That one looks like a little tree. Well a three foot bushy tree.
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Mister D's Vertical Redemption
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Almost missed your post buddy. I have thought about angling the pots, but I think I have better idea. I bought a couple 4x10' panels of hog fence (4"x4" thick galvanized wire fence). Plan is to form a couple cylinders out of the fence, hang it from the ceiling inside the racks and train/support the plants with that. I'm debating if I even want to install it this round because most of the plants are too short to bent over and trained how I want. As for wrapping the backs of the racks, better read a little closer. I spray adhesived orca film to all of the racks when I built them
. Interesting about the white paint also. I'm not convinced the ocra is reflecting any better than the paint, so I bought a light meter. Should be here next week, and maybe we'll all learn something. Hopefully it's not that I wasted 85 bucks on orca...
.Anyway, looks tight... But I'm not scurred....
You have some time to get your shit together
. I'm still building my room, and sorting some new genetics. Just know, once I find my new momma and monocrop that bitch, it's game over player 
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DHF
You know....I`ve always had good results from reflectix for it`s reflective qualities , but moreso for it`s radiant barrier/insulative properties that helped control environment .......
It`s bubble wrapped insulation that bounced lumens up , down , and all around my bloom rooms for yrs and yrs after Heath told me about it......so.....IME....
It`s not so much reflectivity as it`s more about light dispersement/diffusion , and plant acceptance/lumen absorption from light bouncin off the lil bubbles everywhere FTW.....
Reflectix did that for me and hey.....shit don`t last forever.....upgrade and replace it as needed......still not a better product I`ve seen , but I`m predjudiced from usin the shit....anyways....
Peace....DHF....
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It`s bubble wrapped insulation that bounced lumens up , down , and all around my bloom rooms for yrs and yrs after Heath told me about it......so.....IME....
It`s not so much reflectivity as it`s more about light dispersement/diffusion , and plant acceptance/lumen absorption from light bouncin off the lil bubbles everywhere FTW.....
Reflectix did that for me and hey.....shit don`t last forever.....upgrade and replace it as needed......still not a better product I`ve seen , but I`m predjudiced from usin the shit....anyways....
Peace....DHF....
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Shit, you guys probably already know this.. ya gotta have reflective whatever, everywhere! With my tent I can open up a side flap and it'll look like the back side of my plants are shaded, but if I'm in the tent with everything closed.. everywhere is lit up like Fred says.
I just had a 5 gallon bucket tip over because of the damn leanin vertical plants.. got some turface between my toes. That's what I get for allowing the buckets to dry out a little bit so I could move em for some pruning. Damn blumats and top heavy plants :[
I just had a 5 gallon bucket tip over because of the damn leanin vertical plants.. got some turface between my toes. That's what I get for allowing the buckets to dry out a little bit so I could move em for some pruning. Damn blumats and top heavy plants :[
The filter screen is 150 mesh. Not sure what that is in microns? Yea i'm thinking it's all down to giving each element time to mix throughly into solution before adding the next product. That and keeping the thread tape out of your res. Well in my case anyway
Its somewhere between 110 and 115 microns I think, 140 is a standard size around here and works out to 105 microns.
Water solubles mix best before adding the oil or petroleum based sht. At least thats what works best for pesticides if ya dont want clogged nozzles.
Your gals are looking awesome, I will definitely be lurking every chance I get! K, I will shut the hell up now!
Mini update because I can't seem to get all the pics uploaded atm .
Hopefully this is enough to finish filling the veg room. 20 1/2 blocks. Have 10 bags of floor dry that will be included in the mix also.
Grabbed a new ph pen. Just have a feeling my old one is about to fuck up. It's 5-6 years old, but after comparing it to the new one it's still right on.
12 gal. of nutes. Guessing about enough for two grows.
. Hopefully this is enough to finish filling the veg room. 20 1/2 blocks. Have 10 bags of floor dry that will be included in the mix also.
Grabbed a new ph pen. Just have a feeling my old one is about to fuck up. It's 5-6 years old, but after comparing it to the new one it's still right on.
12 gal. of nutes
. Guessing about enough for two grows.
village green
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Feels good don't it? Like being stocked up for the winter.
So true i also have bin stocking up everytime i hit the store's Just hate middle of winter and you got soil in line at a store kinda looks obvious lol
DHF - I really like the orca on a whole. It feels like thicker tyvek (strong stuff), light tight, reflects well (I got my light meter, going to see if paint is better), supposedly can be washed repeatedly with cleaners, etc. Refletix is good stuff, but I think orca will probably hold up better over time. All really comes down to a persons intended application as to which is a better choice. For me it will come down to what reflects more light.
Catman - Ya most of us old timers got the shiny shit everywhere. It is a very important part of the yield picture.
Hazed - Share anything you like bro. You're full of great information, put that shit down.
