It's pricks like this who give us all a bad name.

[redbudduckfoot]

Good for him. that should have been the landlords first course of action, LOL, not the 4th.

I'm out. veiled insults, the funniest form of bashing someone on the internet.

HempKitty:

Breaking bad has been touted as one of, if not the best TV show in recent History, Better than The Sopranos and The Wire, which happen to be my 2nd and 3rd place choices. I hardly glorify the lives of people in those shows, and I dont regarding the manufacture of meth and the bloodbath happens in B.B. Its just a well written/acted drama.

I don't glorify the crazy game that is the ILLEGAL, underground Herb scene on the East Coast. It is what it is. do you know what kind of people buy pounds of Sour D and OG where I am from? the same heads that move Oz's of coke and bundles of H. I'm not psyched regarding those cold hard facts, but its better to deal with those types than 20+ peeps buyin a half z per week.

P

rbdf

 

[SeaMaiden]

Wow, so the renter really *did* have himself an attorney that he was paying to discuss all of this? Damn! I honestly had not given the guy credit, I figured he was just spouting off to scare the landlord.

I bet that whatever the landlord paid in retainer to the attorney is some of the best money he's spent in a MINUTE.

We had to hire an attorney to get the escrow closed on our home (8mos of HELL on what was originally a 90day escrow) and lemme tell ya, it was the BEST $2,500 I've ever spent! And best part is the attorney we hired is now a friend of ours.

 

[Hydrosun]

I'm informing you that no, you don't have the God given right to do whatever you want on someone else's property. If you want to grow pot and can't find a landlord that will allow it, then buy your own fucking land/house, hippie.

Why should I accuse people directly of being shitbags who lack morals? All I have to do is casually mention they are among us, and they will pop out of the woodwork one by one, blowing up into a rage cause my post hit too close to home.

I can tell you sure were offended by my post Hydrosun.....just why is that, exactly? I think it's because you've never owned or created anything of real value of your own therefore are mentally incapable of putting yourself in the landlord's shoes. You're so busy squawking about your rights that you never stop to consider the rights of the landlord.

Your assessment of me is spot on.

I was not offended by this post or your previous post.

My simple question was regarding equality and fairness. Can a landlord refuse to rent to a fag? Can a landlord refuse to rent to a minority? Can a landlord refuse to rent to a family? Can a landlord refuse to rent to a person with religious beliefs?

These are societal questions and perhaps freedom of contract should allow for all this discrimination.

My point is either ALL discrimination should be allowed OR your just being a big fucking hypocrite and saying some discrimination is bad (against blacks, gays, etc.), but discriminating against pet owners or someone who's type of house plant you dislike is perfectly fine.

The rights of the landlord is ALL I have been considering. You seem to feel that AFTER a landlord has CONTRACTED away some of his property rights he is ENTITLED to break that contract, violate its terms, and invade the private space of another. He is not invading a trespasser, he is invading the property RIGHTS that he himself SOLD (or rented) to another.

My speculation is that you have NEVER owned a piece of land or building which you rented to another, and your crazy notion of property rights comes from the back of a cereal box.

You keep doing you and I'll keep squawking about rights, especially ones that people contract for with their neighbors.

And any landlord who calls the FEDS is a square ass fag. Smart growers who rent will avoid these clowns.

@Ginger if I am wrong please link us to the craigslist add for the properties you are leasing out to others.

 

[FlowerFarmer]

Sorry child, the government isn't going to be there to save you if your stupid ass is ignorant enough to sign a lease which gives the landlord the right to come in any time of the day, 24/7, as this lease did. Your ideas about the law are laughable. Your entitlement syndrome is sickening.


This is so retarded I don't even know where to begin. If the landlord doesn't allow cannabis in the first place, then losing his home to the Feds isn't a problem, now is it? Really, how fucking difficult is this to understand? You think just because the grower successfully bamboozled the landlord one day that he isn't subject to getting his ass thrown out the very next? How old are you...16? 17?

