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It's pricks like this who give us all a bad name.
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ginger already said (several times) that the guy is not a stoner, so he really has no fucking idea about all the how's, why's and what's in our world.
IMO that is why this went so bad
any one of us would probably do some really stupid shit if we were trying to evict a church group from an old grow house
I would, however, probably not call the feds to report them as a cult
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I would, however, probably not call the feds to report them as a cult
that would be kind of drastic, but you never say never.....ask the branch dividian's landlord about that one ........ 
There is no issue on my part, I'm not the one going around acting like the whole east coast scene is all about heroin, coke and marijuana trafficing. Maybe the issue is you just can't handle someone saying things aren't necessarily the way you see them?
As for the nature of the internet, yeah this is anonymous but be that as it may it wouldn't be too difficult to get a person's IP. All anyone would have to do is post a picture on a web site server they controled and look at the log of IP's that accessed that picture. Once a person has your IP they can enter it into one of several databases that allow people to find out where an IP is originating from. Now that will only get them as far as your home town but if you gave out info like "I live down the street from a Walmart" they might be able to pinpoint you even more. This is what any person armed with an IP can do, LEO armed with an IP can do much much more. Now if you're like most you'll chime in about how you use a proxy server or similar methods to mask your IP but technology today and cyber security today is such that cops can get past all that stuff fairly easily. So the smart move for the security conscious is to not discuss their illegal blackmarket activities online. It's kind of like talking smack behind your bosses back. You just don't do it if you want to keep your job because eventually one day it'll get back to your boss. Same thing here, you don't talk about selling pounds to coke and heroin dealers because one day that's going to put you on someone's radar.
Oh and the whole punk 16 year old living in his parents basement downloading other people pics to upload as his own is so highly unlikely. The odds of that being true are probably higher then the odds of hitting the Mega Millions lottery. Yet everyone seems to think that's an effective arguement as to why it's okay to leak sensitive info over the internet.
All this would be perfectly valid, if the guy was a stoner/grower. He is not. It has been said time and time again that the guy is an old square stuck back in the days were deals were made on a handshake and could be counted on. When people operated thier lives with things like honor and integrity.
If any of us want to live our lives with the right to grow and use marijuana as we see fit, then we also need to recognize the right of others to live their lives as they see fit. You seem to think that because there is a movement to accept marijuana as a form of medical treatment that the rest of the world better come on board, accept that fact and adjust their lives to accomodate for it.
What people here are defending is the landlord's right to protect his property as he see's fit. Most who have defended him have stated they wouldn't do the same and go on to recognize the tenant did the things that created the situation that resulted in the unwanted attention to himself.
Also you say the landlord tried to have the guy arrested as a weapon. Now why would he do that unless given a reason? As a landlord renting out to people he's trying to make money and I'm fairly confident he knows that you don't make money by just randomly having tenants locked up for no particular reason. Now I'm inclined to agree he used it as a weapon but that's what you do when someone attacks you first. Which the tenant did in the way he treated the property and they way he acted once the landlord found out. There was no same reason why the landlord should have tried harder to work with the guy. He's not a grower, a smoker or anything else that would change things. He was a landlord with an uncooperative tenant that was making other tenants uncomfortable and was potentially damaging property. Yet you and the rest of the brain trust defending the grower seem to think this landlord should have been more sympathetic and understanding.
The pick tried to have someone thrown in jail because of a simple civil dispute.
Regardless of what vehicle he used(in this case the growing of marijuana)that makes him a piece of shit.
Using the criminal system to attempt retribution for a civil matter is unacceptable.
Eliminate "you seem to think" from your lexicon it will do you a world of good.
It is just another way of saying "the next sentence is an idiotic assumption I am making in a vain attempt to make a point"
The grower was an idiot for even renting from the nosy old fat.
But the land lord is a complete scumbag for attempting to take a mans freedom over a civil matter.
Regardless of what vehicle he used(in this case the growing of marijuana)that makes him a piece of shit.
Using the criminal system to attempt retribution for a civil matter is unacceptable.
Eliminate "you seem to think" from your lexicon it will do you a world of good.
It is just another way of saying "the next sentence is an idiotic assumption I am making in a vain attempt to make a point"
The grower was an idiot for even renting from the nosy old fat.
But the land lord is a complete scumbag for attempting to take a mans freedom over a civil matter.
No he tried to have someone thrown in jail for what in his mind was still illegal.
So you get to make idiotic assumptions in a vain attempt to prove your point but nobody else is allowed to? Really dag, you need to get the fuck over yourself, you're not all that.
nothing is illegal in someones mind, come on!!!!!
when a law changes, state or federal level, the populace is duly informed. less than 99 plants is not federal jurisdiction, and as this guy is well versed in the internet, he could easily check up on the current MMJ legislation/laws in his state. calling a lawyer occurred to his thought process after calling the DEA.
you really will defend this guy to no end, wont you?
RbDf
when a law changes, state or federal level, the populace is duly informed. less than 99 plants is not federal jurisdiction, and as this guy is well versed in the internet, he could easily check up on the current MMJ legislation/laws in his state. calling a lawyer occurred to his thought process after calling the DEA.
you really will defend this guy to no end, wont you?
RbDf
"in his mind"
In my mind turtles are illegal...
The I like turtles kid better not piss me off or ill start calling pigs.
Thats just retarded.
