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JBL ProFlora Ph Controller

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speedemon

Hey Guys,

Has anybody had experience with one of these? As controlling the PH in my new U/C system is turning into a right PITA.
This could be the answer but for £200 I need to be sure its going to do the job? Cheers :tiphat::ying::ying:


The latest digital measuring and monitoring technology from JBL measures the pH level and temperature reliably. It also regulates the pH level & supply of CO2 fully automatically.

This complete appliance including the integral valve operates at 12 volt safety low voltage making it very safe!

Product features:

Integral precision solenoid valve.
Separate sensor for pH level and temperature.
Modern graphics display.
Sensor test for each application.
Fault diagnosis for failure in calibration.
Permanent display of pH, actual and optimum values, sensor voltage, temperature, calibration in days and hours, valve status & lots more.
Two options for optimum level settings: any optimum level can be selected or can be calculated automatically by the auto pH).
Automatic temperature compensation for measurements & calibration.
Hysteresis (deviation above and below the switching point) can be easily selected.
Key lock with password stopping anyone tampering with the device.
pH alarm function (range alarm).
Temperature alarm function (range alarm).
Optional valve status.
Display brightness and contrast infinitely variable.
Key Features:

Graphics display showing all necessary information, with integral solenoid valve.
Automatically calculates pH levels for optimum CO2 content.
Alarm function gives warning of incorrect levels.
Wall mounting for easy installation.
Package Contains:
CO2/pH control 12 V+ measuring and display device.
Wall mount.
Universal power unit.
Temperature sensor.
50 ml each of buffer solution pH7 and pH 4.
50 ml storage and revitalisation solution for pH sensor.
50 ml de-ionised water.
CH Test Set.
3 calibration trays with handy stands.
 

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slim blue

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Hey Guys,

Has anybody had experience with one of these? As controlling the PH in my new U/C system is turning into a right PITA.
This could be the answer but for £200 I need to be sure its going to do the job? Cheers :tiphat::ying::ying:


The latest digital measuring and monitoring technology from JBL measures the pH level and temperature reliably. It also regulates the pH level & supply of CO2 fully automatically.

This complete appliance including the integral valve operates at 12 volt safety low voltage making it very safe!

Product features:

Integral precision solenoid valve.
Separate sensor for pH level and temperature.
Modern graphics display.
Sensor test for each application.
Fault diagnosis for failure in calibration.
Permanent display of pH, actual and optimum values, sensor voltage, temperature, calibration in days and hours, valve status & lots more.
Two options for optimum level settings: any optimum level can be selected or can be calculated automatically by the auto pH).
Automatic temperature compensation for measurements & calibration.
Hysteresis (deviation above and below the switching point) can be easily selected.
Key lock with password stopping anyone tampering with the device.
pH alarm function (range alarm).
Temperature alarm function (range alarm).
Optional valve status.
Display brightness and contrast infinitely variable.
Key Features:

Graphics display showing all necessary information, with integral solenoid valve.
Automatically calculates pH levels for optimum CO2 content.
Alarm function gives warning of incorrect levels.
Wall mounting for easy installation.
Package Contains:
CO2/pH control 12 V+ measuring and display device.
Wall mount.
Universal power unit.
Temperature sensor.
50 ml each of buffer solution pH7 and pH 4.
50 ml storage and revitalisation solution for pH sensor.
50 ml de-ionised water.
CH Test Set.
3 calibration trays with handy stands.

Sounds fancy. Will it water the plants and cut out the human error?

If not Don't bother.

It is much less hassle and less expensive to use a nutrient line designed for use in that type of system with a big pH drift.


All that gimmick toy will do is tell you it is an expensive unnecessary piece of evidence to be caught with which gets you frustrated every time you see it . You don't need it do you?
 

roll it large

Coco-grower
Veteran
I can't see that being much help mate tbh co2 will lower airstones gunna raise it back up



you got hard or soft water how old is the mix now how big is the swing?

nh4 ammonium nitrate messes with ph in certain water types hence why some nutes work better for others and some don't

I know you like gh nutes but maybe think about giving the plant magic a try it should be more stable it's made for our water

pm recommend hardwater nutes for 0.4ec or above

its cheaper than 200 quid mate worth a try
 
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speedemon

Ph comes out of the tap at 7.0 and the background e.c is 0.24. The ph in the system before adding plants was 6.8 and I PH down it to 5.8 then the same evening it go's back to 6.8. The plants are looking healthy with healthy roots and I have read that as the root system develops the PH will stabilise, so I think I will just keep bringing it down until then and be patient lol. I am not using any airstones now mate as I have 3 waterfalls flooming into the brain tank and a 3000 lph inline pump recircing them, so I am happy with the dissolved oxygen :) I also have an aquarium chiller keeping water temps at 20c, as well as a UV Filter in the brain. Once I run out of my GHE nutes I might give PM a try :)
 
S

speedemon

Found this now which is useful :)

Guide to UK Water Hardness

Key
S - Soft
MS - Moderately Soft
SH - Slightly Hard
MH - Moderately Hard
H - Hard
VH - Very Hard