Not quite.. look it up before being so condescending using words like retarded and stupid ass when you yourself are ignorant to the law and the real world.. In many states despite the lease stating that the landlord may enter the property at any time of day 24/7 without notice this is simply not the case as directly goes against the Landlord-Tenant Law. It doesnt matter what the lease says.. 24hr notice must be given. At least around these parts.. due to the law.. any wording of such in the lease is null and void. This pertains to residential.. I'm not sure how it pertains to commercial properties. Bottom line.. Tenant/Landlord Law and Protection acts trump the lease.

Losing the home to the FED's isnt a problem if he doesn't allow cannabis in the 1st place? Sorry, but your ideas about how the FEDs operate and law is laughable. It doesnt matter if the landlord allowed it or not, the FEDs do what they want. If this particular case resulted in an asset seizure of the landlords property it would be the responsibility of the property owner to lawyer up, spend mega $$, and prove his innocence in the matter in order to hopefully recover his property. I'm not saying this is likely, but the FEDs will do as they please if they feel the landlord or anyone was knowledgeable or involved. A landlord saying he has no idea or doesnt allow it offers no protections from the FED's calling bullshit on this claim and taking the property anyways. For this reason..even as a grower.. do not allow my tenants to have gardens. They'll have to rent elsewhere if they want to break federal law... or simply don't tell me and I would not know because I respect their privacy and rights.

Around here real estate agents, property owners, etc have all had to spend $$$ to maintain(aka.. BUY back) their innocence. I know several houses in which the FEDs not only prosecuted the grower, but went after both the home owner and person who drew up land contract agreements.. all of which had NO IDEA that cultivation was taking place.


Also,
Med-state or not.. informing ANYONE of a marijuana grow is putting the grower at risk. Period. I don't care how legal I am.. its still a very valuable commodity and business needs to be conducted discreetly. For all anyone knows the landlord can be a blabbering drunk who tells everyone that he is renting to a grower. Its like telling everyone you've got 50-100k sitting in a garage, but its OK.. its legal. No thanks - that's ignorant.

I wouldn't tell a landlord that I'm in the diamond trade and have a quarter million in a back bedroom, I'm certainly not telling him about a grow. It's none of his business. Damage of a rental property is to be dealt with at the end of a lease going through the proper legal avenues put in place for property owners choosing to rent their properties. Again..that is what deposits, small claims court, and insurance is for.

Med-state or not.. people still talk. A medical "recommendation" does absolutely nothing to protect you from greedy violent people or federal prosecution. Hell.. it doesn't even protect you from being BUSTED at all in many circumstances. It gives you "defense" in state law.. that is it.

Telling anyone you crop a highly valuable commodity is STUPID!



I dont agree with the tenant here, but I dont agree with you either gingerale. Hydrosun is right...You keep talking about the rights of the landlord... many of those rights go away or are transferred to the tenant when he agreed to contractually rent his property.

 

[SeaMaiden]

You are correct--just because a clause is in a lease or other contract does not automatically make it enforceable. Usury laws are but one instance I can think of where this is true.

So if a landlord places what amounts to an illegal clause in a contract (lease), as I understand contract law, the entire document becomes null and void. No landlord can demand simple full physical access 24/7, but they can insist upon full EMERGENCY access 24/7 and hold the tenant responsible (lock changing) if they're unable to gain access and damages occur. This is, of course, landlord-tenant law in the residential specter of which I'm discussing, not commercial leasing. I have no experience with commercial leasing.

Typically it's pretty easy to get pre-made, state approved leases online for a fee. They have a lot of boilerplate language, a lot of boxes to check and a lot of checking and double-checking that's already occurred before they're being used by a landlord and tenant. If this landlord didn't use such a contract, or a professional service or did not otherwise avail himself of the legal issues surrounding his contract, then he made a huge mistake and could have gotten himself into hot water.

