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To all who have tried 12/12 from seed

Floridian

Active member
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You're all a bunch of dumbasses,and now so am I lol!I seriously misjudged the amount of erb I have and I'm definately down to a couple months worth and just started a dinafem/ Paradise seeds fem grow but I'm looking at close to 4 months from germination.I have some regular amsterdam flame freebies that I want to grow from seed so all who have done it,please throw your two cents in.Is it better to veg for a week or so then go to 12/12?Should I veg until first node them top it?Would I get an oz on a good yielding indica? That sort of thing.Any tips would be appreciated.
 

LokiLoki

Member
If youre doing a rolling sog with multiple grow sites 12/12 from seed/clone is nice if you wanna harvest more often.
If youre not in a hurry or not doing a sog i wouldnt recommend 12/12 from seed.
 

shawkmon

Pleasantly dissociated
Veteran
you must never grown 1212 from seed cause it doesnt take 4 months, ive had sexy weed in as fast as 75 days from seed. 85 days is about average. if yer out ya can always take a few sample nugs. the more seeds ya plant, the more weed ya can smoke !
 

WelderDan

Well-known member
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Some things do better than others going straight into 12/12. I've had some that shot up over 3 feet when flipped on the 2nd or third node, and other stuff that grew basically a bud on a stick.

YMMV

Strain, distance from light source and other environmental variables all play a part, but it's a crap shoot IMO
 

Avinash.miles

Caregiver Extraordinaire
Moderator
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lol, i love ur first post, u r an idiot and so am i!!
also there is 12/1 veg light schedule, not sure how it works on seeds tho.
 

señorsloth

Senior Member
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i am not a dumbass...and your question makes no sense...one thing is clear, you need to do a lot more reading, how long you veg and if you top are based on individual grow conditions and there is no "best" way to do it...and there is nothing wrong with 12-12 from seed...seriously, just do more reading, both on the subjects of the English language, and growing marijuana, so that your next question might actually be relevant and intelligible...
 

medmaker420

The Aardvarks LED Grow Show
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indica dominate strains usually will end up under 2 feet and unless you have a TON crammed in there it is best to at least get a week of veg but even then do not count your first week until the "seed" has its first set of true leaves.

a hybrid can do well as will a sativa ( might take longer to flower due to being sativa though ). With the hybrid sativa/indica mix in a sog it can do well but don't expect an ounce per plant. What wattage are we talking here btw?
 

yortbogey

To Have More ... Desire Less
Veteran
yes, 12/12 from seed is not for yeild, but instead designed to increase the turn over in OVER_ALL number of cycles in a year /65 day time frame....
the dutch noticed they could fit 1 additional cycle in a calender year doing this way....

to eACH there own....
 

red rider

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I haven’t grown anything indoors and I live in Colombia (@9,000ft) where it’s 12/12 year round. I did try to experiment with a CFL with some very indica strains. But just didn’t have the space for them in the house. However the indica strains grown outside here from seed, under the high altitude equatorial sun would produce one cola 12” plants. All were very potent and tasty but little yield compared to my pure or hybrid sativa’s.
Peace from Colombia
 

Floridian

Active member
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Thanks man I'm at around 13/11 here and if put a clone outside it flowers immediately.I think I'll veg it until the third node then go 12/12,if I think my erb can hold out lol.I know some strains gain and some lose by topping I'll probably just let them grow unfettered
 

señorsloth

Senior Member
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yes, 12/12 from seed is not for yeild, but instead designed to increase the turn over in OVER_ALL number of cycles in a year /65 day time frame....
the dutch noticed they could fit 1 additional cycle in a calender year doing this way....

to eACH there own....
I disagree, 12/12 from seed can yeild just as much as a conventional SOG, which can easily reach a gram per watt or more, it's all about spacing and numbers, 12/12 from seed can yield very well as long as you run a very tight sog spacing. and a conventional sog with clones will have a faster turnaround and the most "harvests per year" because clones flower a week faster than from seed, and almost 2 weeks faster from 12/12 from seed.


Gee senior nobody else seemed to get confused.What does my time growing have to do with anything?You are a dumbass man.I'm sure many other growers havent done 12/12 by seed its just the situation I find myself in.God some people have such large mouths and just shouldnt be involved except for the safety of hiding behind a keyboard.Ask Trouble a real longtime member How much I grow you fuckin punk
ha! you start your first question by calling us all "dumbasses" which from the context of your terribly worded question would leave the average person thinking you tried 12/12 from seed and was disappointed from your results so you are now calling everybody that has grown 12-12 from seed a dumbass because you didn't get the results you wanted. you then throw in some more unrelated questions...like whether to top or how long too veg...wich since i now gather you haven't done 12/12 from seed and are planning too, those questions don't make sense because they aren't part of a 12/12 from seed program. there is no vegging in 12/12 and there is no topping, thats why it's called 12/12! they flower right away without vegging.

i did not call you names, although i see you have done so three times now, i tried to help you, knowledge is power and reading more will solve all of your problems...but since you decided to instead just call me names and claim your English must be fine because a few good people were nice enough to try to interpret your confusingly written 5th grade level English question...well lets just say i'm less inclined to help you at that point. and then, after asking questions most average growers already know, you claim you know so much about growing reading more would be pointless and try to cite internet references to your growing experience?! believe it or not i really don't care...your actions are childish and don't deserve an adult response...

did your mother teach you that its ok to call people "dumbass", "fucking punk" and telling people they have a large mouth because they told you to read more? when you go to school and they tell you to study more, are they "fucking punks"?

judging by your English skills i would guess you probably did tell them that but the point is you could find all the info you want and more with a simple google search or by looking on this site, thats what i meant when i said "read!", i can't understand what you are asking except that i can tell they are fairly basic questions that have been answered many times over and are pretty easy to look up.

i have grown 12/12 from seed many times and if you look at my grow you will see that im pretty good at getting a decent yeild from tightly spaced sea of green style grows with very short plants...i probably could have helped you but i refuse to help somebody who can't take the time to show this board a little respect, use your spell check, if you expect answers to questions make sure they are clearly written so everybody can understand, and of course don't insult people who tell you the info is already out there and to go READ!
 

exploziv

pure dynamite
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@ Floridian & señorsloth

Remember this is a place where we learn, share knowledge and generally have a good time. Please focus on the topic, and get along with each other.
Thanks for understanding! :wave:
 

DankSide

Member
12/12 from seed works best with sativa or sativa dominant hybrids. You could do a pole plant indica SOG on 12/12 as well. Takes planning either way. Only reason I see for it though would be to immediately flower a sativa with a long flowering time in order to shorten your time to harvest. Wattage matters too. Higher your wattage, the better results from 12/12 from seed.
 

Go-Rilla Grow

New member
Under 1000k horizontal I've grown a Tangerine Dream, Crystal METH, Brooklyn Mango and Sweet Mango Auto, all from seed on 12/12.
All yielded only a couple ounces per plant but they finished almost exactly on 3 months from seed. Good for a quick grow but not good for volume.
I'm going vert this grow and have already vegged a Big Bud for 6 weeks, a KC Brains Mango, Brooklyn Mango and C99 for 4 weeks.
12/12 is produces good quality smoke quickly but the plants definitely grow much smaller than if allowed to veg a while.
 
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