A new room

[Iffy-Caradoc]

Acoustic Solutions Ltd (UK) sell a heavy rubber & silverised layered material for motors (got some for my Land Rover) & it is amazing! It awful expensive if you want lots of it but if you use it only where you need it, it may be a solution.

 

[944s2]

Good point Roll it large, negative pressure is something we should all work on achieving. If your room is constantly 'suckin', it can't release any odours!

hiya,nice one iffy but if you have a very powerful fan,dont forget to turn it down espically last 2/3ks of bloom and when drying after harvest, after 12yrs i made a schoolboy error in my second run in new room by underestimating power of fan[10inch acoustic sorin,weighs a ton], my normally dank ice cream,stinky as fuck,etc dissapeared with its terpines straight through my can filter,never to return [slight return of smell when cured but very subtle],once its gone its not coming back imo,, so good luck,,,,peace and regards s2

 

[Iffy-Caradoc]

hiya,nice one iffy but if you have a very powerful fan,dont forget to turn it down espically last 2/3ks of bloom and when drying after harvest, after 12yrs i made a schoolboy error in my second run in new room by underestimating power of fan[10inch acoustic sorin,weighs a ton], my normally dank ice cream,stinky as fuck,etc dissapeared with its terpines straight through my can filter,never to return [slight return of smell when cured but very subtle],once its gone its not coming back imo,, so good luck,,,,peace and regards s2

Yeah, good point. Once gone - you ain't gettin it back!

 

[siftedunity]

I'm just saying that 98 plants over 2 m2 is a fast return. Unless you can't clone that many at a time.

You will get what you want if you get good root mass.

I know it's a lot of plants.

Its his first grow,, if you get him to do it properly and from the start.

He will go on to be a great grower because he will have to get involved and not just sit and get high. Looking at them.

When moving them about to get to water them he will get the feel for things and get the "BUG".

Tell him to watch his head as the light will be "Back N Forth"

The Ac is to cool the house not the grow room used minimal and needed in the summer with 2 600's regardless. With 50+ ounce you don't need to be a miser you wanna chill, in a cool house, and get Blasted when the jobs are done.

That's what I'm saying.

Using Ona mist, I cover all kinds of bad smells from visitors.

Sound proofing probably isn’t needed maybe just insulate the window with a board. Its coming into winter and a 600w is nothing to worry about when hand-watering.

You could just google sound proofing matting or boards they go from £12 a Metre up to whatever for the real good stuff.

I would probably use 2 lots of underlay or lino to go cheep and just be quiet in the room.

All the smell is gone with the fan set up I described.

No different than leakage coming from a tent at the end of the cycle.

Basic get him a watering can and some bags of Bio-biz.

Get him to just water with Maxibloom. K.I.S.S method

Cheep weed and the best Dope in town hand's down.

like said before man theres more than one way to skin a cat. to be honest you can easily get a gram per watt easy with 10 plants under a 600. you do not need 98 its just excessive.

plus you get caught and your gonna get locked up quick..police estimation of your grow will be £100,000 at least based just on plant count lol

theres no problem cloning 98 plants if you have big enough mothers to sustain this but 98 plants are capable of a huge yield. if you slap them in a sog at 6 inches high, most strains you would get fuckall per plant. id rather veg for a month and use 20 medium plants and get much more off each than 98.

id really love to see some pictures of your grows im not dissing you at all but i think it needs to be seen to be believed

tbh there are some fantastic growers online who yield good- better than most -heath,doubled, sonic etc etc. from what your posts say your pretty much the best grower on this site. maybe the best online...

 

[Mate Dave]

I'm not here trying to provoke an attack. I'm just saying that in my experience some cannabis plants produce more bud than they're cousins'n'sisters when given less direct sunlight.

It has been proven already that 'regular cannabis' requires roughly 12 hours dark to induce flowering. But not all Plants. Light schedule/sequence is another thing entirely.

Looking for a plant that produces more further from a light source that its neighbour is what You want to look for. This plant probably only needs 6-7 hours direct sunlight to do the business and has a better final yeild.

Just grow root-stocks of it and prune back hard until everywhere looks like it will 'kickoff'.