The tenant can't do *anything* they want with a property they're leasing, but legally speaking it is to a large degree as though or as if they owned it and there are certain rights that should be respected.

 

[HempKat]

Good for him. that should have been the landlords first course of action, LOL, not the 4th.

I'm out. veiled insults, the funniest form of bashing someone on the internet.

HempKitty:

Breaking bad has been touted as one of, if not the best TV show in recent History, Better than The Sopranos and The Wire, which happen to be my 2nd and 3rd place choices. I hardly glorify the lives of people in those shows, and I dont regarding the manufacture of meth and the bloodbath happens in B.B. Its just a well written/acted drama.

I don't glorify the crazy game that is the ILLEGAL, underground Herb scene on the East Coast. It is what it is. do you know what kind of people buy pounds of Sour D and OG where I am from? the same heads that move Oz's of coke and bundles of H. I'm not psyched regarding those cold hard facts, but its better to deal with those types than 20+ peeps buyin a half z per week.

P

rbdf

Wow I guess I hit a never I'll take your HempKitty and rasie you a duckiefoot. Like I said I didn't mean it as a criticism but those shows do glorify the underground scene and do tend to color the perception of people that watch it. I don't know the kind of people that buy pounds of weed because I'm not selling pounds of weed. I'm not worried about 20+ peeps buying a half ounce because I'm not selling half ounces. Which was my point, there are alot of people who aren't part of all that but are part of the growing and smoking marijuana scene. People like myself really get irritated when people like this duchebag tenant do what they do because it makes people less willing to vote in favor of legalization when everytime they think about people that use weed they think about people like this guy or the people you're refering to that buy/sell pounds of coke and heroin along with weed.

I made the comment about the show influencing you because you talk as if the way you see it is the way it is all over the east coast and it is not. I've lived in VA, MD, PA, NJ, DE, DC and WV and it's not like that all over in any of those places....okay except maybe DC. Now yes the kind of scene you describe does exist but in pockets. I guess what I'm trying to drive home is that the majority of people in the blackmarket world do things in a way that reflect badly on us all because there is no distinction in peoples minds about the more peaceful, respectful, responsible users of marijuana. Even people like you who should recognize we're here seem to overlook that we are here. So it's no surprise if those not in the scene at all do think we are all like they show in Breaking Bad, The Sopranos or The Wire, might as well throw in Weeds and Sons of Anarchy too.

We, the reasonable growers/users of marijuana want one day for society to accept marijuana use as openly as cigarettes and alcohol and the freedom to grow it at home just like one is free to homebrew. People selling pounds to people who also deal in heroin and coke don't want that world as it would drastically reduce their earning potential and in the end only a few might manage to turn it into a successful business just like certain families who did well brewing beer during prohibition went on to create many of the giants in the beer industry today. The majority though will have to move on to something else to make money off of though. This guy seems like one of those types, he was too prepared in his response as if he's been thru it before, his grow op is mobile in a trailer and there is evidence suggesting he has other setups in other locations even though the one in question already had him at his limit. A reasonable grower wouldn't do any of the things this guy did and I think you know that because you've bragged about how good your landlord reference list is and if it's that good and you grow at all these place I'm sure you didn't get all those glowing references by handing the landlord his rent and saying, "Now stay the fuck out of my business while I damage your property." I'm confident you got that list of references by being respectful and by not giving the landlord a reason to know about what you do and by making sure you didn't damage the place.

 

[floralheart]

He's the land LORD, and his subjects are subject to his will.

The landlord is entitled. He's the title or deed holder.

The Golden Rule. He who has the gold, makes the rules.

 

[greenmatter]

this has turned into another one of those threads where it has got to be black and white. either the landlord is 100% at fault or the grower is, right?

looks to me like it is another one of those things were all the worst possible moves were made by both parties, which puts the argument right smack dab in the middle of a gray area.

