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using Magnets on your plants

DrFever

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Oh i forgot Robert i can guarntee you them plants will yield anywhere's from 12 - 20 dry 0z anyways will know within next 2 weeks if there is any difference in overall growth compared to others
Yes it may of bin a waste of time, or may not have ???? if we don't try different things then how will we ever know Right
 

Stonefree69

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So, how about gravity? Very large amounts of atoms together, like the Earth, have a gravitational field, a relative weak force, that attracts the mass of other atoms. But what is really going on?

Complex things are a collection, made of a larger number of less complex things. Gravity as we know it, is probably a complex thing, no primary basic element. To learn more about gravity, we have to forget what we know from daily life, and zoom in on the situation. Force might be a primary basic element, but there's probably no "magnetic force" and "gravity force". When a yellow car hits a wall, there is force, but not "yellow car force".
Some physicists suggest gravity may be merely inertia from an expanding universe. But there is also gravitational lensing and a big part of our universe call the Great Wall which seems to defy the Big bang theory as it's moving off in another direction by what they call The Great Attractor. Some say it's another universe. Fascinating captain.
 

DrFever

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Anyways i am excited about it here are the pics i was going to post what i did was also place magnets on bottom of totes sticky magnets on my North and south position as well actual magnets in soil same position i did 4 plants so
1 is N ans S other W and E other NSWE positioned in actual earth's poles positions etc other plant is scattered all over :))
Plants are somewhere in the bunch :)
 

Jay Daga

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Alright, lets see.
I think you should have used more powerful neodymium magnets, they´re very much stronger than "normal magnets", and they´re quite easily available too from internet at least..

But, anyway, this will be interesting to see what kind of effect these magnets will have.

I have been reading about electroculture and magnaculture littlebit but not tried them so much yet as my grows have been usually just one small harvest per year in changing growing conditions. But for example about electroculture, if you put 1,5volts DC positive charge into the soil and connect negative 1,5 VDC to the top or branch of the plant, electricity will draw water and nutrients towards the negative and so on and it will effect to the growth of the plant. This could be relatively easy to try out by any grower who is continuously growing plants (in other thread of course), and it is proven science as can be red from the rexresearch.com -> electroculture link that i posted earlier..


I have now 7 plants flowering together in 90litres of grounded soil and the growth has been very nice. I simply put bare copper wire going around near the edges of big containers bottom which i connected to earth ground in the electric socket. I figured this could be good for the plants, as for myself sleeping grounded gives clearly more rested sleep and so on.. It synchronizes the rhythms/cycles of the body (or plant) with the rhythm of the Earths cycles and it makes good sense how it is good for the health in general to be grounded as big part of the time as possible. This magnet-thing has something to do with it too, and i´d bet that somehow aligning the magnets with the poles of the Earth also have different effect than not-aligning and so on.
More research is certainly needed on these matters.
 

Sativa Dragon

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Some physicists suggest gravity may be merely inertia from an expanding universe. But there is also gravitational lensing and a big part of our universe call the Great Wall which seems to defy the Big bang theory as it's moving off in another direction by what they call The Great Attractor. Some say it's another universe. Fascinating captain.
It has been accepted that gravity is directly porportional to matter in space time. Higgs Boson Particle.

High!
 

Sativa Dragon

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Science Boner!!

Science Boner!!

Ok this has just got to be said as well :) hopefully it will sink into that so called brain you might have what does our Magnetic poles actually do ???? could we as humans survive without magnetics Answer is NO

Things aren't always what they seem to be.
Water is a fluid, and it's wet. That's how we experience it, from a human point of view. But when looking closely, we can see now that water is made of pretty solid atoms, and these atoms aren't wet. We usually don't know about the details, we only experience the group effect, how zillions of details act together.
We see hot and cold as opposites, but there is no cold really. If something has a temperature, it's always a positive value. And deeper; we call the average effect of many vibrating atoms "temperature". Temperature is not a primary basic element, it's yet another "illusion".
Light is invisible. It's the collision of light on your nerves that you can sense. The world we live in is, from a detail point of view, founded on illusions, seeing group effects and almost blind to the details that really make our word.

So, how about gravity? Very large amounts of atoms together, like the Earth, have a gravitational field, a relative weak force, that attracts the mass of other atoms. But what is really going on?

Complex things are a collection, made of a larger number of less complex things. Gravity as we know it, is probably a complex thing, no primary basic element. To learn more about gravity, we have to forget what we know from daily life, and zoom in on the situation. Force might be a primary basic element, but there's probably no "magnetic force" and "gravity force". When a yellow car hits a wall, there is force, but not "yellow car force".


Energy level
A tree letting go of an apple; the apple accelerates to the Earth.
To accelerate an apple in space with a rocket costs energy. Does the Earth's gravitational field generate energy out of nothing? I don't think so. I think an apple closer to the ground contains less energy than an apple in a tree. The amount of energy that can come from dropping it is equal to the loss of energy. Similar to atoms coming together in a chemical reaction, making molecules and releasing energy.


