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HOLY SHIT! Holy Anointing Oil from Exodus.

Hydro-Soil

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PS: Switch gods! My nicer God told me that life was meant to be lived with gusto and to help myself to the fruits of creation.

Now let's talk about a bacon, lettuce, and tomato sandwich..........
I've done waaaaaaaay too much research into history, symbolism and religion... I completely agree with you. LOL
TS is on my ignore list... but since you quoted their spewage...

FYI:

One God, two God.

One Sheep, two Sheep.

When people say "Oh, my God"... how many (and which ones) are they referring to?

Still amazes me that people so fiercely defend a politically influenced, reader's digest, condensed version of history... right down to specific wording of a translation of it. LOL

The restrictions in that time were the same as they are now... control of power. Organized religions are simply resource funnels... all of them. *shrug*

HAO made with 'calamus' (edit: whoops, that's Cassia.. not calamus) does nothing except be toxic in high doses. The medicinal properties of HAO made with cannabis make the thought of 'calamus' (Edit: Again, cassia) being the 'active ingredient ludicrous.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
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ZBeebs

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Translated from Aramaic calamus/kanabos - kineboisin = marijuana
Fuck Rome! They gave you Fragrance Cane

Show me where it lists those ingredients in the first post. It does not. It says Cassia, and that is what was replaced with cannabis. The link where the recipe comes from is dead.
 
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TribalSeeds

Just to be clear Im not relgious at all.
Im more into the history of it all
If you dont see that it is used to divide and rule us, then you have fallen for a con thats been going on since the dark ages!
What I found funny is that you agree and think "their people" are any different than yourself. What a shame. Youve fallen victim to Babylon
 
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Show me where it lists those ingredients in the first post. It does not. It says Cassia, and that is what was replaced with cannabis. The link where the recipe comes from is dead.

"There are a few different claims, but the most recent and weighty was allegedly from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1980. Even more suspicious is the ridiculous claim that a few people have found a NEW truth that theologians and translators have missed for thousands of years. Do you really believe that? If you do, I have some swamp land in Siberia I'd like to sell you.
Allegedly, in 1903, the British physician Dr. Creighton was the first to determine that several references to cannabis can be found in the Old Testament. Interestingly, no one can seem to document this claim. Then again in 1936, etymologist Sara Benetowa (of the Institute of Anthropological Sciences in Warsaw) allegedly discovered the connection between kaneh-bosem in the Old Testament, and the original Semitic Hebrew origins of the word cannabis. Again, where's the proof of these allegations? Anyone can say anything; but without proof, it is only conjecture at best.
I have a big problem with a few things here. First, are you going to believe a doctor and an etymologist over tens-of thousands of theologians and translators throughout history? Second, there are NO proofs of these claims. Third, there is absolutely nothing in the Bible which permits substance abuse. And fourthly...

The Hebrew University in Jerusalem is pro-homosexual."


Of course! Religious people are nuts, especially the ones in the church!
Do you trust Hebrew translation from dirty Babylonians trying to trick you, or educated Jews interested in history?



THE HIDDEN STORY

When we take a chronological look at biblical references to kaneh-bosm, we reveal more than just the story of cannabis in the Old Testament. Another exciting and concealed story emerges as well, that of the suppression of the worship of Astarte, also called Ashera, known to the ancient Semites as the Queen of Heaven.
The First Reference to Kaneh-Bosm
MOSES & MARIJUANA
The first mention of kaneh-bosm in the Old Testament appears with the prophet-shaman Moses. At the beginning of his shamanic career, Moses discovered the angel of the Lord in flames of fire from within a bush. It is later in his life however, that a definite reference to cannabis is made. Sula Benet explains this reference as follows: The sacred character of hemp in biblical times is evident from Exodus 30:22-33, where Moses was instructed by God to anoint the meeting tent and all its furnishings with specially prepared oil, containing hemp.
Anointing set sacred things apart from secular. The anointment of sacred objects was an ancient tradition in Israel: holy oil was not to be used for secular purposes...
Above all, the anointing oil was used for the installation rites of all Hebrew kings and priests.
This first reference to kaneh-bosm is the only that describes it as an ointment to be applied externally. However, anointing oils made with cannabis are indeed psychoactive and have been used by such seemingly diverse groups as 19th century occultists and medieval witches (4). Closer to Moses' own time, cannabis was used as a topical hallucinogen by the ancient worshippers of Asherah, the Queen of Heaven. Asherah has also been referred to as the Hebrew Goddess (5).
The shamanistic Ashera priestesses of pre-reformation Jerusalem mixed cannabis resins with those from myrrh, balsam, frankincense, and perfumes, and then anointed their skins with the mixture as well as burned it (6).
Then the Lord said to Moses, "take the following fine spices: 500 shekels of liquid myrrh, half as much of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels of kannabosm, 500 shekels of cassia - all according to the sanctuary shekel - and a hind of olive oil. Make these into make these into a sacred annoiting oil, a fragrant blend, the work of a perfumer. It will be the sacred annointing oil.
Then use it to anoint the tent of the meeting, the ark of the testimony, the table and all its articles, the lampstand and its accessories, the altar of incense, the altar of burnt offering and all its utensils, and the basin with its stand. You shall consecrate them so they will be most holy, and whatever touches them will be holy.
Anoint Aaron and his sons and consecrate them so they may serve me as preists. Say to the Israelites, "this is to be my sacred anointing oil for the generations to come. Do not pour it on men's bodies and do not make any oil with the same formula. It is sacred, and you are to consider it sacred. Whoever makes perfume like it and whoever puts it on anyone other than a priest must be cut off from his people." (Exodus 30:22-33)
EXODUS 30:22-33


