Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts

[juggo]

Great thread! Really diggin on all the different views. Seems like once you become aware of the illusion,there are quite a few different levels of acceptence.From pure agression to utter peace..this is a lot of stuff for someone whos never heard the truths before.However disenlightened i get knowing more and more..it has me taught me to believe nothing you hear,and half of what you see,without doing some of your own research and seeing different perspectives from all sides. There is some serious problems in the U.S.,and not enough time in the day to research everything. Gold plated bars in knox is a good start,heh.

peace,
juggo

 

[idiit]

lol ya i think stoners have a tendancy to fall for conspiracy theorys, much more so than normal people, afterall, we grew up in one of the bigger conspiracies out there, pot prohibition, something about realizing that the government has been lying to you about this drug and everything they have done to keep it from becoming legal and mainstream...it kinda makes you wonder if this sort of thing isn't happening in every aspect of our lives...

^where my head is at presently. anyone that thinks the federal reserve has anything to do with the federal gubmint of the good ol' usofa is wearing a tin foil hat!

the very idea that the federal reserve can exist and operate on america soil needs to be challenged. these zioist bankers have no right constitutionally to print our money, declare QE anything. the federal reserve is the dark cabal. they have no right to even exist on american soil. they are a group of off shore zionist bankers headquartered out of europe.

the year 2012 is here. it ends soon. this is a very famous year for the dawning of a new era for earth and earth humans. here are four sites that cover "tinfoil" perspectives of the new dimensional shift transition that i believe are true ( as opposed to two airplanes taking down three towers 9/11 style for example, or that the fed reserve is anything but a bunch of zionist bankers making us slaves via debt as money fiat currency). .

http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/

http://kauilapele.wordpress.com/

http://andromedacouncil.com/

^the above andromeda council is an "aliens here to help us webpage" for all tinfoil madhatters.

the aliens are saying that cannabis will be legalized soon:

36. Current medical procedures and therapies won’t change abruptly at the end of this year, but beneficial therapies and substances now banned will become openly available. Yes, this includes marijuana, and people will choose to use it judiciously. The Illuminati in pharmaceutical companies, who have powerful influence on FDA, AMA and CDC decisions, have made anything illegal that would cut into their profits, and they won’t be around to enforce those edicts.

http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2012/09/matthew-ward-september-24-2012.html#more

ok. two choices for now:

one:
debt as money (fiat currency) bankrupting everyone.
war on organic food,healthy water.
martin luther king, jfk, twin towers, vietnam war, war in iraq (weapons of mass destruction never found), mary mageline was a whore, social security that everybody was forced to pay into for their individual retirement is now an entitlement, fast and furious where attorney general eric holder sent arms to mex drug cartels and 'bummer closed the files for "national security", col. ollie north and the contras revealing the cia as the world's largest drug trafficker, afghanistan opium production up 500% after being liberated and freed from drug lords by the us , ad nausium.

or

two:

dawning of the age of aquarius, dimensional shift, mayan prophecy, hopi indian prophecy.

both sound pretty tin foil madhatter to me.

 

[bentom187]

lets keep this on the FED please.i dont think this is really about a theory reguarding the fed,since this all can be researched and proven.it just takes having a healthy attention span to get through it. heres the latest financial hearing on the fed.

Hearing on the Price of Money Sept 21, 2012
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FIAT EMPIRE: Why the Federal Reserve Violates the U.S. Constitution
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[idiit]

lets quit referring to "THE FEDERAL RESERVE" as "THE FEDERAL RESERVE". that's like referring to a freshly laid dog turd in your bed as "THE ROSE SOMEONE LEFT FOR ME".

the fed is not part of the federal government. the fed has no reserves. the fed is owned and controlled by offshore bankers, not us citizens.

the fed has no right to print our money nor announce quantatative easing or any other policy.

any discussion referring to the zionist banking cartel should be referred to as "THE ZIONIST BANKING CARTEL INTENTIONALLY MISLABELED AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE".

instead of discussing the federal reserve we should be discussing how to get rid of this unconstitutional private corporation running the world's money supply out of america.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

lets quit referring to "THE FEDERAL RESERVE" as "THE FEDERAL RESERVE". that's like referring to a freshly laid dog turd in your bed as "THE ROSE SOMEONE LEFT FOR ME".

the fed is not part of the federal government. the fed has no reserves. the fed is owned and controlled by offshore bankers, not us citizens.

the fed has no right to print our money nor announce quantatative easing or any other policy.

any discussion referring to the zionist banking cartel should be referred to as "THE ZIONIST BANKING CARTEL INTENTIONALLY MISLABELED AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE".

instead of discussing the federal reserve we should be discussing how to get rid of this unconstitutional private corporation running the world's money supply out of america.

same thing as the IRS

 

[gaiusmarius]

calling the international bankers (shareholders in the fed and other central banks) Zionists is misleading in my opinion. makes it look like it's all about Jews, when in fact it's all about power, influence and control.

 

[delta9nxs]

thank you, citizens! after reading this i now know who i'm going to vote for!


Hitler!

 

[idiit]

same thing as the IRS
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^yes. the irs is about the same as the federal reserve as far as legitimacy.

zionists shouldn't be confused with spiritual jews?

