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Tony Aroma

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I've had fungus gnats before, on occasion. They come in the potting soil sometimes (especially Miracle-Gro), and after the first watering, a few fly around for a week or so, then they're gone. Not this time. Since the soil I use now rarely has any gnats, I think they were in the mushroom compost, which I guess makes sense if they are fungus gnats. I never used it before, and may not again. It's been over 3 weeks, and there still is a SWARM in my cabinet. They're flying around everywhere, and there are dead ones all over the bottom. I don't know if they're a problem for the plants or not. They don't eat the plants, but I've seen some places that say the larvae eat the roots. Plus they're just annoying. So yesterday I got a sticky trap, like a paper towel roll that's sticky on the outside. I put it down near the soil yesterday, and today it was covered in gnats. I mean, almost solid. So now I'm imagining the buds acting like a whole bunch of sticky traps. So they've really got to go (I'm only in the 4th week of veg, so I have some time).

On the bright side, the sticky trap greatly reduced the number of those buggers flying around. But as I understand it, that's just a temporary solution if I don't kill the eggs/larvae in the soil. I hesitate to use chemicals, and I can't find any of the organic treatments around here. So I put a layer of perlite over the top of the soil in the bags. That's supposed to prevent the gnats from getting to the soil to lay their eggs. We'll see.

Interesting thing about this mushroom compost, which I'm trying for the first time. In the bottom third of my grow bags I mixed about half and half, compost and my soil mixture. I always mix up the soil and start watering it when I start my seedlings, so it has a couple of weeks for the biological activity to get going (organic grow) before I transplant into it. This time, the next day after I'd watered the bags for the first time, the surface of the soil was covered in a white fungus. Reminded me of when I used to grow mushrooms back in college. It was gone in a couple of days, but I've never seen anything like that before.
 

yerboyblue

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Get Corey and Trevor to steal more sticky traps and some gnatrol. If they get stuck to the traps, they can't lay more eggs, so have enough traps for the next generation to get stuck to.
 

medmaker420

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another trick to do is to bottom feed the pots so that the top soil remains dry as far as the top 1-2 inches.
 

Tony Aroma

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Corey and Trevor are worthless. I know cats and dogs smarter than they are.

However, if the gnats don't disappear within a week or so, I guess I'm going to have to order Gnatrol or some other similar organic product (there are a few). If I could buy it locally, I already would have.
 

medicalmj

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Sticky traps are intended to only show the extent of pest pressure, not eliminate the pest. The grids are there so you can count how many per sq inch in specific time period.

DON'T underestimate these fuckers. Just one can lay up to 250 eggs that'll hatch and eat roots and spread disease! I have drenched with azamax every 3-5 days for couple weeks with good results. It slows feeding and prevents them from developing, but won't really kill them. Best early in first instar. If you wanna kill em and your not too close to harvest, there's some shit that'll contact kill...not sure if you wanna use the heavy shit tho.
 

Infinitesimal

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diatomaceous earth... beneficial nematodes... azatrol or pyganic as a last resort
 

Jaymer

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cover with sand, i use rocks now, less mess, and noticed gnats swarming the computer screen so you could leave a screen running and spray them with something.
 
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TribalSeeds

1)Walk into your grow room
2)Say out loud - " Im going to get some GoGnats tomorrow"
3)You dont really have to buy the GoGnats! Those fuckers are gonna be leaving overnight!
4)Only use 1/2 recommended dose on the GoGnats, then follow up with the second treatment as directed but half strength 2-3 days later.
5)If Gnatrol is made in CA, how is it also banned in CA? Its not allowed in any of the stores I go to...
 

ganja_hasi

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you will have to prevent the sliding of the lavrae in the surface of the substrate in order to stop
their reproductive cycle...you can deal with it effectively without using any chemicals
  1. use Nematoden,
    tinyworms that eat the larvae of midges, resulting immediate depopulation.
  2. coat the substrate surface (1cm) with perlite or highly sterile sand.
 
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BlueJayWay

As mentioned a couple times - grab some BENEFICIAL NEMATODES from a local nursery or a place online such as Arbico Organics. Easy, mix with water and then water :D They eat little fuckers @ the source, their larvae.
 

bobman

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not sure why everyone says perlite works. i grow in straight perlite and still get these fuckers. i think growing in perlite has kept the population low but i still get them.
 

Tony Aroma

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Almost two weeks later, and I think the gnats are almost a thing of the past. Between the perlite on top of the soil and the sticky traps (I'm on my second one after the first filled up completely), the number of flying gnats was reduced dramatically. While I was waiting to see what was going to happen, I ordered some Gnatrol. It arrived three days ago, and I treated the soil immediately. It's now down to just a few flying around, and I think that's going to be the last of them. What at PITA!
 

mr.brunch

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was just going to say, a good layer of perlite on top to keep the surface area drying quickly... no where for the little cnuts to lay their eggs needs to be moist for them.
see you got there first!
 

resinryder

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Do a drench with 1 tbsp Hydrogen Peroxide to every 3 cups of water. The hydrogen peroxide will eat up the larva. Just the regular old 3% you can pick up anywhere. Will not hurt the plants and will kill em off. Water with it when the soil is dry of course.
 

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