The above Old testament passage makes the sacredness of this ointment quite clear. Moses and the Levite priesthood jealously guarded its use, and enforced this discriminatory prohibition with God's commandment that any transgressors be 'cut off from his people'. This law amounted to a death sentence in the ancient world.

The final Biblical reference to kaneh appears in Ezekiel 27, in a passage called A Lament for Tyre. The kingdom of Tyre had fallen into disfavor with Yahweh, and cannabis appears as just one of many of the wares received by Tyre, the merchant of peoples on many coasts.
Both of these passages refer obliquely back to the story of King Solomon. The mention of Sheba brings to mind Solomon's love affair with the Queen of Sheba, and the King of Tyre played a pivotal role in Solomon's building of the temple.
Danites and Greeks from Uzal bought your merchandise; they exchanged wrought iron, cassia and kaneh for your wares.

http://www.rxdirect2u.com/p-cannabis.htm



What did they find on Solomons grave? (parable)


COME WITH ME FROM LEBANON, MY BRIDE, COME WITH ME FROM LEBANON.
DESCEND FROM THE CREST OF AMANA, FROM THE TOP OF SENIR, THE SUMMIT OF HERMON. . .

HOW DELIGHTFUL IS YOUR LOVE, MY SISTER, MY BRIDE! HOW MUCH MORE PLEASING IS YOUR LOVE THAN WINE, AND THE FRAGRANCE OF YOUR OINTMENT THAN ANY SPICE!. . .

THE FRAGRANCE OF YOUR GARMENTS IS LIKE THAT OF LEBANON. . .

YOUR PLANTS ARE AN ORCHARD OF POMEGRANATES WITH CHOICE FRUITS, WITH HENNA AND NARD, NARD AND SAFFRON, KANEH AND CINNAMON, WITH EVERY KIND OF INCENSE TREE.

SONG OF SONGS 4:8-14
 
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I've done waaaaaaaay too much research into history, symbolism and religion... I completely agree with you. LOL
TS is on my ignore list... but since you quoted their spewage...

FYI:

One God, two God.

One Sheep, two Sheep.

When people say "Oh, my God"... how many (and which ones) are they referring to?

Still amazes me that people so fiercely defend a politically influenced, reader's digest, condensed version of history... right down to specific wording of a translation of it. LOL

The restrictions in that time were the same as they are now... control of power. Organized religions are simply resource funnels... all of them. *shrug*

HAO made with 'calamus' does nothing except be toxic in high doses. The medicinal properties of HAO made with cannabis make the thought of 'calamus' being the 'active ingredient ludicrous.

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:


He has hightened smell and taste senses, but hes blind and dumb.
"God" is singular, as in one. God's would mean plural, more than one. So hes also deaf and/or illiterate.
Calamus is an error. Another Babylonian trick
I doubt it was toxic... So...
Medicinal? No. They were getting high. A hallucinogen maybe.
You must smoke crack if you think Im defending babylon
What I said is Ancient Hebrew/Aramaic/Hebrew. Not translated and altered in Biblical Greek (Roman for Common Greek - a language that could be understood by almost anyone, educated or not), Latin, then English. Ya dig?

Fuck Rome :blowbubbles:
 
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haha try a vaporizer!

ooops!

They had a different form of incense burners back then...