^yes.

should we be referring to the federal reserve by that title?

^no.

should we be discussing why a foreign privately controlled entity ( misleadingly called the fed reserve) that postures itself as legitimate be removed from america?

^yes.

does the federal reserve have any constitutional right to print our money and decree monetary policies such as quantative easing?

^no.

 

[Rouge]

man I just hafta gets my 2 centavos in.

The federal reserve has 2 mandates: ensuring a stable money supply/banking system and ensuring full employment. They have been very good at one and poor at the other. Why is that? Mutually conflicting goals perhaps? Or bribery (lobbying) from the rich and "special interest"?

Now one of our president, John Kennedy, tried to move the stable money supply mandate to the dept. of the treasury. That man was assassinated. Coincidence? mmmm?

This is a topic that needs an open forum to the American people. I applaud Ron Raul for his efforts but the powers that be will block his bills at every step, short of killing him. Why do ya think Harry Reid , head of the senate's democrats, is holding this up?

However there is another fella that might challenge the ruling paradyme of the rich elitists. Namely, Gary Johnson of the Libertarian party. If we can get him in the presidential debates, things just might get very interesting. I could say a lot about the guy but essentially he is cut from the same cloth that Ron Paul is; a man of principle.

 

[idiit]

money is not debt. money is storehouse of value. fiat currency issued by the fed is virtually created out of debt. you cannot virtually create gold,silver,silk,cotton,food,water,transportation,lumber,coffee,oil, etc.

the world is broke. japan,europe, usa, etc. this is what happens when you rely on debt creation (fiat currency) as money that has and never will have any intrinsic value as opposed to real collateral, real money, real intrinsic value.

the fiat currency scam is the biggest ponzy scam in the history of man and it was created to enslave us. the zionist banking cabal masquerading as "the federal reserve" is totally illegitimate. we need to go back to storehouse of value as money. debt is slavery.

QUOTE of the Year
Gold is the money of kings, silver is the money of gentlemen, barter is the money of peasants - but debt is the money of slaves

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"

think it out! money as debt? is that what money is? f*** no!

tricky dick nixon took the us off the gold standard in '71/72. all other nations currencies (few exceptions) were pegged to the $, so when the us went off the gold standard it took the world with it into fiat bullshit script posturing as real money. the money supply globally has exponentially increased since that date and now the world is broke. (some exceptions).

mankind has had money (storehouse of value) for thousands of years. this is the first time in the history of man that all world currencies are fiat ( script created out of debt). all fiat currencies in the history of man have eventually reverted to their intrinsic value of zero and left everyone who believed in fiat value broke, or even worse; in debt.

broke means no debts, no collateral. it's a bad place to be. in debt is worse than broke.

 

[delta9nxs]

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

 

[bentom187]

contracting with the fed and irs......now ive been jumping down different rabbit holes and their seems to be a few remedies worth looking into like UCC 1-308 and redeeming in lawful money i havnt tried either but once i learn the in's and outs of redemption like proper record forming with the county clerk, i will.im sure theres other remidies out there or arguments that are mainstream to the contrary wich is why i have linked as much relivant laws as i could while being constrained by time.

maritime law is adopted,important.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0304_0064_ZS.html
4. In disapproving the doctrine of Swift v. Tyson, the Court does not hold unconstitutional § 34 of the Federal Judiciary Act of 1789 or any other Act of Congress. It merely declares that, by applying the doctrine of that case, rights which are reserved by the Constitution to the several States have been invaded. P. 79.

govenment forms into corperation
http://www.teamlaw.org/DCOA-1871.pdf

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002
28 USC § 3002 - Definitions
(15)“United States” means—
(A)a Federal corporation;

(B)an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or

(C)an instrumentality of the United States




check out page 2.

notice the play on words "person" and "citizen" below, it states their is a duality...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14a_user.html#amdt14a_hd3
CRS Annotated Constitution.....14th amendment to the federal constitution
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

...based on several definitions of the united states.there is the territory,the states and the federal districts that are often synonomous to the average joe.

heres a case as evidence that the courts do indeed recognize the difference.http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/324/652/
RE:the case above
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section10
Article I sec10.
No state shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection laws: and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any state on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress.


they can only tax you if you contract with them to do so,now how have we contracted with them? volentarily by using those frn's you are agreeing to be taxed when infact the only tax they can levy is on the state and DC and here is the definitions of both straight from the IRC.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7701
(9) United States
The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes only the States and the District of Columbia.

(10) State
The term “State” shall be construed to include the District of Columbia, where such construction is necessary to carry out provisions of this title.


looks like only DC and its subcontractors own the tax burden.





possible remidies
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411
12 USC § 411 - Issuance to reserve banks; nature of obligation; redemption
Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.

Federal Reserve Act - Remedy
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and....

sign your signature UCC 1-308 (in civil matters )
http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/1/article1.htm
§ 1-308. Performance or Acceptance Under Reservation of Rights.

(a) A party that with explicit reservation of rights performs or promises performance or assents to performance in a manner demanded or offered by the other party does not thereby prejudice the rights reserved. Such words as "without prejudice," "under protest," or the like are sufficient.

(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to an accord and satisfaction.

 

[idiit]

^excellent post. right thinking in action.

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

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