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[jerry111165]

BlueJayWay

At Day 43 there is a minimum of 14 days left and I usually let this strain go 10 weeks more or less.

Since this is not a professional strain so it probably doesn't follow the usual Dankdom Rules of Engagement or more likely I simply don't know what I'm doing.

CC

You'll be fine; just make sure you have "ample P", and keep it rootbound. Tsk tsk...

Edit - I almost forgot, make sure to check the pH of your runoff - you want it at 6.3, stop the N when you raise the P, and flush for the last 2 weeks. Advanced Nutrients is now making an excellent flushing agent - I won't flush without it.

Don't feel bad - we all had to start somewhere. Stick around and we'll try and teach you a thing or two.

Jerry

 

[Atlantic Allele]

Is this the right type of bentonite? I have seen calcium and sodium I would think calcium is the correct one or maybe there is no difference?

Bentonite, Volclay 325 Mesh : 50 Pound Bags

General A selectively-mined and processed sodium bentonite. Volclay 325 mesh
Description is a true micronized product that produces consistency and performance.
Functional Multi-purpose suspending, emulsifying, and binding agent used in industrial
Use applications where low grit and a small, dry particle size are required.
Chemical Dioctahedral smectite, an expanding layer silicate:
Formula (Na,Ca)0.33
(Al1.67Mg0.33)Si4O10(OH)2
.nH2O
Elemental Typical analysis – moisture free.
Composition
SiO2 63.02 %
Al2O3 21.08 %
Fe2O3 3.25 %
FeO 0.35 %
MgO 2.67 %
Na2O 2.57 %
CaO 0.65 %
Trace 0.72 %
LOI 5.64 %
Moisture Maximum 12% as shipped.
Dry Particle Minimum 96% passing 200 mesh (74 microns).
Size
Wet Particle Minimum 97% passing 200 mesh (74 microns).
Size Minimum 90% passing 325 mesh (44 microns).
pH 8.5 to 10.5 @ 5% solids.
Viscosity 12 cps minimum @ 6.25% solids.BENTONITE, Volclay 325 Mesh : 50 Pound Bags 325 MESH

 

[MrSterling]

Jerry, heehaw if you like, but root binding does appear to induce flowering in some plants. It makes some sense that a plant would begin prepping for seed production instead of attempting further top growth when there's no longer room for root growth. A plant that runs out of root space but continues to grow will eventually outgrow the ability of the root system to hold it upright.

 

[Neo 420]

Don't feel bad - we all had to start somewhere. Stick around and we'll try and teach you a thing or two.

Jerry

lmao!!

 

[gregor_mendel]

I've been puffin and pondering again(oh lord what a dangerous combination), is organic hydro possible as we understand it? Not out of an expensive bottle, but sustainably with my compost heaps and worm castings and such. I dipped my head into the organic hydro forum but it seems pretty bottled.

Check out the ppk thread in the hydro forum. I think that device with living soil may work. I will be doing this myself in about two months. It removes the perched water table from the main volume of the container, passively bottom waters, and actively top waters if you like.

 

[joedogsong]

Pardon my ignorance BlueJayWay, but what is foxtailing?

I agree that this style of gardening has brought me my best season yet.
Even though there is a large learning curve what surprises me is that I am actually remembering this stuff. My brain usually will listen but has a hard time remembering specifics, this stuff just seems like a natural so its easy to remember...must be good.

 

[joedogsong]

You'll be fine; just make sure you have "ample P", and keep it rootbound. Tsk tsk...

Edit - I almost forgot, make sure to check the pH of your runoff - you want it at 6.3, stop the N when you raise the P, and flush for the last 2 weeks. Advanced Nutrients is now making an excellent flushing agent - I won't flush without it.

Don't feel bad - we all had to start somewhere. Stick around and we'll try and teach you a thing or two.

Jerry

Yo Jerry, have you even read this thread? Or is this tongue in cheek comedy?

 

[jerry111165]

Pardon my ignorance BlueJayWay, but what is foxtailing?

I agree that this style of gardening has brought me my best season yet.
Even though there is a large learning curve what surprises me is that I am actually remembering this stuff. My brain usually will listen but has a hard time remembering specifics, this stuff just seems like a natural so its easy to remember...must be good.

Hi Joe.

Fox tailing is when a mature bud is allowed to continue flowering and it starts pushing out even more flower parts that kinda look like a foxtail - I guess lol - ya know you're good and mature when your foxtails start pushing out foxtails

It's the bud growth that pushes out of your buds when they are totally mature.

Foxtails on top of foxtails..

Boy is that a really crappy explanation - sorry lol

J

 

[jerry111165]

Yo Jerry, have you even read this thread? Or is this tongue in cheek comedy?

Joe it's nice to meet you...lol

It was a funny Joe. CC and I go back a couple of years; he's taught me a thing or two - or a lot more.