SMOKE IN THE TENT

Lacking the invention of pipes, it was the practice of some ancient peoples to burn cannabis and other herbs in tents, so that more smoke could be captured and inhaled. In the last installment of this column we discussed such a group, the ancient Scythians. The Scythians were a nomadic people who travelled and settled extensively throughout Europe, the Mediterranean, Central Asia, and Russia. They burned cannabis inside small tents and inhaled the fumes for ritualistic and recreational purposes.
Moses and his priests burned incense and used the holy ointment in a portable 'tent of meeting', the famous Tent of the Tabernacle. As cannabis is listed directly as an incense later in the Bible, it seems likely that Moses and the Levite priesthood would have burned cannabis flowers and pollen along with the ointment and incense which God commanded them to make.
And Aaron shall burn incense every morning: when he dresseth the lamps, he shall burn incense upon it. And when aaron lighteth the lamps at even, he shall burn incense upon it, a perpetual incense before the lord throughout your generations. (Exodus 30:8-10)

GOD WITHIN A CLOUD

A reading of the Old Testament reveals that Yahweh "came to Moses out of the midst of the cloud" and that this cloud came from smoke produced by the burning of incense. As scholar Ralph Patai commented in his book The Hebrew Goddess, "Yahweh merely put in temporary appearances in the tent of meeting. He was a visiting deity whose appearance in or departure from the tent was used for oracular purposes."
One is reminded of the ancient Persian sage Zoroaster, another monotheist like Moses, who heard the voice of his god, Ahura Mazda, while in a state of shamanistic ecstasy produced by cannabis. The Greek oracle of Delphi also reve aled her prophecies from behind a veil of intoxicating smoke.
The insights achieved from the use of cannabis, whether inhaled in the Tent of the Tabernacle or applied topically, could have been interpreted by Moses as messages from God. This is similar to modern shamans who interpret their experiences with plant hallucinogens as containing divine revelations......The Second Appearance of Cannabis
The next Biblical account of cannabis comes under the name kaneh and appears in relation to King Solomon. In Solomon's Song of Songs, one of the most beautifully written pieces in the Old Testament, Solomon mentions kaneh in describing his bride:
Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, come with me from lebanon. Descend from the crest of amana, from the top of senir, the summit of hermon..... How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your ointment than any spice!. . .
The fragrance of your garments is like that of Lebanon..... Your plants are an orchard of pomegranates with choice fruits, with henna and nard, nard and saffron, kaneh and cinnamon, with every kind of incense tree.....
 

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Just thought Id point out that youre all DAMNED!!!

"And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, This shall be an holy anointing oil unto Me throughout your generations. Upon man's flesh shall it not be poured, neither shall ye make any other like it, after the composition of it: it is holy, and it shall be holy unto you. Whosoever compoundeth any like it, or whosoever putteth any of it upon a stranger, shall even be cut off from his people." (Exodus 30:31-33 KJV)

whoops!? that doesn't sound very fair, why give the exact recopy and then say but you can't have it?

I'm trying to figure out how you think myrrh means cannabis, here is the wiki on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrrh

Id like to believe that this is wrong and you are right but im not seeing it here.

Sorry for not reading the entire thread, but where exactly was cannabis listed as an ingredient in the quote on the first post? It doesn't. It lists Cassia, which is NOT cannabis. So you substituted one shrub for a weed... yeah, it works, it's got lots of cannabis in it... but to say it's an old recipe from the Bible? Come on...

Show me where it lists those ingredients in the first post. It does not. It says Cassia, and that is what was replaced with cannabis. The link where the recipe comes from is dead.

dude, if you not prepared to read the first few pages at least, why should anyone bother to answer. you have misunderstood from post 1 to post 3. this thread has some very detailed info on every aspect of the holy shit anointing oil and how it's made, including the original list of ingredients including cinnamon bark. cinnamon grass, cannabis, myrrh and olive oil.
 

Gray Wolf

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I have always been interested in biblical history, from a history stand point, as I eschew organized religion.

I view them all as mankind's attempts at explaining the imponderable, and a small elite group seizing control of the populous.

Bring me your money, kiss my ring, and I will intercede with the gods for you.

The creator that I envision, has no need for our money, has so sagging ego needs requiring his creations to kiss their ring, or needs anyone to intercede on my behalf.

I also understand that I am going to die being damn sure of things that ain't so, like everyone else, so nothing I have to say is gospel.

One of the things that I have noted in general however, is that believing is seeing, and even the biblical scholars are not all in agreement, nor do they seem to be drifting closer to being so.

Not being a biblical scholar, but an old tattered and beat up mongrel Euro/Native American, I am grasping for more straws than some of the scholars on the subject, but along the way I've come to respect Occam's Razor a lot.

Specifically that the simplest explanations are usually the correct one. What do we know for sure and where does logic lead us?

