Why growing with partners wont work...let's hear your opinion

[chase]

Its not safe the less people that know the better , even family.Big mouth bragarts , or imagin someone trying to show off , & bringing some ditzy girl into the grow room .

When I was a little kid , I had a partner who tried to keep the buds , & give me the leaves lol , he ended up with the leaves.

I,ve considered doing an out door grow , & spliting gas $ with a partner.Otherwise I cant see any benifit .The le4agle # of plants ? Mabey just sharing cuts , so that if something happens (god forbid)you get your cuts back.Mabey if your partner is a mentor?

Its better kept privet , even from cool folks .A partner is more likely to contaminate your grow.Say he pets his dog , & brings spider mights into your room.

 

[yerboyblue]

Partners=Best Case: You do twice as good as usual, but you have to split it in half.
Partners=Best Case: You cut your work load in half, but have to do double the work in order to be at the same starting point.

Simple math.

 

[eastbeast]

IMO opinion partners are a no-no. BUT it's good to have someone you can trust to watch your back.

I have a good friend that lives a few blocks away that grows some excellent bud. every week or so we hang out, check out each others gardens etc. Whenever i'm out of town he watches/ waters my shit and i do the same for him. If i need soil or pots, fertilizer, pesticide etc. he hooks it up and i do the same. Same thing with seeds and clones. If i have to trash my mothers for some reason(it's happened before) i know it's all good because he has backups of my shit and vice versa.

is it a partnership? no, but it's made both of our lives a lot easier and it's made our mutual hobby a little more enjoyable.

probably because money isn't involved...

 

[Aeroguerilla]

partners work aslong as you allot yourself atleast 75% of harvested product. then it dont matter how many hours you gotta put in its his ass on the line and not yours. you are just collecting a percentage at the end. as far as 50/50 partners fuck that i wouldnt waste my time. 75/25 take it or leave it

 

[Arthritis_sucks]

it worked for me when my partner was a silent one an it was 75-25 split.

 

[Iffy-Caradoc]

F**king Partners

F**king Partners

Guys, when I saw this thread I had to laugh. I'm not alone - sadly.
I took a five year lease on a commercial unit and ran a decent sized grow for four of those years. I had two partners, one who was a friend of thirty years. Yeah, I can hear you chuckling. It was torture! Every fuckin decision was a fuckin debate, man it was endless. But you do get to find out who you can, and who you can't trust when it comes down to dollar or bud.
The shit hit the fan a few months ago and we all 'fell out of bed' so to speak. The grow was five fuckin weeks into flower and had to be shifted and I end up over seven grand out of pocket!
Partners screw you!
I saved the girls, thankfully and they're a couple of days from harvest in my 'loftie'.
I can't tell you what a relief it was to get them out of my life, clear the unit and sort my own garden out - bliss.
The one single downside to all of this? I get to do all the trimming!
Take it easy guys and happy growing!

 

[jm420]

The only ship that dosn't float is a partnership,and if sense was common everyone would have it.

 

[jahrastafareye]

there is absolutely no reason to have a partner period. If you can't do it yourself , don't do it at all. there is no way to split the work exactly 50/50 , someone's always getting fucked , and more often than not , its you.

 

[RubeGoldberg]

lots of partners over the years, greed or disagreements ALWAYS get in the way..

a Hierarchy is needed.. which brings us to the paradox of workers.... They're either too smart and will try to leave you in order to grow on their own... OR they're too fucking dumb to maintain the grow..

 

[Iron_Lion]

I never understood the whole partner thing. Unless you're doing something huge.

100% of 50 is the same as 50% of a 100 and only one person to worry about.

 

[mr cheese]

I never understood the whole partner thing. Unless you're doing something huge.

100% of 50 is the same as 50% of a 100 and only one person to worry about.

very true but at the same time no empire can be built by one man alone! trick is to have respect but also to be to feared... sad but true.... c

 

[RubeGoldberg]

very true but at the same time no empire can be built by one man alone! trick is to have respect but also to be to feared... sad but true.... c

exactly...

like i said in my post above, a hierarchy is needed, however workers have a paradox where they are too smart or too stupid.

I highly recommend this book:
Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert B. Cialdini


basically you need to create a situation of mutual cooperation, while still maintaining order.

I lived abroad and would bring friends from my home country, this worked well because they could not operate there without my help.

But when you're dealing with your old school chums or whatever in a place where you both are from, it gets harder and harder.

 

[hektic54]

Once upon a time I grew with two partners. It worked out well. But buying anything we needed was like an act of congress. I had to put on a huge presentation in order to get them to open their pocket books. The truth is. There are 1 x 10^50 ways to skin a cat, and everyone has their own way. When you get two people skinnin' cats together, well, it just doesn't work cause one person skins one way and the other does things their way. Living with someone is enough of a challenge. Growing with them? Never again.

 

[mr cheese]

exactly...

like i said in my post above, a hierarchy is needed, however workers have a paradox where they are too smart or too stupid.

I highly recommend this book:
Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion by Robert B. Cialdini


basically you need to create a situation of mutual cooperation, while still maintaining order.

I lived abroad and would bring friends from my home country, this worked well because they could not operate there without my help.