Straight through mass
The force fields of gravity and magnetism can go straight through us, with only a little effect. Makes me wonder what more can go straight through us. Are there things that can go through us without any effect? If there are, it is impossible to sense them. Smart people concluded that atoms in our body are mostly "empty" space, leaving lots of room for stuff to travel through us, with no or hardly any interaction.


What can be observed: Gravity
- Mass has or causes a gravitational field in and around the space it's in.
- It costs no energy to maintain the force field.
- Gravity is a weak force, relative to other forces. It takes the mass of the whole earth to produce 1G on a small stone, while a simple string can carry that stone. The forces that keep molecules together are so much stronger than gravity.
- A planet has no gravity poles (like magnets have a north and south pole)
- The stronger the force of gravity in an area, the slower speed of time goes there.
- The gravitational field penetrates every known material. There is no known way to shield gravity. Although some have claimed a reduction of between 0.5 to 2% in weight, above fast rotating superconductors.
- Gravity can bend the path of light.
- A gravitational field reaches very far. No limit of distance is known.


What can be observed: Magnetism
- A permanent magnet uses no energy to maintain its force field.
- A flow of electrons creats a magnet field.
- A magnet has poles (north & south). A magnetic monopole is not know yet.
- An electro magnet uses energy to maintain its force field, unless it's a superconducting one (?).
- When shutting of the power to an electro magnet, the force field collapses, which produces an electric current while collapsing.
- Even atoms have tiny magnetic fields.
- A permanent magnet can be made by aligning the spin of hot atoms, in a magnet field, and then freezing their positions, by cooling.
- Not all atoms are attracted a magnetic force field.
Part of the energetic system of an atom, are one or more electrons. Electrons can be on their own also. A stream of electrons we call an electric current. When an electric current flows, it creates a magnetic field. This is easy to prove with a compass (that contains a permanent magnet)
As long as the current flows, there is a magnetic field. Less people know that it costs energy to create a magnetic field, and that when turning of the power, the field collapses and produces power.


Superconducting
Through superconducting materials, electrons can flow without resistance. Superconducting material has no interior magnetic field; the Meissner effect is the expulsion of a magnetic field from a superconductor during its transition to the superconducting state. No magnetic field inside.
we couldn;t so what does magnetics really do well with out magnetics Birds and other species wouldn;t know where to go as well as Airplanes GPS the list goes on right the poles help reflect radiation away from us or we would all be dead magnetism is allot more indepth then what some people might think

Why is it no matter how to plant a seed the roots will always GO DOWN why is that ??? could it be magnetism in the earths core ?????
you got to realize as well no matter what they will still grow .

I got a big old science Boner reading that post, Well done indeed.
I recommend a nice clear Sativa before reading it. Here is some food for thought.

Effects of magnetic flux density and direction of the magnetic field on growth and CO2 exchange rate of potato plantlets in vitro.

Iimoto M, Watanabe K, Fujiwara K.
Source

Department of Bioproduction Science, Chiba University, Japan.

Abstract

Potato plantlets (Solanum tuberosum L. cv. Benimaru) were cultured in vitro for 20 days on a 10 ml MS agar medium under a magnetic flux density of 0 (control: Cont), 2, 4 or 6 mT (T=Wb m-2) in both upward and downward directions of magnetic field. Air temperature in the head space of the test tubes and photosynthetic flux density on the culture shelf were 25 +/- 1 degrees C and 38 micromoles m-2 s-1 respectively. The results showed that a magnetic flux density of around 4 mT had beneficial effects, regardless of the direction of magnetic field, on the growth promotion and enhancement of CO2 uptake of potato plantlets in vitro The direction of magnetic field at the magnetic flux densities tested had no effects on the growth and CO2 exchange rate.
 

Sativa Dragon

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We all should be getting research cred for this thread, about that time I be dead and all that was found would be said and we would all benefit from the magnetic thread.

Uh!! yea!! ats Right ma NI**A!
 

Sativa Dragon

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Everyone who is interested in this thread should go to, rexresearch.com and read the introduction,then ask yourself if you would trust your lifes savings with these people, "Novelty" sites are all over the net and they are there because they are interesting. however I would have to say if there was any... I mean like valuable information it would have been published already by some aspiring science university grad. But it wasn't so... um... ya... My peers and myself prefer some reputable scholarly published information. As for grounding your plants to an outlet... Just letting you know that outlet is attached to a electrical grid that is AC 60hz, not DC like mother nature, Mother nature is Strictly one way DC. Your Ground is contaminated with Inductance from the 60hz line that sits right next to it. Just a thought. Get a concrete drill bit and a hammer drill (you can rent them), drille a 1/2" hole in your basement floor till you start seeing dirt. Get some rebar from a home improvement store, cut off a piece long enough and jam it in the whole. now ground your plants to that, and your bed, that way you know you are getting true ground not some contaminated crap. Or what you can do is buy an induction filter it will filter out the noise from you ground, real popular in countries that have shitty electrical grids that have dirty power that tend to destroy sensitive electronics.

