal said it didnt happen.

my opinion to you would be to bend all of them over. they obviously have not stopped stretching yet, and your gonna be fucked pretty soon. apart from topping them or moving them onto the floor, thats the only thing i would suggest.
 
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TribalSeeds

Hey Twig Jester! Arent you the one who "needed" phosphoload to keep your plants from stretching?
You see those plants above yours in the AN thread? They are about 5-6oz each. Tell me how your twigs are going to hold 5oz with the two or three flower sites you have in the light?
If theres a more pathetic grow on ICMag please show me!
You think you need a tall plant to harvest buds? Once you finally make it through a grow you will notice that you dont want a tall plant with overhead lighting!
You might actually think your plants are healthy if you think thats what SOG is!
Plenty of potential floppies there! Carry on!
 
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TREE KING

man i have you on my friend list so im definately not a hater but there are some things which clearly dont make sense.
firstly its quite an assumption that you will ''destroy'' a gram per watt just by this early stage. its good to be positive and all but still quite premature.

secondly wether you have no veg time or not you can still lst or scrog or whatever you need to do. i dont know where you got that idea but you can maniupulate these plants at most stages of veg or flower.

lastly there are lots of tall stories, tales and what not if your gonna make bold claims of yield be prepeared to post pics or like tribal said it didnt happen.

my opinion to you would be to bend all of them over. they obviously have not stopped stretching yet, and your gonna be fucked pretty soon. apart from topping them or moving them onto the floor, thats the only thing i would suggest.

i made that statement because i just ran this strain and it yields more than any strain i ever ran before there fuckin monsters. all i would need is a little more than an oz per plant to get a gram per watt and that should be pretty easy with 3 ft plants. if you saw my last harvest you would understand. the only thing that could mess things up are the smaller plants in the middle that are different phenos. lets just say im pretty confident. you might want to check out the secret recipe threads on the connoisseur seeds forums though and see the strain i got its no joke in the yield department

how will i be fucked soon if im using phosphoload?

as far as lst or scrog i technically know its possible to do but the point i was tryin to make is that its usually done with bigger plants that were vegged. lets say you have 5 huge plants that were vegged for 3 weeks under 1000 watt light. doing that theres less plants and branches so its not that much work to do everything plus with plants that big its common to run out of vertical space. when your growing 30 plants in a 4 x 4 space its a huge amount of work plus plants are alot smaller so you usually dont run outta vertical space. you are right though it is possible
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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well i kinda see where your comming from but if you added a net or wire trellis at this point you could save on the hight issues. how far into flowering are you? and what size were your cuts if you flowered them right away?
 
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TREE KING

this is fuckin weird. its showing siftedunity posted at 7:49 but i dont see a post?
 
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TREE KING

well i kinda see where your comming from but if you added a net or wire trellis at this point you could save on the hight issues. how far into flowering are you? and what size were your cuts if you flowered them right away?

ok now i see it. a trellis cuts the height down? are you serious i never knew that i thought that was just to stop plants from tipping over. how high do i put the nets if i want 3 ft plants? i flowered these at like 3" with no veg time and there on day 17. just started with the phosphoload yesterday and since then the tallest plant only grew an inch last night. another plant i measured had no vertical growth last night
 

siftedunity

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a trellis will if you start weaving the tops down. ive got a raised table with about 4.5ft growing space above before they hit the light. when i flower i scrog the shit out of them. this leaves about 2 or three feet height to work with. that way i increase yield but using all of the lights foot print an i end up with a blanket of flowering tops. i hit a g per watt normally depending on strain. but for three inch cuts, they have stretched hell of a lot.
 
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TREE KING

a trellis will if you start weaving the tops down. ive got a raised table with about 4.5ft growing space above before they hit the light. when i flower i scrog the shit out of them. this leaves about 2 or three feet height to work with. that way i increase yield but using all of the lights foot print an i end up with a blanket of flowering tops. i hit a g per watt normally depending on strain. but for three inch cuts, they have stretched hell of a lot.

and i used a metal halide from day 1 lol. fuck i totally forgot about weaving the tops down if i remembered that i woulda used a trellis. this is good news cause now i can run these same plants in here again.

if i want 3 ft plants how high up the plants do i put the trellis?
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
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and i used a metal halide from day 1 lol. fuck i totally forgot about weaving the tops down if i remembered that i woulda used a trellis. this is good news cause now i can run these same plants in here again.

if i want 3 ft plants how high up the plants do i put the trellis?


tbh it dont make alot of difference which light you use. the only light ive had which reduces stretch in veg was the t5 i use. eitherway. arange some kind if trellis but cross crossing garden wire about 5 inches under the tops and gently fasten the tops underneath it, imagine you are doing a scrog. research scrogging techniques.
thats what id do. i have never used any chemical that stops stretch. but in the future if you have limited vertical space do not grow a stretchy strain unless you are prepeared to lst and scrog or even supercrop. in fact super croping them now might do the trick aswell.
 
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TREE KING

tbh it dont make alot of difference which light you use. the only light ive had which reduces stretch in veg was the t5 i use. eitherway. arange some kind if trellis but cross crossing garden wire about 5 inches under the tops and gently fasten the tops underneath it, imagine you are doing a scrog. research scrogging techniques.
thats what id do. i have never used any chemical that stops stretch. but in the future if you have limited vertical space do not grow a stretchy strain unless you are prepeared to lst and scrog or even supercrop. in fact super croping them now might do the trick aswell.

have you tried a sunmaster cool deluxe bulb? i noticed things stay more compact then a hortilux mh in veg. ok so all i want to do is use a net. you say setup the net 31" above the bottom of the plants if i want them 3 ft right? just wanna be clear
 

siftedunity

cant re Member
Veteran
set the net up which ever hight you want to keep them at. and no ive not used those bulbs i dont see the point in mh bulbs but thats my own preference.

i either use t5, cfl or hps. doesnt look like your metal halide kept these ones very compact mate. ive never seen any clone stretch from 3 inches to that tall in 17 days..
 

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