J

 

[BlueJayWay]

Pardon my ignorance BlueJayWay, but what is foxtailing?

I agree that this style of gardening has brought me my best season yet.
Even though there is a large learning curve what surprises me is that I am actually remembering this stuff. My brain usually will listen but has a hard time remembering specifics, this stuff just seems like a natural so its easy to remember...must be good.

I second that, what I put in bold!

Jerry pretty much explained the foxtailing, better than you think Jerry lol

BUT it does give me an opportunity to show you guys this little beast, and it's the plant I was specifically referring too. Unsure whether the strain has a natural tendency to foxtail (is that the real term for this expression, or the stoner term? ), or the heat I'm getting for my two month summer or maybe I went a little crazy with kelp or something (literally just my 2nd plant, clone of the seed plant).

I can rule out or confirm heat over the next run or two as it will cool dramatically here and with no AC I will top out in the low 70's usually.

Anways, here's the tasty little foxtail, it's @ 62 days, there are some wild foxtails pictures floating around here as well.

And the plant as a whole, it's only 12" tall or so, I can't wait to veg a few quite a bit longer so it gets 36" tall maybe with a dozen of these fat colas

 

[joedogsong]

Thanks for the clarity Jerry, It did seem kind of odd, or out of place with intelligent post followed with questionable relative input.

OK, I know the foxtailing, made me wonder if they were really finished, then that top pops a few more goodies...

Thanks

 

[ClackamasCootz]

It's the 2nd one

Side note: I just ordered some Buffaloam!

BW

There's definitely nothing wrong at all with the peat moss you're using.

RE: BuffaLoam

I have a close friend who told me about this several months ago and I know him to be a solid gardener. I recommended this to a newer gardener and he used this in his soil mix. He wrote last week and told me that he's bored, i.e. there's nothing to do. I think that if you used these 2 products you will have a very successful garden.

HTH

CC

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Thanks, yeah you probably don't know what you're doing!

ignorance is bliss - Sum Fungi

 

[ClackamasCootz]

How much silica are you adding to that?

So far I have stuck to spraying silica but your method sounds better.

The Pro-TeKt label recommends 1/4 tsp. per gallon which is fine but I'm not really sure where they pulled that number from.

I use 1 tsp. to 1 gallon of water or whatever. Given the mobility issues with Silica in this form I don't feel that it's a problem. If it were Magnesium or Phosphorus then that would be another situation......

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I can rule out or confirm heat over the next run or two as it will cool dramatically here and with no AC I will top out in the low 70's usually.

Anways, here's the tasty little foxtail, it's @ 62 days, there are some wild foxtails pictures floating around here as well.


And the plant as a whole, it's only 12" tall or so, I can't wait to veg a few quite a bit longer so it gets 36" tall maybe with a dozen of these fat colas

I always assumed that it was heat-related based on experience from a 2 year sentence where I had to live and operate in Barstow - America's point of entry for its next hi-colonic

 

[jerry111165]

I never thought about it being a temperature thing. There's no doubt that it happens when the flowers are quite mature - but perhaps it is. I'll keep an eye on it as well.

J

 

[BlueJayWay]

I always assumed that it was heat-related based on experience from a 2 year sentence where I had to live and operate in Barstow - America's point of entry for its next hi-colonic

Or Armpit of america, or butthole of america or pit-stop to vegas..... or is that Victorville? or San Bernardino? I feel for you man, the living in barstow part :shudder:

I'm leaning toward the heat related as well, I get heat that is just barely manageable with no AC, only for 2 months tops, and it's kinda happening across the board with all strains, to a certain extent anyways, so I'm looking forward to confirming this and for the cooler weather to finally return, I love snow outside, icicles hanging off the roof, and a garden-heated house all winter

 

[Scrappy4]

Joe it's nice to meet you...lol

It was a funny Joe.

J

Oh, ha ha ha..... Jerry put down the joint, your smoking that shit again, ain't you?

 

[joedogsong]

So I'm dealing with a nearby forest fire of Junipers, Pine, sage, and other assorted ground cover. My plants are covered in ash daily.
Anyone have any insight as to what the plants may be absorbing?
I'm washing it off with the yucca, citrus oil, aloe & kelp rinse but with only 4 weeks left the buds are gonna be getting sticky and I really don't want ashy bud.
Thanks
JDS

 

[Scrappy4]

So I'm dealing with a nearby forest fire of Junipers, Pine, sage, and other assorted ground cover. My plants are covered in ash daily.
Anyone have any insight as to what the plants may be absorbing?
I'm washing it off with the yucca, citrus oil, aloe & kelp rinse but with only 4 weeks left the buds are gonna be getting sticky and I really don't want ashy bud.
Thanks
JDS

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Wow, that's something you don't hear everyday. Can you cover them? Filter the air? even crudely filtered might help. Maybe an automatic mister set up on a schedual could help, just throwing stuff out there I'm pretty stumped.......scrappy