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420ish

Active member
a 32 quart cooler.you do have portable beer coolers in the shape of a rectangle with a removable lid?i used a coleman 32 quart cooler and cut a 6 " hole on each side and put the 6 "fan inside it.VINTAGE RED AND WHITE THERMOS 32 QUART COOLER 21" L x 13"W x 14"sorry my answer was vague.if you want i can dig mine out and take a pic of it.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

he prob meant an igloo cooler..........cut holes at each end for intake and exhaust.

the fan is inside where the noise is dampened.

a 32 quart cooler.you do have portable beer coolers in the shape of a rectangle with a removable lid?i used a coleman 32 quart cooler and cut a 6 " hole on each side and put the 6 "fan inside it.VINTAGE RED AND WHITE THERMOS 32 QUART COOLER 21" L x 13"W x 14"sorry my answer was vague.if you want i can dig mine out and take a pic of it.


ahhh, an esky !
 
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DaveTheNewbie

Please feel free to view my stadium bare bulb set up, you might see some things I messed up on and use them to suit your needs and build from there... I used 600 watt bulbs too.. have a look my friend, feel free to comment as you wish... mind you its an older grow some what.


https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=199184

the one thing i notice there is that you have massive plant numbers crammed all around the light, and i have fuck all.

Ive already ordered what it takes to double my plant numbers to 8 per light, and that alone should double my yield.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

Sunday update. The 2 big plants are 7 weeks in 1 to go. They are def bulking up.

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The 4 other plants have done 2 weeks and stretched nicely. its still obvious i need at least 6 if not 8 plants around the light as 4 hasnt completely filled the circle. The other option is some sort of screen to stretch it out.

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and the veg cab is going full bore for 2 weeks in. Topping early seems a win with this strain.

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those in veg look like they will fill your flower tent a bit more than your current run.

your plants are looking dank bro.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

those in veg look like they will fill your flower tent a bit more than your current run.

your plants are looking dank bro.

yeah they are going to be a fair bit bigger than the current run, an extra 2 weeks under a 100w CFL while small can make a big difference.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

wow i cant believe it but i just broke a top off of one of the 2.5 weeks in flower plants ... kicking myself.
at least with vert growing its not as bad as top lighting but still.
 

Max Yields

Active member
You aren't a real grower until you accidentally break a main cola in flower (among other fuck ups), welcome to the club. It happened twice to me before, both times early in flower, about the same time frame as you. Be glad it's at this time & not halfway through or something. On the bright side my side branches packed on a very good amount of weight.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

You aren't a real grower until you accidentally break a main cola in flower (among other fuck ups), welcome to the club. It happened twice to me before both times early in flower, about the same time frame as you. Be glad it's at this time & not halfway through or something. On the bright side my side branches packed on a very good amount of weight.


lol too true i suspect.
 

420ish

Active member
sucks way worse at 6 weeks in then 2.5!i recommend making individual vert screens.you can also move the plants closer to tighten up the circle.use a few stakes to spread out the sides on the 2.5week run and move in a little.my yields went up when i made the circle 42 inches across instead of 48 inches.how are the trichs looking on the 7 week plants?do you like 50/50 milky/amber?i prefer mostly milky with a little clear and no amber but yields like amber milky best.
 

420ish

Active member
better veg lighting will help the growth rate so you dont need to go to higher plant count.for cloning and early veg cheap ebay led ufos work great.a good hybrid strain that stretches alot also helps keep plant count down.looks like you are doing some great work learning!
 

Ichabod Crane

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wow i cant believe it but i just broke a top off of one of the 2.5 weeks in flower plants ... kicking myself.
at least with vert growing its not as bad as top lighting but still.

Could be worse I fried the top off a Jedi kush with a AC hose that broke free at week 5. Lost 1/2 to 2/3 of plant. I only got 3.75 ounces after losing that much plant.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

ok sounds like im not the only one thats bashed a top off then.
planning on cutting down on sunday, dont have a trich scope yet so im gonna have to go with the look of the buds and a bit of "feel"
the biggest problem is when i used to grow i used PGRs and now im not. That makes it waaaay different to look at and judge.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

Sunday Update

Sunday Update

big week this week.
first off ill post pictures. everyone likes pictures.
make sure you read the story at the end, its interesting (at least to me)

Clones taken today : (limit of 5 images - removed)

Clones taken 4 weeks ago, topped. Will go into veg chamber next week : (limit of 5 images - removed)

veg plants 3 weeks in before pruning :

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same veg plants after pruning :

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flowering plants at 3 weeks in :

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flowering plants at 8 weeks before harvest :

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after harvest :

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and drying : (limit of 5 images - removed)

now with the veg plants ive decided to harves the back half as everyone does with vert growing, but also to take a bit off the front. This gives me more of a sheet of plant than a cylinder. The idea is to make a smoothe front to the light so that i dont get branches charging straight into the light quite as bad as i do now.

of the 2 harvest plants in a VERY wet state with HEAPS of stem and only HALF trimmed i got the following weights :
plant 1 : 492g
plant 2 : 1019g
so i was right about my estimation that the lesser pruned plant would yield about double the over pruned plant. But having said that, when i pulled apart the root balls of the 2 plants, the high yielding plant coco was soaked / saturated and the low yielding plant dodo was dry as dust and light in colour. So whos to say how much of the yield was due to pruning and how much was due to dodgy watering? In the picture of the 2 plants the one with yellowing leaves is the one that was dry. The other plant had extremely deep green leaves.

Pulling apart the root balls i also noticed that deep in the middle of the root balls of both plants it was freezing cold. not cool but almost frozen. A problem with big coco smart pots and blumats is the lack of temprature control deep in the middle. Hopefully this doesnt happen with the 3 gal pots. and yes i do water with heated nutes, but for whatever reason it was almost too cold to pull apart.

i want to say this again : the above weights are :
1) very wet
2) not fully trimmed
3) full of big stalks
so its only useful information for comparason of plant A to plant B.

I normally would expect to yield about double what i did, but then i normally use PGRs and have 4 plants per light. I have no real yield expectations on this harvest anyway (it was a learning process), its the next one that im interested in.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

And the missing 3 photos :

Clones taken today :

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Clones taken 4 weeks ago, topped. Will go into veg chamber next week :

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and drying :

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EDIT : and how awesome, i got 4 Agent Orange clones today !!!!!
 

St3ve

Member
sucks that you killed your yield on the heavily pruned plant. I'm sure you'll get better and better as you go along.

Ether way tho things look good.
 
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DaveTheNewbie

ok so i weighed up today, just curing now.

total : 296g = 10 ounces ... not very good at all.
if i had had 2 of the good plant instead of 1 good and 1 bad then total : 394g = 14 ounces ... still not stellar
but if i had 4 plants instead of 2 plants (all the good plant) then i would have total = 789g = 27 ounces ... stellar result.

with smaller smartpots i can be pretty sure i can keep all plants well watered, and im not going to prune a flowering plant ever again so getting 2 good plants is feasable.
and i honestly believe that having 4 plants instead of 2 will flat out double my yield.

querkle is not the greatest yielder, and the next batch of plants wernt vegged quite as long, but i would expect at least 20 ounces, which i would be more than happy with.

time will tell. and i have agent orange (a much better yielder) next veg round too :)
 
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