But when you're dealing with your old school chums or whatever in a place where you both are from, it gets harder and harder.

thats why the old adage of never work with friends or family holds true...

trick is to let everyone earn a decent wage so they dont want to leave! but also be ruthless enuf when someone does try it on so the next person thinks twice!

sounds like typical movies shit i knw but hey movies come frm reality!

ill give that book a read, great beliver in psychology.. cheers c

 

[Holdin']

I worked with a partner at my last operation, which was a family member. I'd always said I wouldn't grow with a partner, just because you always hear the negative stories about it. But I thought growing with a family member couldn't go wrong. Well, needless to say, I was wrong about that. I didn't have the space, but I had most of the equipment and experience. He didn't have much experience, but had the space and had been wanting me to do a setup with him for a while and, me being antsy to get something going, I agreed.

It's so very true, to be able to split the work/costs and fruits 50/50 is nearly impossible. Somebody is going to get fucked. And I think the biggest problem with it is contrasting work ethic and personalities.

You get one guy that wants to be frugal and thrifty, one guy who's willing to do whatever it takes to have the best set up possible. One guy that takes his work seriously, wants to keep everything neat and clean and do everything to the T, and then the opposite of that.

I think that the only way it could work, which is extremely rare, would be to have two people that have exactly the same personality, exactly the same level of experience, exactly the same budget, exactly the same desire for quality and preferance of smoke. And the same level of trust and honesty. And then on top of all that, be willing to track all of the expenses down to every cent.

Or one way it could work, is to have more of a consultant than a "partner." And that would be if say, you had all of the space, means, budget, equip, etc... but not a high level of experience. You pay for every cent of the grow and do all of the real work, but your "partner" helps you along with way with the method, feedings, etc. But the "partner" agrees upon a percentage of the harvest upon completion. And this would still be a rarity that it would work.

Now on the other hand, if it's not a medical grow, partners should NEVER take place no matter what. That's just my opinion. Your garden should be your garden only, and nobody should know about your garden. Simple.

 

[Midnite Toker]

Make your friend your partner. It's a quick way to find out he is a dick biter.
~mT

 

[Iffy-Caradoc]

Partners

Partners

I could not do it with out my wife. I could, but I enjoy it much more when she is involved. It takes some of the load off. She just does what i ask her to do, and she chalks it up to getting to smoke as much as she can. She smokes a lot. She can trim like a motherfucker too. She will trim for hours, and not bitch once. As long as I keep her wine full, her bowl full, and the music going she will just keep on trimming. If I am out of town she can handle things while i am gone. She asks a lot of questions, and I give a lot of answers. She quite complaing about me spending so much time online reading after the results have just gotten better and better. I can spend 6 hours reading grow books, magazines, forums, and she will just ask what I am learning. I love that woman! Sorry for everyone elses troubles with their partners. I hope this can atleast put a smile on some of your faces.

P.S. I have a really low tolerance, and my wife can smoke hash all day everyday, and have some edibles, and just keep on going like it's nothing. She is my tester. If she says the smoke is good then I know for a fact it is great. She always gives me a 1-10 . I have only gotten to an 8.5. I think this is great because she has never rated any other that she has had over a 7. Again I love that woman!

Dude, you are one lucky man - respect!

 

[JetLife175]

Running a room with a crew right now. First time really doing the partner thing. So far so.good.

About three runs in and there hasn't been a hiccup. Like RubeGoldberg said, there are dumb workers and smart workers.

I'm the only one with access to the room, the only one that knows what they are doing, and I'm there daily. I think I'm in one of those golden situations where we both understand we are helping each other out.

They had the space, I had the gear and cuts. And I know they won't rat, its at their.house. perfect.

 

[mattkilla420]

I tremble at the horror stories im seeing/ starting to go thru. We have harvested total of three plants and all has been well. All the start up equipment was mine. A few minor things have been added. Its at his house, he's paying electric bill and The risk. I've only grown 1x before this but I've got a big head start on him being 25 yrs younger, horticultural student, and being a member of icmag has made my first 2 grows now nice. He doesn't kno much of anything but is attending to 100‰ of watering. Right now I'm goin there about 2-3x a week for routine maintenance,cloning,xplanting all this type work. So really its close to even on work. Splitting the buds was no problem we r both honest with each other and really doing it to medicate. The disagreement on the styles of growing and methods has become only a small problem at this point. he is gave me full control of the Grow Room, but we consult on any plant changes.

I spent 70$ at grow store on co2, loupe, and a zipper door( which he broke) and was really awkward on my part asking for half which he could only come up with 20$. No biggie. This is the stuff that's got to get worked out.

Anyways he has a friend who wants basically the same thing done at his house. Me go in and setup a 3 spot(clone,veg,flower) set up and basically get him on his feet for first few months then maintain and take 50% . So in my eyes managing 2 grow spots with minnimal equipment involved and little to no risk:thumbup:. I had a talk with the fella the other day and things are brewing. So I must really have myself between a rock n a hard place. After reading the horror stories. But hey I'm tired of being low class and wanna use my brain to make money. Smoke on brothas

 

[redbudduckfoot]

just lay the law down tight. you the BOSS(rick ross voice), be the Boss.

rbdf