wikileaks assange gets political asylum

[bombadil.360]

The US Government and its agents promote death around the world on a daily basis, yet there in no call to cage the thugs.

We know the US Government ACTUALLY disappears people around the world, so why should any of us care if this one lone man MAY publish a document that jeopardises the RED WHITE and BLUE cia killers around the world? Isn't it the job of the killers to keep these documents out of his hands in the first place?

two wrongs don't make a right though.

so maybe there have been times when governments have made very bad choices and disappeared someone; does this give the right to wikileaks dude to risk people's lives?

the answer is obviously no, it does not.

and btw, people want to see anyone in a cage for 'disappearing' anyone unjustly, that's for sure; it's not like everyone decided to pick on wikileaks dude for leaking sensitive stuff just because it's cool...

 

[Hydrosun]

two wrongs don't make a right though.

so maybe there have been times when governments have made very bad choices and disappeared someone; does this give the right to wikileaks dude to risk people's lives?

the answer is obviously no, it does not.

and btw, people want to see anyone in a cage for 'disappearing' anyone unjustly, that's for sure; it's not like everyone decided to pick on wikileaks dude for leaking sensitive stuff just because it's cool...

I hear and understand that 2 wrongs don't make a right, and I personally may have published less or redacted some information. Even so I don't trust the government and will always stand beside the non-violent accused until PROVEN guilty of a REAL VIOLATION of NATURAL LAW, not some man made statute which is violated at whim by the government that created the immoral law in the first place.

Have there been ANY deaths attributed to these leaks, or did the USA just have to clean house and move their CIA killers to different parts of the globe?

I am pretty certain that the US Government killed 3,000+ people on 9/11/01 and used it as an excuse to kill hundreds of thousands more around the world in order to control oil supplies. Because of this demented belief it is really hard to get mad at ANYONE that tries to expose the EVIL of AmeriKa as she is now.

 

[BongToke]

the whole 911 thing is soo wack many many holes in that story.

People will soon realize and I think a revolution isnt too far in the future.

 

[bombadil.360]

I hear and understand that 2 wrongs don't make a right, and I personally may have published less or redacted some information. Even so I don't trust the government and will always stand beside the non-violent accused until PROVEN guilty of a REAL VIOLATION of NATURAL LAW, not some man made statute which is violated at whim by the government that created the immoral law in the first place.

Have there been ANY deaths attributed to these leaks, or did the USA just have to clean house and move their CIA killers to different parts of the globe?

I am pretty certain that the US Government killed 3,000+ people on 9/11/01 and used it as an excuse to kill hundreds of thousands more around the world in order to control oil supplies. Because of this demented belief it is really hard to get mad at ANYONE that tries to expose the EVIL of AmeriKa as she is now.

I bolded the part of your post with which we could agree on.

on the rest of the post I will not comment as there are many things that I do not agree with, so we'll agree to disagree on those ones.

be good!

 

[Hydrosun]

Have there been ANY deaths attributed to these leaks?

I hear the FEAR loud and clear from the media and sheep, but have there actually been any deaths?

 

[bombadil.360]

Have there been ANY deaths attributed to these leaks?

I hear the FEAR loud and clear from the media and sheep, but have there actually been any deaths?

as far as I'm aware, no, thanks goodness.

still, as you yourself have said, it was not wise to leak info without editing out names and other sensitive info that potentially could get someone killed.

it's like driving drunk, even if you do not cause an accident, it's still a pretty fucked up thing to do.

peace

 

[greenmatter]

if the government was not full of shit there would be no need for mr. assange. and if they were not so willing to shove our collective dicks into one hornets nest after another there would be nobody in harms way to die because we would not be there in the first place

the guy made some pretty fucked up things that our leaders do public knowledge ........ and we need to know even more.

i'm tired of the government pulling the back door shit that they do, and i have a hard time laying all the blame for anyone getting hurt on just assange no matter how much the assholes who actually PUT THAT PERSON THERE want me to believe it is all his fault

 

[Hydrosun]

it's like driving drunk, even if you do not cause an accident, it's still a pretty fucked up thing to do.

peace

I hear you, but isn't that the same argument they make about me cultivating a schedule I weed, even though I don't cause an accident? They still tell me it is a fucked up thing to do.