We know human nature, so I predict that cannabis was in both religious and recreational use at the time that the books were written.

We know that the formulators of the holy anointing oil were Jewish members of the priesthood, which we also know was an elite group.

We know that the priesthood were the doctors and scientists of the time, and that education was proscribed for the general population, as a means of holding sway.

We know that the Jewish doctrine was based on two pillars of the temple, one representing the blood of King David, and the other the priesthood, sharing power.

We know that they were folks just like are populating the earth today, with regard to evolution, so they too would have had their Da Vinci's and Einstein's.

Aroma therapy comes to us from the hoary pages of prehistory, and plant essential oils are the foundation of medical history.

Occam's Razor suggest to me that such men would have been fully aware of the properties of cannabis and where to use it.

In addition, and because one Fragrant Cane (cannabis) produces profound relief in the Holy Anointing Oil, and the other does not, it seems more likely to be the correct one.

Especially when test on rats, show that the alternative produces duodenal ulcers.

The selling point for me cuts to the chase. Holy Anointing Oil works so profoundly well for so many things, that it doesn't matter to me what the biblical scholars argue amongst themselves.

I'm guessing that if all with questions tried both the topical and sublingual versions using cannabis, that there would be less debate.
 
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This stuff is amazing. It will heal a sore, acne, toothache and great for just about everything Ive used it for. Thanks for all you do brotha Gray Wolf. My family and friends, sick or healthy thank you as well. 1:ying:
 

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Occam's Razor suggest to me that such men would have been fully aware of the properties of cannabis and where to us it.

In addition, and because one Fragrant Cane (cannabis) produces profound relief in the Holy Anointing Oil, and the other does not, it seems more likely to be the correct one.

Especially when test on rats, show that the alternative produces duodenal ulcers.
Exactly. :tiphat:

Considering that Moses, and the other holiest of holy priests, would shave themselves bald and 'annoint' themselves with this stuff... again, really doubtful that the toxic 'Calamus (sour-cane)' was in any way the active ingredient.

Moses would slather his entire body with the oil and enter a small area where cannabis incense was being burned and "Talk to God". No way would you want peons having access to this... definitely need to kick them out of the clan to maintain control.

"Organized" religions are all about power control. History has thousands of years that prove it. *shrug*

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 
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Great thread! I read the whole thread but let me make sure my formula is correct for ingesting. It seems there's been some changes due to taste and consistency.

10 grams BHO (decarbed)
3 grams coconut oil
0.7 grams cinnamon bark oil
0.7 grams cinnamon leaf oil
0.35 grams myrrh gum (liquid)

Is this correct or do I substitute something for Loranne cinnamon candy flavoring oil?
 

Ok_nobody

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I used the full .7 grams myrrh gum, but I used the cheaper Indian Myrrh from newdirectionsaromatics.com , and it is plenty palatable. nobody complains about the taste too much, although I do get some people commenting on it's lingering effects. I used the CO2 extracted cinnamon, but it seems that Gray Wolf uses the Steam Distilled stuff. I'll probably try that after I run out of the CO2 extracted stuff i've been using. I use no candy flavoring, but I've been taking all kinds of nasty tasting tinctures for many many years. Sometime maybe I'll splurge on the Egyptian Myrrh Gum. Does anybody else use that, or was I just being cheap? Possibly the Indian Myrrh Gum is actually Gugul?? I was pleased when I was at a show recently and a (card-holding, of course) friend of mine was complaining about how he couldn't dance because his knee was hurting. Having successfully used the HAO on my knee before, I recommended it to him. He tried maybe five drops of the ORAL mixture on his knee, we didn't have any additional coconut oil on hand, and he said it made his knee tingle immediately and fixed the pain quickly, I saw him dancing shortly thereafter. Normally when using the Oral mixture topically, I put it on the skin then rub it in with a tiny bit of coconut oil to spread it around... But it seems it worked anyways straight!
 

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Great thread! I read the whole thread but let me make sure my formula is correct for ingesting. It seems there's been some changes due to taste and consistency.

10 grams BHO (decarbed)
3 grams coconut oil
0.7 grams cinnamon bark oil
0.7 grams cinnamon leaf oil
0.35 grams myrrh gum (liquid)

Is this correct or do I substitute something for Loranne cinnamon candy flavoring oil?

You are correct for Holy Anointing Oil Oral. If you also add one gram of Loranne candy flavoring oil, you will have Holy Shit.
 