Village - Honestly i'd feel better if I had another 20 bricks. All of this and possibly a few more blocks are already spoken for. Nice thing about coco is it's ability to be reused, so I shouldn't need any new media for awhile. Wouldn't mind having a couple 55 gal. drums of nutes either, then i'd feel stocked up
Catman - Ya most of us old timers got the shiny shit everywhere
. It is a very important part of the yield picture.Hazed - Share anything you like bro
. You're full of great information, put that shit down.Village - Honestly i'd feel better if I had another 20 bricks
. All of this and possibly a few more blocks are already spoken for. Nice thing about coco is it's ability to be reused, so I shouldn't need any new media for awhile. Wouldn't mind having a couple 55 gal. drums of nutes either, then i'd feel stocked up I am finding it harder and harder to reuse my coco. just running out of time to sift out the root. How are you accomplishing this?
Ich - At my other spot where everything is organic, I just break up the root ball and reuse the media in another pot, roots and all. Using straight chems things get slightly more involved. First thing to do with either organic or chem is make sure your media is exhausted of as much nute content as possible before chopping the plant. This allows you to start fresh so to speak in the nutrient sense. You don't want a bunch of bloom nutes left over when you plant a new clone. This is much less of an issue if you are using one formula for veg and flower and keeping ppms low, but still important as you don't want to burn/cause imbalances in your new clones/seedlings. Now assuming you've chopped the plant there are couple ways to proceed. 1. you can screen out the roots (time consuming) or 2. you can spend 6 bucks on a bottle of pond enzymes. Take said enzymes, mix them up per label instructions (something like 5 drops in 10 gals of water) and soak all of your pots with enzymes. Wait a week or three for the roots to be eaten (guessing it depends somewhat on ambient temps), break up the media/or not, fill pot, transplant, done. You could even just sift out the larger bits of roots, replant and feed the enzymes for a couple weeks while the new plants are growing.
howdy brotha D what organic nutes do you use? thought i saw GH's General Organics somewhere in your thread? still runnin' those? i'm kinda thinkin' bout foolin with some organics one of these days...you see definite differences in smells/tastes/colors...your patients prefer them over chem? also you ever run promix? saw a guy usin sunshine mix 4 and killin' it...trees...all organic as well...he swears his end result is way better than his chem runs...turns out my local store is now carrying the BIG bale of sunshine 4 advanced with Mycos and other goodies...the BIG bale is $50 bucks...i really like the label and packaging...very inviting
what organic nutes do you use? thought i saw GH's General Organics somewhere in your thread? still runnin' those? i'm kinda thinkin' bout foolin with some organics one of these days...you see definite differences in smells/tastes/colors...your patients prefer them over chem? also you ever run promix? saw a guy usin sunshine mix 4 and killin' it...trees...all organic as well...he swears his end result is way better than his chem runs...turns out my local store is now carrying the BIG bale of sunshine 4 advanced with Mycos and other goodies...the BIG bale is $50 bucks...i really like the label and packaging...very inviting 
I am going to assume you like the CocoGro
My local store stocks it now so I picked one up to check it out. I plan to mix it with the B'cuzz coco I use now. Any suggestions for decompressing it? I have never used bricked coco before.
My local store stocks it now so I picked one up to check it out. I plan to mix it with the B'cuzz coco I use now. Any suggestions for decompressing it? I have never used bricked coco before.
Bonz - What it do brother? Smokin yourself stupid on that orge ? I use bio bizz grow, bloom, and alg-a-mic at the big garden, in a coco, castings, floor dry, coco chip mix. Might have some residual promix left over from years back. This mix has been reused and added to every cycle for the last 4 years, so hard to say what to call it exactly. Started as straight promix, then the castings, perlite, floor dry, coco, and chips started getting mixed in. Mostly coco at this point though. I see a pronouced difference in taste and smell with organics, with bio bizz especially . Yes my patients can definitely tell the difference and prefer the organic everytime. In fact that's why I havn't used chems in years, and intend to switch to PBP after the stretch period is over in this garden. I didn't see any change in yield or potency switching to organics, like many have claimed (In fact i'm hitting 2+ per 600 with bio biz so ya....). The effect is a bit more enjoyable in my opinion because I really get into the experience of smoking, and the improved smell and taste profile adds another layer of enjoyment to the experience as a whole. Anyway as for the general organics, I only got one good crop in with them (next one had root aphids). With that limited experience they seem to work just fine. End product was very tastey and considering the room setup at the time yield was right where I would expect it to be. I used it in happy frog and then in coco, worked fine for both. No problems running it through drippers. As long as I added a splash of em-1 the res was fine for about 5-6 days before going stagnant. I'm biased towards bio bizz, but either nute will work very well with coco or promix/sunshine, etc. Let me know if you want some more specific advice if that's the route you want to take.