They also tell me it is a fucked up thing to operate machinery after consuming cannabis, despite my dr. recommending cannabis, and cannabis not impairing my driving abilities.

Because of these many inconsistencies I have lost respect for man made law. Natural law such as: do not steal, do not kill, and love they neighbor still ring true to my moral compass, but not the tens of thousands of other bull shit rules and laws made up by stupid old men.

 

[Sundance]

I am pretty certain that the US Government killed 3,000+ people on 9/11/01 and used it as an excuse to kill hundreds of thousands more around the world in order to control oil supplies. Because of this demented belief it is really hard to get mad at ANYONE that tries to expose the EVIL of AmeriKa as she is now.

Wow - you are out of your mind

i was going to start replying to your other posts - but this one did it for me

9/11 - " pretty certain that the government of the USA is behind that " - you could not be more of an ASSHOLE if you tried

That is a despicable thing to say - an insult to your government ... the country you live in ... that has given you everything ... including an opportunity at life- which you are squandering ... and mostly - its an insult to the 3000 people who died that day - their families and friends ... for that I say FUCK YOU TO HELL

Sundance

 

[Hydrosun]

Wow - you are out of your mind

i was going to start replying to your other posts - but this one did it for me

9/11 - pretty certain that the government of the USA is behind that - you could not be more of an ASSHOLE if you tried

That is a despicable thing to say - an insult to your government ... the country you like in ... that has given you everything ... including an opportunity at life- which you are squandering ... and mostly - its an insult to the 3000 people who died that day - their families and friends ... for that I say FUCK YOU TO HELL

Sundance

Yours is the typical corn feed, apple pie, best Kuntry in the world response that so many non AmeriKans love.

I used to think as you do, now I don't. You believe all the towers fell straight down and other buildings fell in perfect demolition fashion and eat all the apple pie you want.

I insult YOUR government and YOUR old me. I refuse any responsibility for what YOUR team did, but for you to clown around in public and claim 19 men caused the event and not the US government is awesome. That is the whole point of YOUR government and YOUR team. They will have you eating shit until you puke, and with every bight you thank them for the Apple pie.

Fuck me to hell is correct. I want to be with my gay friends, my non believer friends, and Gandhi. You take Ashcroft, Bush, and Chaney

I was born free and whole, the land of my birth has given me nothing. The land of my birth has had previous great thinkers such as Adams and Jefferson, yet I was left nothing in their wills only in their philosophies. You however seem to have been given something by this land and therefore you need to repay it with other men's sons, let the blood spill.

 

[Sundance]

Yours is the typical corn feed, apple pie, best Kuntry in the world response that so many non AmeriKans love.

I used to think as you do, now I don't. You believe all the towers fell straight down and other buildings fell in perfect demolition fashion and eat all the apple pie you want.

I insult YOUR government and YOUR old me. I refuse any responsibility for what YOUR team did, but for you to clown around in public and claim 19 men caused the event and not the US government is awesome. That is the whole point of YOUR government and YOUR team. They will have you eating shit until you puke, and with every bight you thank them for the Apple pie.

Fuck me to hell is correct. I want to be with my gay friends, my non believer friends, and Gandhi. You take Ashcroft, Bush, and Chaney

I was born free and whole, the land of my birth has given me nothing. The land of my birth has had previous great thinkers such as Adams and Jefferson, yet I was left nothing in their wills only in their philosophies. You however seem to have been given something by this land and therefore you need to repay it with other men's sons, let the blood spill.

Your a complete ASSHAT

Keep going down the path you are - see where that gets you

I feel nothing for someone like you except - pity

Lastly - I wont waste my time on someone like you

We all have to answer to ourselves ... to society ... and eventually to God

FUCK OFF

 

[Hydrosun]

Your vocabulary and depth of thought inspire me.

You could give a shit less about the 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians while simultaneously getting butt hurt over 3k Amerkans. Notice any hypocrisy there?

Look at your own FUCKING signature for fuck sake. And you call for blood death and war?

 

[Sundance]

Your vocabulary and depth of thought inspire me.

You could give a shit less about the 100,000 dead Iraqi civilians while simultaneously getting butt hurt over 3k Amerkans. Notice any hypocrisy there?