Gray Wolf

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I used the full .7 grams myrrh gum, but I used the cheaper Indian Myrrh from newdirectionsaromatics.com , and it is plenty palatable. nobody complains about the taste too much, although I do get some people commenting on it's lingering effects. I used the CO2 extracted cinnamon, but it seems that Gray Wolf uses the Steam Distilled stuff. I'll probably try that after I run out of the CO2 extracted stuff i've been using. I use no candy flavoring, but I've been taking all kinds of nasty tasting tinctures for many many years. Sometime maybe I'll splurge on the Egyptian Myrrh Gum. Does anybody else use that, or was I just being cheap? Possibly the Indian Myrrh Gum is actually Gugul?? I was pleased when I was at a show recently and a (card-holding, of course) friend of mine was complaining about how he couldn't dance because his knee was hurting. Having successfully used the HAO on my knee before, I recommended it to him. He tried maybe five drops of the ORAL mixture on his knee, we didn't have any additional coconut oil on hand, and he said it made his knee tingle immediately and fixed the pain quickly, I saw him dancing shortly thereafter. Normally when using the Oral mixture topically, I put it on the skin then rub it in with a tiny bit of coconut oil to spread it around... But it seems it worked anyways straight!

The lingering after taste is why we reduced the Myrrh.

I've used oral HAO on my skin successfully too, but noticed that it did burn on the back of my neck.
 
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332359

You are correct for Holy Anointing Oil Oral. If you also add one gram of Loranne candy flavoring oil, you will have Holy Shit.

Wow! I guess I have the formula that I need! Holy Shit sounds amazing. I can't wait to make some. I find it very interesting the benefits that this oil can bring that you guys talk about. I've been telling people that I know about it and they don't believe it'll do anything but get them high. My girlfriend has major back pain all the time. We were going to make some of the topical solution to try out. This all sounds pretty amazing.
 

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Wow! I guess I have the formula that I need! Holy Shit sounds amazing. I can't wait to make some. I find it very interesting the benefits that this oil can bring that you guys talk about. I've been telling people that I know about it and they don't believe it'll do anything but get them high. My girlfriend has major back pain all the time. We were going to make some of the topical solution to try out. This all sounds pretty amazing.

Good luck bro!

You can tell your girlfriend that sadly there is no high with the topical and once you start taking it orally, you will cease to be able to achieve a high.
 
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Good luck bro!

You can tell your girlfriend that sadly there is no high with the topical and once you start taking it orally, you will cease to be able to achieve a high.

I'm a little confused. Do you mean the first few times that you take it orally (decarbed), that there will be an effect but because it is so potent that we will build up a tollerance to it and it will be much harder to get high? This makes sense if its true. We already smoke so much that its hard to get high. Regardless if there's no high on the topical it is not a problem. We just want to be able to heal the pains that we have. Thanks again.
 

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From The Gaurdian newspaper....Did Mr. Bennett get his information from IC? Is Mr. Bennett an IC member?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/06/science.religion?CMP=twt_gu

Jesus w as almost certainly a cannabis user and an early proponent of the medicinal properties of the drug, according to a study of scriptural texts published this month. The study suggests that Jesus and his disciples used the drug to carry out miraculous healings.

The anointing oil used by Jesus and his disciples contained an ingredient called kaneh-bosem which has since been identified as cannabis extract, according to an article by Chris Bennett in the drugs magazine, High Times, entitled Was Jesus a Stoner? The incense used by Jesus in ceremonies also contained a cannabis extract, suggests Mr Bennett, who quotes scholars to back his claims.

"There can be little doubt about a role for cannabis in Judaic religion," Carl Ruck, professor of classical mythology at Boston University said.
Referring to the existence of cannabis in anointing oils used in ceremonies, he added: "Obviously the easy availability and long-established tradition of cannabis in early Judaism _ would inevitably have included it in the [Christian] mixtures."
Mr Bennett suggests those anointed with the oils used by Jesus were "literally drenched in this potent mixture _ Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin".

Quoting the New Testament, Mr Bennett argues that Jesus anointed his disciples with the oil and encouraged them to do the same with other followers. This could have been responsible for healing eye and skin diseases referred to in the Gospels.
"If cannabis was one of the main ingredients of the ancient anointing oil _ and receiving this oil is what made Jesus the Christ and his followers Christians, then persecuting those who use cannabis could be considered anti-Christ," Mr Bennett concludes.

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I'm a little confused. Do you mean the first few times that you take it orally (decarbed), that there will be an effect but because it is so potent that we will build up a tollerance to it and it will be much harder to get high? This makes sense if its true. We already smoke so much that its hard to get high. Regardless if there's no high on the topical it is not a problem. We just want to be able to heal the pains that we have. Thanks again.

Yes, you lose the high as your tolerance builds.
 
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