The old fuck got all spiteful and tried to use the pigs to his advantage.
Not a bad idea though.
Maybe if a tenant is late on the rent or dont keep the yard the way I like I could call DCFS and report an abusive situation. You know maybe teach em a lesson about punctuality?
Or an anonymous "tip" about a meth lab if they keep that goddamn camper parked in the yard?
Get that shit tossed by the county mounties a coupla times so they finally get the hint?
And yes I am all that 3X.
In my mind turtles are illegal...
The I like turtles kid better not piss me off or ill start calling pigs.
Thats just retarded.
The old fuck got all spiteful and tried to use the pigs to his advantage.
Not a bad idea though.
Maybe if a tenant is late on the rent or dont keep the yard the way I like I could call DCFS and report an abusive situation. You know maybe teach em a lesson about punctuality?
Or an anonymous "tip" about a meth lab if they keep that goddamn camper parked in the yard?
Get that shit tossed by the county mounties a coupla times so they finally get the hint?
And yes I am all that 3X.
No the order of things was tenant moves in and sets up his grow op such that it makes noise audible from outside and is venting hot humid air into the building. Landlord hears noise goes in to check discovers grow. Landlord tells wis wife and wife insists he calls the cops because they didn't know it was legal to grow up to 99 plants. Cops come, say there is nothing they can do and leave. Tenenat refuses landlords request to leave and threatens to stay even longer then contract and to persue legal action against the landlord thru his lawyer. Apparently something is worked out because the story goes that the tenant agreed to vent using the fan for exhausting paint fumes but then discontinues the practice and goes back to venting hot humid air into the space. Landlord then calls DEA.
You really will go to any lengths including ignoring facts and making wild assumptions about what the landlord knew, in order to defend a douchebag just because he grows pot, won't you?
Oh by the way, that 99 plant thing, that's not a jurisdictional limit. It's an arbitrary limit the DEA established because they were more interested in the big players who are likely dealing then the little guys who are more likely just growing for themselves.
"in his mind"
In my mind turtles are illegal...
The I like turtles kid better not piss me off or ill start calling pigs.
Thats just retarded.
The old fuck got all spiteful and tried to use the pigs to his advantage.
Not a bad idea though.
Maybe if a tenant is late on the rent or dont keep the yard the way I like I could call DCFS and report an abusive situation. You know maybe teach em a lesson about punctuality?
Or an anonymous "tip" about a meth lab if they keep that goddamn camper parked in the yard?
Get that shit tossed by the county mounties a coupla times so they finally get the hint?
And yes I am all that 3X.
Those would be very different situations because you would be lying to the cops about what the tenant was doing. This landlord did not, he found the guy growing pot and called the police to report someone growing pot. You on the opther hand are suggesting calling the cops based on a lie to antagonize tenants who are doing something that you don't like.
In your rush to assumption and judgement you're assuming "in his mind" means he knew it was legal but felt it should still be illegal. "in his mind it was still illegal" could also mean that he didn't know it was okay to grow up to 99 plants in that state.
And while you might think you're 3X that it's all just a delusion in your mind, you're not even worth .3 of what you seem to think you are.
You're delusional, from the OP that you apparently did not read
As documented by the post
1)grow found
2)cops called
3)Cops can't do anything and leave
4)Lanlord asks tenant to leave and offers full refund
5)Tenant refuses, threatens to sue and implies he'll stay as long as he likes.
I left out the confrontation, illegal ultimatum and waiting to call the cops because that's not how it went. I recognize you like to add lots of fantasy and fiction to make your points but most of us prefer to just work with the facts as they've been laid out.
30X then
Sure buddy the old man had no idea that his state had medical marijuana
Why is that so unbelievable, you are totally unaware of how things actually went in this exchange even though it's spelled out in detail in the first post. So the fact that a guy who doesn't have a medical need to use marijuana might not know there are laws that allow it to be grown in his state is not so far fetched.
For all you know this guy has been just tinkering around his house in retirement for the past 10 years and all he knows of marijuana is what was going on in the 60's.
You're making the same mistake redduckfoot is making, you're assuming because marijuana and it's legal status is so relevent and important to you that everyone is in the know of it's quasi legal status. Heck maybe this guy is going on the fact that Federally it's illegal and Federal law is supposed to trump State law?
you are dead wrong. he called the DEA after the grower threatened to lawyer up. he mentions a future contact with his lawyer. After the DEA told him to get lost, TWICE, his attorney took civil action. check GingerAle's final update. he took legal, civil action as his LAST RESORT.
GET YER FACTS STRAIGHT.
rbdf
GET YER FACTS STRAIGHT.
rbdf
I did, I even quoted them for Dag from the first post and still you are refusing to face reality.
here it is for you again though
Lets say you are right...
This hapless fuck has not seen tv,internet,newspaper or radio.
He has not seen the bilboards or the fucking pot stores!
So the first one is forgiven.
The call to the dea was nothing more than an attempt at vindictive use of the criminal system for civil matters.
That is if you believe the far fetched bullshit that he was unaware of mmj..
This hapless fuck has not seen tv,internet,newspaper or radio.
He has not seen the bilboards or the fucking pot stores!
So the first one is forgiven.
The call to the dea was nothing more than an attempt at vindictive use of the criminal system for civil matters.
That is if you believe the far fetched bullshit that he was unaware of mmj..
i hate this thread.
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