Look at your own FUCKING signature for fuck sake. And you call for blood death and war?

Your too much of a MORON to see the truth and/or which way is up - in anything

For America the war in Iraq was over in two days - so much of the killings were Iraqi on Iraqi, Sunni vs Shite, and a power grab by animals - not to mention the damage and mass killings iran is responsible for

I am thrilled sadamm is gone - however, America underestimated the hatred among these groups ... and that the hatred was stronger than the desire to come together, take control, and re-build their own country

Grow up

 

[Hydrosun]

Your too much of a MORON to see the truth and/or which way is up - in anything

3K v 100K

WMD

Who can't see?

Still love that you are a "peace maker"

 

[bombadil.360]

I hear you, but isn't that the same argument they make about me cultivating a schedule I weed, even though I don't cause an accident? They still tell me it is a fucked up thing to do.

They also tell me it is a fucked up thing to operate machinery after consuming cannabis, despite my dr. recommending cannabis, and cannabis not impairing my driving abilities.

Because of these many inconsistencies I have lost respect for man made law. Natural law such as: do not steal, do not kill, and love they neighbor still ring true to my moral compass, but not the tens of thousands of other bull shit rules and laws made up by stupid old men.

the reasoning you present here is like those of people who, after having smoked cannabis, and see it's actually a beneficial plant, think that maybe they have also been lied to about all other illegal drugs i.e: cocaine, heroin.

so they try them, like them and get hooked.

just because the government is wrong about cannabis, it does not follow it is wrong about everything else, is the point I'm making.

the government is wrong about a lot of things, sure, but what else to expect? the government is just made up of people, imperfect people.

this by no means is a justification of incompetence of course; just like wikileaks guy was incompetent when leaking sensitive info, so is the government incompetent on many other things.

and incompetence needs to become responsible of its actions, whether it be wikileaks dude or government.

no need to argue that if government is incompetent, so can wikileaks dude... they all need to face the music when the time comes. this time is for wikileaks dude though.

 

[homebaked]

The powers that be can not stand it that their secret information has been let out. I am proud of Assange and Manning for exposing some of the bs our government dishes out. These guys are fn heroes! btw, they will both be killed for their actions.

I personally dont understand why they keep pursuing Assange, the american people know that our government has done criminal things and the american people do nothing about it.

The american public is brainwashed, always has been. Look, for example, how our beloved weed was made illegal in the first place. That alone should be enough of a reason to overturn its legal status. And how they keep it illegal when the people vote differently.

I was brought up to be patriotic. It was taught in home and school. Organized government is just like organized religion. They both teach you blind faith.

I served in the US military for almost 8 years. I always thought we were a righteous country doing righteous things. But I have also always been too curious for my own good.

For what its worth (you dont have to tell me), from all i have learned over the years is that our government with its coalition, have created a world where they birth you and enslave you til they have filled your body with enough medications to kill you. All the while they have convinced you to pay for it with your hard earned money. The people are nothing more than numbers, we mean nothing emotionally or spiritually to our government and the people that run it.

 

[Harry Gypsna]

We need more wikileaks..
Here in the UK, Tony Blair issued a 100 year secrecy order to cover up which members(members-plural) of his cabinet were caught out as dirty fucking beasts who should get the *Pashtun Waistcoat treatment in "Operation Ore".
This secrecy isn't only used to protect the lives of people working for our intelligence services(who incidentally are "Traitors" to their countries-the very thing BM is accused of).

*Pashtun waistcoat--afghan torture/execution method where the skin of the torso is removed from the victim while still alive.

 

[Plant Early]

As the US continues it's descent into fascism, Assange stands out as a light in the darkness, a voice above the nationalistic chanting crowds of sheep (some of whom have posted right here in support of the US government's war against democracy).

The US is going in the wrong direction. Remember during the cold war when the US proudly stood against citizen surveillance, torture, repression of journalists...well now the US is becoming more like the USSR and the GDR and North Korea every day. It's sad to see.

 

[geneva_sativa]

anyone hear anything after he was hacked and shut down ?

hope he wasn't grabbed when went for embassy interview

 

[_tessarecting]

When was this?

Im browsing over articles now...first I'd heard of it