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Whats your GPW and Method?
- Thread starter Woozy
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.95 GPW. RDWC and CO2 between 600 and 900 PPM. Flowering rooms finished and chopped at 70 days.
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It depends if I'm growing trees or smaller plants. If I'm growing smaller plants with less veg time then I go with buckets. Bigger plants with more veg I use tubs. Can't have the roots clogging the pipes.
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Funny you said that! Its a cross with SPG x RKS.
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The seed stock was from the late 80s that my friend has been working with since then. This specific cross has no road kill smell at all. Smells of all pink grapefruit. Everyone who smokes it out my way loves it. The yield is amazing too and she branches out real nice with strong branching.
GPW is between about .7 or 1.5 lbs per 1k. Had bad runs and some bumper crops.
Just dismantled my DIY RDWC as it had gotten the rot. That'll be your biggest threat. I will be redesigning my system to incorporate a fast undercurrent. Most DIYs I've seen are top fed w 3/4" returns, which doesnt provide a high enough flow back to the res. And put too much on the top feed and she'll overflow buckets. Oh yeah, you'll need a chiller too.
My new design will be hard plumbed with 4" PVC returns and serious a external pump. Submersable pumps can heat up the res and deplete iron and you cant properly incorporate the undercurrent. I will be using large plastic tubs, probably around 15 gal, with netpots filled w hydroton.
But if you want simple and you want big plants. check out an ebb bucket system. A quality turnkey system will set ya back about 6 bills. Unless you know how to build a controller, a DIY will still cost a bit. Get the biggest buckets you can find, 5 gallon is ideal. This is a super simple system to set up and operate. Unlike RDWC you only have one hose to each bucket makin your tent much neater and easier to get around. And only the res needs an airstone. Biggest problem you may encounter is a pump for the return plugs and you'll get standing water in the buckets. So I put two pumps in the controller, which is where the return pump is. Also, not all manufacturers have = products so do some research.
Finally, I have couple hybrid/experimentals going. One that you may want to consider is this:
5 gallon buckets filled w hyroton, w small hole drilled in bottom. That sits in another 5 gal bucket w a 3/4" barb attached. Took OSB and covered w poly as a lid for the 4x4 res. I has about a 16"x16" hinged section for access. I have 4 of these buckets that sit on a 4x4 res, which around 16" high. I have a big pump that top feeds each bucket. The 3/4" poly returns simple drain right into res that they sit on. I have really fast flow from the large pump, which run continously. Its all gravity so the biggest issue is the head space. The shorter the res the better. Also, you dont need the buckets sitting on res, just the barbs and returns need to be at least as high as the res.
Just dismantled my DIY RDWC as it had gotten the rot. That'll be your biggest threat. I will be redesigning my system to incorporate a fast undercurrent. Most DIYs I've seen are top fed w 3/4" returns, which doesnt provide a high enough flow back to the res. And put too much on the top feed and she'll overflow buckets. Oh yeah, you'll need a chiller too.
My new design will be hard plumbed with 4" PVC returns and serious a external pump. Submersable pumps can heat up the res and deplete iron and you cant properly incorporate the undercurrent. I will be using large plastic tubs, probably around 15 gal, with netpots filled w hydroton.
But if you want simple and you want big plants. check out an ebb bucket system. A quality turnkey system will set ya back about 6 bills. Unless you know how to build a controller, a DIY will still cost a bit. Get the biggest buckets you can find, 5 gallon is ideal. This is a super simple system to set up and operate. Unlike RDWC you only have one hose to each bucket makin your tent much neater and easier to get around. And only the res needs an airstone. Biggest problem you may encounter is a pump for the return plugs and you'll get standing water in the buckets. So I put two pumps in the controller, which is where the return pump is. Also, not all manufacturers have = products so do some research.
Finally, I have couple hybrid/experimentals going. One that you may want to consider is this:
5 gallon buckets filled w hyroton, w small hole drilled in bottom. That sits in another 5 gal bucket w a 3/4" barb attached. Took OSB and covered w poly as a lid for the 4x4 res. I has about a 16"x16" hinged section for access. I have 4 of these buckets that sit on a 4x4 res, which around 16" high. I have a big pump that top feeds each bucket. The 3/4" poly returns simple drain right into res that they sit on. I have really fast flow from the large pump, which run continously. Its all gravity so the biggest issue is the head space. The shorter the res the better. Also, you dont need the buckets sitting on res, just the barbs and returns need to be at least as high as the res.