Cheers
 

Sativa Dragon

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Alright, lets see.
I think you should have used more powerful neodymium magnets, they´re very much stronger than "normal magnets", and they´re quite easily available too from internet at least..

But, anyway, this will be interesting to see what kind of effect these magnets will have.

I have been reading about electroculture and magnaculture littlebit but not tried them so much yet as my grows have been usually just one small harvest per year in changing growing conditions. But for example about electroculture, if you put 1,5volts DC positive charge into the soil and connect negative 1,5 VDC to the top or branch of the plant, electricity will draw water and nutrients towards the negative and so on and it will effect to the growth of the plant. This could be relatively easy to try out by any grower who is continuously growing plants (in other thread of course), and it is proven science as can be red from the rexresearch.com -> electroculture link that i posted earlier..


I have now 7 plants flowering together in 90litres of grounded soil and the growth has been very nice. I simply put bare copper wire going around near the edges of big containers bottom which i connected to earth ground in the electric socket. I figured this could be good for the plants, as for myself sleeping grounded gives clearly more rested sleep and so on.. It synchronizes the rhythms/cycles of the body (or plant) with the rhythm of the Earths cycles and it makes good sense how it is good for the health in general to be grounded as big part of the time as possible. This magnet-thing has something to do with it too, and i´d bet that somehow aligning the magnets with the poles of the Earth also have different effect than not-aligning and so on.
More research is certainly needed on these matters.

Oh ya and connecting a DC source to conductor results in a resistive heating element, ever see the pickle with the two leads experiment, it's on a large scale what your suggesting about causeing small amounts of what nature would see as lightening, which doesn't serve much purpose to your plants, everyone do not do this. It will cause the fluids in the plant to heat up and cause what is known as electrolisis which is the water molecule being forced into it's base components of hydrogen oxygen. You don't even have to do the math to know that Ozone is three oxygen molecules bonded, very corrosive, and is what you can smell after a thunderstorm with lightening. Alll Very bad bad stuff. Do not hook your plant up to DC current. And if you do and it hurts your plants, send me a PM and I will send you a cure for $5 plus shipping and handleing.

Peace.
 

DrFever

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This is all a learning curve for me as well i have bin thinking how everyone mentions should of used stronger magnets then again i think well as our earth's magnet is deep within our core could very well be its lost allot coming thru rock etc
i have noticed plants are looking good tommorow will be first actual feeding for them so we will know within next 4 days if any change as i will post some pics comparing them with others i have noticed some height growth between them
 

Sativa Dragon

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This is all a learning curve for me as well i have bin thinking how everyone mentions should of used stronger magnets then again i think well as our earth's magnet is deep within our core could very well be its lost allot coming thru rock etc
i have noticed plants are looking good tommorow will be first actual feeding for them so we will know within next 4 days if any change as i will post some pics comparing them with others i have noticed some height growth between them

I was thinking the same, just like feeding, hey what if we fed maximum Nutes.... Better safe than sorry and go with a little at a time. I think you are a wise Person. No point wasting good soil nutes buds and time eh!
 

Useful Idiot

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If you think that magnets will help your plants in any way then you are just crazy or really stupid.

It just has to be said.

R.Fortune
Come on Robert,this person takes the time and effort to do a study for US based on some pretty credible scientific knowledge and you say that.I remember back in the day some folks had an idea of growin without hoods,ya know vert style, how has that worked out for folks?? Heath came along and folks doubted his ideas.I know that is a far cry from this topic but.There are plenty more examples of what I am trying to say ....but I am so stoned and my mind is not allowing me to state all of the ideas I came up with when I saw your post. I guess what I am trying to say is that, I in some way agree with what you say,BUT, I will never just come right out and be rude to someone who is willing to think outside the box. That is how many great things happen.In short, if the magnet thing does not prove to be a benefit for our plant of choice, I will still acknowledge and show respect to the person who gave his time to try something that I have not. Damn I hope what I said makes sense.Anyway :tiphat: to OP.
 

Stonefree69

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These are the magnets I think you'd want - be careful they are POWERFUL and can break your fingers if mishandled: http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?cPath=39&products_id=371 I think he straps one to either side to make Kefir and it doubles production - I've seen it in his videos and he seems straight up. I'll re-watch his video to see how he orients polarities.

You should also look into Milk Kefir, very healthy for your digestive system + other benefits and isn't like any processed probiotic at all. Like yogurt on steroids.


OK found the video, let me know if link works as I had to subscribe for the info: http://www.timelesshealth.net/kefir/mpmembers/21bmp2/kefirvideos.html It's north side up on one magnet and opposing magnet south side up on other side of jar. Jar size is about a pint to a quart and he also doubles up and uses 4 of them. Here's the results: http://www.timelesshealth.net/kefir/mpmembers/21cturbocharged/kefirvideos.html
 

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