I have seen 1.2m2 tents grown with a 600w HPS 36 plants all wired with coat hangers and producing more than what you say above will come from 10.

I'd rather grow 36 but going bigger never hurts.

More than 1 way to skin a cat and get 2 gram per w like you just Said.

There are people doing a lot more.



How is the room panning out?

Have you had the roof sorted or decided on the partition wall?

 

[siftedunity]

I'm not here trying to provoke an attack. I'm just saying that in my experience some cannabis plants produce more bud than they're cousins'n'sisters when given less direct sunlight.

It has been proven already that 'regular cannabis' requires roughly 12 hours dark to induce flowering. But not all Plants. Light schedule/sequence is another thing entirely.

Looking for a plant that produces more further from a light source that its neighbour is what You want to look for. This plant probably only needs 6-7 hours direct sunlight to do the business and has a better final yeild.

Just grow root-stocks of it and prune back hard until everywhere looks like it will 'kickoff'.

I have seen 1.2m2 tents grown with a 600w HPS 36 plants all wired with coat hangers and producing more than what you say above will come from 10.

I'd rather grow 36 but going bigger never hurts.

More than 1 way to skin a cat and get 2 gram per w like you just Said.

There are people doing a lot more.



How is the room panning out?

Have you had the roof sorted or decided on the partition wall?

hmm if 36 plants are not out performing 10 in yields you would have to be doing something wrong. if i grew 36 id expect to get 2 or three oz each at least. but eitherway i dont care what techniques people use, its good that we all have our chosen methods. im just saying that i personally would not grow 98 plants for sea of green. yield is generally dependent on light you use not always plant number.

theres a guy in the hydro shop who thinks you should get 60 oz off a 1000w. he laughed at me because i got 30 oz with 8 plants.

 

[roll it large]

theres a guy in the hydro shop who thinks you should get 60 oz off a 1000w. he laughed at me because i got 30 oz with 8 plants.

another bullshitter mate 3.75 lbs there isnt even one grow on ic where they claim that per 1k( not even in the vert section from what ive looked at anyway) ive heard of 3lbs per k but no pics...that was joe schmoes cj

thread here

be honest who really gets 3lb per k?

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=246018


peace

 

[Avinash.miles]

^^
what he said

so harry u vented all ur exhaust air into a spare room, and it got so humid in there that u grew mold?
crazy
thats the problem w venting into another room... u still have to vent out of it. can u just go out a window?

 

[Guest 349079]

talking of yeild what could i expect with 600watts growing 9 plants in soil 6.5ltr pots ? say strain was ak47 i was wanting say 10oz

 

[siftedunity]

talking of yeild what could i expect with 600watts growing 9 plants in soil 6.5ltr pots ? say strain was ak47 i was wanting say 10oz

ive done a similar setup and got between 15 to 20 oz. cant remember the exact amount though. depends alot on your skills and enviroment. i think i had about 6 ak under the 600 and a couple of jtr.

 

[siftedunity]

i think alot of people will be afraid to admit some things about yield because of bravado or what not but i think even if you are using 1000w hps you are doing well to get 20+. some strains just do not produce that much. my last run was agent orange from seed, i got over 20 having not run it before. after weeding out the undisirable phenos and small yielders the next run will most likely be much higher. easily hit 30 with a couple more plants and the better phenos. so its all relative to what you are working with, knowing the needs of the strain etc.

ive got mixed feelings about sog. you see a room full of bud but each one (main cola) only being about 7g each dried. id rather use less pots and get bigger buds.

edit- have you seen the price of decent pots these days ? 98 would cost a fortune lol

 

[Guest 349079]

ive done a similar setup and got between 15 to 20 oz. cant remember the exact amount though. depends alot on your skills and enviroment. i think i had about 6 ak under the 600 and a couple of jtr.

hi i have 13 seeds under t5 light so i a hoping for at least 6 females
out of them i defos like the sound of agent orange thanks for the info

 

[siftedunity]

hi i have 13 seeds under t5 light so i a hoping for at least 6 females
out of them i defos like the sound of agent orange thanks for the info

ak47 is a massive yielder. cant go wrong with it, it takes a beating too if your new to growing.