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I dont own a scale so I dont know
I vegged for a long time this time, so GPW doesnt mean anything
A better number would be Grams Per Work!
Coco is the easiest thing in the world.
Get yourself blumats and dont deal with runoff or screw with circulatng nutes and ph bs.
I only need to be in my room to fill the res and tie up branches from falling over
Peace
I vegged for a long time this time, so GPW doesnt mean anything
A better number would be Grams Per Work!
Coco is the easiest thing in the world.
Get yourself blumats and dont deal with runoff or screw with circulatng nutes and ph bs.
I only need to be in my room to fill the res and tie up branches from falling over
Peace
Thanks for the advice, money isn't an issue, but i cant order a UC system without compromising my anonymity, building something is better imo, cause tweaking and adjusting the system to my ever changing needs will be required. i'd like to see your system once its finished, I may borrow some ideas. stay safe.
@tribalseeds Ive had a few runs in coco, its really easy, but cleaning and recycling it is a pain. I like the idea of a mediumless grow, but only aero can provide that. Im not sure whether LP aero is even worth the headaches that may come from it.
Grams divided by wattage, and then divided by weeks from beginning to end. But really numbers don't mean much to me. I strive to not procrastinate and do things when they need to be done to keep my grow perpetual and use my time wisely, which rarely happens lol.
TGT
TGT
I like to always do better if i can. Numbers are a way for me to grade myself, as i only grow the same mothers, and use the same space, amount of light, with the same nute scedule. thanks for stopping by. a perpectual is what id like to have one day, harvest everyweek or so. intsead of harvesting and trimming for a couple of days.
I am really liking my 5 gal hydroton bucket system. I will give you complete details of how you can go from clone to finish really easily and I am seeing the same growth rates (or better) as RDWC. And w/o the complication or worry of root rot. You lose power for any length of time in RDWC and you're screwed. What I'm gonna go w is a simple gravity system with the buckets above the res. And a pump to top feed. No timer, and if you lose power you simply pour nute solution over the top by hand a couple times per day. My veg room will have the same bucket system on a table with it draining into res below. The flower will be stiiting on top my low profile res for added head room. Nice thing is both veg and flower set ups stay in place cause the buckets w hydroton are removable. And you can turn them etc...
I thought that was RDWC? I've been running the same type of system. I've had +5 hour power outages without problems.
I had an issue in RDWC when I lost power because the roots sat in non-oxygenated water since the air pump lost power. In most RDWC the buckets are not above the res and w/o some sort of water movement/air pump rot can set in pretty quick.
Now I have 5 gallon buckets full of hydroton, they sit in 5 gal buckets above the res. These are not net pots, the entire 5 gal is full of hydroton with holes drilled in bottom sitting in another 5 gal bucket w drain to res. Theyre top fed, so even if i lose power I can just pour solution over the top a couple times and it'll just drain back to res. I need only do that every few hours or so and they do just fine.
So far, I like this better than any other system I've tried. The only down side I anticipate is the 5 gals of hydroton per plant I'll have to clean.
Ohh so the hydroton bucket normally has water flowering through it, but not submerged in water, it sounds like. Cool setup. 5 gals of hydroton... I know your pain hehe, just from 6" net pots. How many plants per light? Horizontal or vertical? 600s or 1000s?
I'm a lazy unskilled grower and my setups have changed and changed without getting them dialed.... generally things have varied between .35-.8gpw in terms of 2 month cycle. My last was about 0.7gpw with a two plant 3000w vertical tree grow... very similar to the system Heath had in his tree grow thread. Now it's expanded to four plants same wattage... I'll try posting a grow diary if/when it's dialed in and worth posting about! (note: 600w 12sqft dedicated to veg)
With RDWC I'd recommend the same thing (though I haven't done this personally) during pump failure or power outage, as pouring water into the plant buckets will reciruclate the water while also oxygenating from the waterfall effect done manually.
4 plants per 1k, scrogg net is 5x5 built from 1/2" pvc. Used to drill holes every 4" and run string, now I buy netting zip tie and cut excess. This is a very simple system and great for all. Someone just posted about bate buckets, which is basically what I've built. Check it out. I think it may be a good fit
Ive got some back up batteries charged with a solar panels, power outages shouldn't be too bad, unless they last days. the only problem would be the light cycle screws up. i was thinking a four bucket UC with vert trees, 2800 watts, one 1000 watt in the center, and 1200 watts each side. once the environment is dialed in, yields should be amazing for a 4x8 tent.