Maj - Ya i've grown kind of fond of the cocogro. What I like to do is:
1. Get a 27 gal tough tote from home de pot (or similar sturdy container)
2. 30 gal smart pot (any fabric pot will work)
3. Put the smart pot inside the 27 gal. tote, then put the coco brick in the smart pot and fill the tote with water from your hose or bath tub, if you want use your hands to break up the clumps
4. Tip the tote and pull the smart pot (now full of expanded coco) out, and allow the excess water to drain away.
5. Now this is where you can take two different paths.
A. You can fill your pots and plant. (cocogro bricks are flushed and buffered just like the bagged stuff) Many people do this with zero problems.
B. If you are like me and just don't trust that every brick will be the same/acceptable, you can just flush water through the smart pot until the run off ec is the same as your starting water. Charge with nutes as usual, and plant.
? I use bio bizz grow, bloom, and alg-a-mic at the big garden, in a coco, castings, floor dry, coco chip mix. Might have some residual promix left over from years back. This mix has been reused and added to every cycle for the last 4 years, so hard to say what to call it exactly. Started as straight promix, then the castings, perlite, floor dry, coco, and chips started getting mixed in. Mostly coco at this point though. I see a pronouced difference in taste and smell with organics, with bio bizz especially . Yes my patients can definitely tell the difference and prefer the organic everytime. In fact that's why I havn't used chems in years, and intend to switch to PBP after the stretch period is over in this garden. I didn't see any change in yield or potency switching to organics, like many have claimed (In fact i'm hitting 2+ per 600 with bio biz so ya....). The effect is a bit more enjoyable in my opinion because I really get into the experience of smoking, and the improved smell and taste profile adds another layer of enjoyment to the experience as a whole. Anyway as for the general organics, I only got one good crop in with them (next one had root aphids). With that limited experience they seem to work just fine. End product was very tastey and considering the room setup at the time yield was right where I would expect it to be. I used it in happy frog and then in coco, worked fine for both. No problems running it through drippers. As long as I added a splash of em-1 the res was fine for about 5-6 days before going stagnant. I'm biased towards bio bizz, but either nute will work very well with coco or promix/sunshine, etc. Let me know if you want some more specific advice if that's the route you want to take.Maj - Ya i've grown kind of fond of the cocogro
. What I like to do is:1. Get a 27 gal tough tote from home de pot (or similar sturdy container)
2. 30 gal smart pot (any fabric pot will work)
3. Put the smart pot inside the 27 gal. tote, then put the coco brick in the smart pot and fill the tote with water from your hose or bath tub, if you want use your hands to break up the clumps
4. Tip the tote and pull the smart pot (now full of expanded coco) out, and allow the excess water to drain away.
5. Now this is where you can take two different paths.
A. You can fill your pots and plant. (cocogro bricks are flushed and buffered just like the bagged stuff) Many people do this with zero problems.
B. If you are like me and just don't trust that every brick will be the same/acceptable, you can just flush water through the smart pot until the run off ec is the same as your starting water. Charge with nutes as usual, and plant.
Thank you very much and I would rep you if I could, I will be back
Maj - You're welcome . Glad to help.
Drfever - Few things. First, my nute recipe compensates for the excess P in coco (Look into the "h3ad recipe" for more info on that). Second, my tap contains alot of calcium and a bit of mag already (0.6ec or 300ppm @.5). So I rarely need cal/mag added, I get it free from the tap. Third, flushing isn't required with cocogro. The chips i'm using have a high salt content, so I have to flush those. I flush everything anyway because it's not worth losing plants over a poorly rinsed batch of coco, and it eliminates that as a cause should problems arise. I just like to know and control exactly what's in my media from the start, old hydro habit.
. Glad to help.Drfever - Few things. First, my nute recipe compensates for the excess P in coco (Look into the "h3ad recipe" for more info on that). Second, my tap contains alot of calcium and a bit of mag already (0.6ec or 300ppm @.5). So I rarely need cal/mag added, I get it free from the tap
. Third, flushing isn't required with cocogro. The chips i'm using have a high salt content, so I have to flush those. I flush everything anyway because it's not worth losing plants over a poorly rinsed batch of coco, and it eliminates that as a cause should problems arise. I just like to know and control exactly what's in my media from the start, old hydro habit.
thanks D! i'm not ingesting any THC at the moment...(went to court yesterday) you get the idea...
dude...for some reason i'm being drawn to the Organic side of things
is your Bio-Biz line up simple? not too many additives and potions?
if ya dont mind me askin'...how do you run your other grow that ur gettin 2+ per 600? racks? donuts? flat?
thanks again brotha!
i'm not ingesting any THC at the moment...(went to court yesterday) you get the idea...dude...for some reason i'm being drawn to the Organic side of things
is your Bio-Biz line up simple? not too many additives and potions?if ya dont mind me askin'...how do you run your other grow that ur gettin 2+ per 600? racks? donuts? flat?
thanks again brotha!