 

[Harry Lime]

The place has been on hold for a while but I got there today and sorting the venilation out. It's going straight through the wall with a louvre vent outside. I took a walk around and saw loads of other houses around there have something similar so it's what we've got now.

Monday I'll buy the last few bits and pieces and hopefully have it finished later this week. Just as well cause I have thirty cuts vegging in 3" pots for it. They need to go into liter pots and I don't have the space for them at my gaff.

All being well, the best 24 cuts will be vegged there for another ten days or so in liter pots before going into 8 liters of coco and the 600s are fired up for 12/12

No pics. I forgot my camera but there'll be some next week.

 

[siftedunity]

The place has been on hold for a while but I got there today and sorting the venilation out. It's going straight through the wall with a louvre vent outside. I took a walk around and saw loads of other houses around there have something similar so it's what we've got now.

Monday I'll buy the last few bits and pieces and hopefully have it finished later this week. Just as well cause I have thirty cuts vegging in 3" pots for it. They need to go into liter pots and I don't have the space for them at my gaff.

All being well, the best 24 cuts will be vegged there for another ten days or so in liter pots before going into 8 liters of coco and the 600s are fired up for 12/12

No pics. I forgot my camera but there'll be some next week.

nice man . definately a good idea to check out other houses arounds so it looks normal. sounding good so far harry

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

The place has been on hold for a while but I got there today and sorting the venilation out. It's going straight through the wall with a louvre vent outside. I took a walk around and saw loads of other houses around there have something similar so it's what we've got now.

Monday I'll buy the last few bits and pieces and hopefully have it finished later this week. Just as well cause I have thirty cuts vegging in 3" pots for it. They need to go into liter pots and I don't have the space for them at my gaff.

All being well, the best 24 cuts will be vegged there for another ten days or so in liter pots before going into 8 liters of coco and the 600s are fired up for 12/12

No pics. I forgot my camera but there'll be some next week.

Nice one Harry

Did you have to put a hole in the wall yourself or was the vent already there?

Peace

 

[Harry Lime]

I did it myself, Piff, up a ladder with a 150mm masonry core drill.

 

[Harry Lime]

Better late than never. Here's a coupla pics of the finished room. They don't show much except how pretty it is. The owner took these and sent them to me. I'll get them to take a few more tomorrow.

So, there's the groovy acoustic fan with manual speed control and thermostatic over ride. A big old Rhino filter and a monster silencer. Initially they were set up with plastic couplers but some vibration passed through to the outside wall. So I replaced the couplers with some acoustic ducting. Seems that separating the fan from the silencer by just an inch instead of having them bang up against each other has done the trick.

On the floor there's some acoustic foam as recommended by Speed Demon (thanks mate!) covered with pond liner`. Then over that, in the 0.7 meters between the doors and the bed there's a piece of 9mm ply 'floating' so no vibrations carry from it to the walls.

I decided to go for a Danish tray for the pots to sit on. It rests on another piece of ply, 2mx1m which sits on a frame of 2"x4" timbers which in turn rest on four of those super strong buckets (the ones they stick a car on in the advert). These rest on some squares of ply to spread the load.
It's two inches higher at one end and has a drain hole at the other which is linked to a hose which will carry run off to a bucket.

There are two 600w bat wing reflectors over. Ballasts are outside.

It's been left with the lights and extraction on tonight to see what the temps get up to. On saturday (hopefully) I'll put in the passive intakes which will be some rain down pipe against each wall, one end outside, the other ends right to the edge of the tray.

The cuts have been in 1 liter pots for a week, desperate to go into the final pots and into 12/12 which (again hopefully) should be this weekend.

The room is silent with the doors closed, which was the main consideration here.

 

[Harry Lime]

Did I mention that the studding frame was assembled withe just a coupla screws into the wall leaving the timbers an inch or so away from the walls? The gap was filled with builders foam (after making a kinda mould with gaffer tape) then the screws were removed. The idea being that there are no hard fixings to carry any sound/vibration into the wall. It works well and is as robust as if fixings were used.

 

[Harry Lime]

Dug out some old records to listen to over there when I was working. I'd forgotten the best song ever written by a bloke about his cock. Now I can't get it out my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fehbLomIORM