Argyll Scotland S
Asbourne Severn-Trent MS-H
Avon and Dorset Wessex H
Ayrshire Scotland S
Birmingham Severn-Trent S-VH
Bolton North West S
Bournemouth Wessex H
Bristol Wessex H-VH
Cambridge Anglia SH-H
Carlisle North West MS
Cheshire-Mid North West MS-H
Chester North West SH-H
Chiltern Thames VH
Clyde-Lower Scotland S
Colne Valley North West H-VH
Corby & District North West H
Cumbria S North West S - MH
Cumbria West North West S
Derbyshire North Severn-Trent S-H
Derbyshire South Severn-Trent MH
Derwent Valley Severn-Trent S
East Anglia Anglia H-VH
Eastbourne Southern SH-VH
Eden North West S-MH
Essex Anglia S-VH
Exeter South West S-H
Fife and Kinross Scotland S-VH
Folkestone and District Southern S-VH
Fylde North West S-SH
Gloucester Severn-Trent and Thames MH-VH
Guernsey SH
Hampshire Central Southern H
Hampshire North Southern H
Hampshire West Southern H
Hartlepool Northumbrian H-VH
Invernesshire Scotland S-MH
Ireland Eastern S-H
Ireland Northern MS
Ireland Southern S-VH
Ireland Western MS
Isle of White SH-H
Jersey MH
Kent Southern H
Kent East Southern H
Kent Mid Southern SH-VH
Kent West Southern MS
Lakes & Lune North West S
Lambourne Thames SH-VH
Lanarkshire North West S-VH
Lancashire North West S-VH
Lee Valley Thames VH
Leicester Severn-Trent MH-VH
Liverpool North West S-SH
Loch Lomond Scotland Scotland S
Loch Turret Scotland S
London-Metropolitan Thames MH-VH
Lune Valley North West S-SH
Macclesfield North West MS-H
Makerfield North West S-MH
Manchester North West S
Mersey Valley North West S-VH
Montgomery Severn-Trent S-MH
Newcastle and Gatehead Northumbrian MH
Nottingham Severn-Trent MS-MH
Northumberland and Tyne Northumbrian SH
Nuneaten Severn-Trent SH-VH
Pennine-West North West S-MS
Plymouth South West S-SH
Preston and District North West S
Rickmansworth & Uxbridge Valley Thames H-VH
Salop Severn-Trent H
Salop Severn Trent H
Scilly Isles MH
Scotland Mid Scotland S-MH
Scotland- North Scotland S-VH
Scotland North East Scotland S
Scotland South East Scotland S-H
Scotland South West Scotland S-MH
Sherwood Severn Trent MH-VH
Somerset Wessex S-VH
Stafford Severn Trent H-VH
Staffordshire South Severn Trent H-VH
St Helens North West SH
Stockport North West S
Sunderland
South Shields Northumbrian MS-VH
Surrey East Thames MS
Surrey North Thames H-VH
Sussex Southern H
Sussex East Southern MS
Sussex Mid Southern S-H
Sussex North West Southern MS-VH
Sutton District Thames SH
Tees Northumbrian S-MS
Tendring Hundred Anglia H
Truro South West S-SH
Vales Thames MS-VH
Warwickshire Severn Trent MH-VH
Wear Northumbrain S
Wiltshire Thames H
Wolverhampton Severn Trent SH-VH
Worcestshire-North Severn Trent S-VH
Worcestshire-South Severn Trent MS-H
Wrexham and East
Denbighshire Welsh SH
York Yorkshire H
 
S

speedemon

nice find speeds

hardwater for us both then my local store says ours is soft

peace

Yep my local store says the same and has sold me soft water nutes which is the problem I think. I never had a problem with the coco though probably because of the buffering.:tiphat::ying::ying:
 

SupaFunk

Well-known member
Veteran
Just out of interest, my mate has switched over to drippers (rtw) and and airstone. What's the best way to run this and keep on top of the ph?

I suggested putting the airstone on a timer, (say 1hr in 3) instead of running 24/7. Would this slow the rise in ph??

Cheers chaps.
 

roll it large

Coco-grower
Veteran
ditch the airstone and use a small pump in the res to cause a ripple on the surface water you will get more oxygen that way and less rise in ph

peace
 
S

speedemon

As My mate RIL says flooming with a pump creates more dissolved oxygen in the res and does not mess with the PH.
 

SupaFunk

Well-known member
Veteran
RIL / Speed,

So in effect, he could use a similar pump to what's running his drippers? As long as it's moving the water/causing ripple then should suffice?

Thanks for the suggestion guys, much appreciated. I shall pass on the info when I see him tomorrow.
 
S

speedemon

That's it mate face the pump jet up in the bottom of the res causing the water movement ;)
 

SupaFunk

Well-known member
Veteran
Speed / RIL, you'll love this...

So, went to see mate re pump. He says thanks.

Anyhow, he opens up the res, which is only about 1/4 full, sits pump in middle as instructed and tells me to 'fire her up.'

Fire up she did. With a huge spunking jet of stinking nute water all over my mate.

Full-on nute bukkake sesh. He took it like a pro.

I'm still hurting from laughing. This was like 3 hours ago.

So lesson learned. Make sure res filled properly before engaging pumps. :)
 
S

speedemon

Speed / RIL, you'll love this...

So, went to see mate re pump. He says thanks.

Anyhow, he opens up the res, which is only about 1/4 full, sits pump in middle as instructed and tells me to 'fire her up.'

Fire up she did. With a huge spunking jet of stinking nute water all over my mate.

Full-on nute bukkake sesh. He took it like a pro.

I'm still hurting from laughing. This was like 3 hours ago.

So lesson learned. Make sure res filled properly before engaging pumps. :)

FROPMSL :laughing::laughing: Lol I did forget to say make sure the res is full before doing this LMAO was it 1000 lph pump?? as that would have been some jet :laughing::ying:
 

SupaFunk

Well-known member
Veteran
I'm actually really glad you didn't warn me. I'll be able to rip my mate for ever over this! :)
 

habeeb

follow your heart
ICMag Donor
Veteran
If I were you, and I was doing hydro

bluelab doser. would control everything.. but then what would you do in the garden, and why garden then
 
S

speedemon

If I were you, and I was doing hydro

bluelab doser. would control everything.. but then what would you do in the garden, and why garden then

Thanks mate, and yeah your right I had decided against it after all, specially after seeing the price tag £1390.00 :tiphat:
 

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