IME most landlords that i have worked for here are good people who don't really care what you do as long as you are straight with them and don't fuck up their property. they are so reasonable that the word landlord does not really stick when you throw it at them.

there are the select few who try to get the word lawyer into the conversation as often as possible and you can tell by looking at their properties that they care about money and only money (i would never rent from one of these guys, and i do what i can not to work for them). for the most part it seems like these are the guys who people see when the slur "landlord" is used .......

chances are if the grower had been straight with the landlord in the first place he would have had to look for another place to rent, but there is also a chance that the landlord would have been O.K. with it and they both would have learned a little from it in the long run.

i can see why both of them are pissed off at the situation ......... once the lawyer/cops "bitch card" gets pulled things usually start sliding downhill real fast

trouble is some folks make it so you have to get them involved because they won't put themselves in the opposition's shoes ......... if they did landlords and renters as a whole would get along just fine IMHO.

empathy and pragmatism have become endangered species and the clusterfuck that this is causing can be seen from john q. public's front yard all the way through the courts and into the government. once we start bitching and screaming at each other instead of talking and working together things get stupid ....... they always have and they always will, but we keep doing the same math over and over again and expect a different result.

throwing labels at anything or anyone is a fool's game

 

[real ting]

I'm informing you that no, you don't have the God given right to do whatever you want on someone else's property. If you want to grow pot and can't find a landlord that will allow it, then buy your own fucking land/house, hippie.

Why should I accuse people directly of being shitbags who lack morals? All I have to do is casually mention they are among us, and they will pop out of the woodwork one by one, blowing up into a rage cause my post hit too close to home.

I can tell you sure were offended by my post Hydrosun.....just why is that, exactly? I think it's because you've never owned or created anything of real value of your own therefore are mentally incapable of putting yourself in the landlord's shoes. You're so busy squawking about your rights that you never stop to consider the rights of the landlord.

You really can't tell why people are offended by your posts?

I never personally insulted you, yet in your response to my post earlier you started off by insinuating that I was related to the problem tenant, that I had the same strategy for life(or growing or renting? couldn't tell what exactly you were ranting about), then moved on to this gem "Your entitlement syndrome is sickening." You proceeded to say that I was "16 or 17" . When that wasn't enough, you decided to tell hydrosun that you didn't think he had ever "owned or created anything of value".

This whole time you have done nothing but insult the "morals", character, and life choices of many of the members of this site. Regardless of whether your original argument had any merit or not, you went and destroyed any credibility you may have had by being rude, insulting, and making assumptions about practically everyone who disagrees with you. You somehow managed to do all that while at the same time calling almost the entire membership of this site criminals, which while it may be true, didn't need to be said with the vile hatred and contempt that you managed to put into the words.

Gingerale, you mention other people flying into a rage, but the only one I really see doing that consistently is you. Is there something you're not telling us, gingerale? Is everything alright at home?

Calm down over there pal, you're gonna give yourself an aneurysm.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

its crazy, the broad generalizations that some here find the need to spew to further their point/cause.

Hempkat, u speak as if it is MY fault that I have been forced into the black market by the prohibition of Marijuana. It is my fault that I have chosen to do something that i love, that all my energy goes to, and i deserve the company I lay with. For you to say that this extreme Black Market only exists in "Pockets" is uneducated at best. Boston, Worcester, Lowell, Albany, Syracuse, Watertown, Buffalo, NYC, Camden, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the list can go on and on. All major cities on the East Coast that have horrible, out of control violent crime as a result of prohibition. I would hardly call the laundry list of troubled inner cities "Pockets," my brother. Just because you have been lucky enough to avoid these so called Pockets, doesn't mean that I, or anyone else is that fortunate.

when I call this "Game" a game, I'm not talking checkers.

RBDF

 

[kmk420kali]

Dude could have avoided this whole mess...with 3 more feet of ducting....and a filter--
The only complaint I seen here, was the Landlord didn't want humid air being exhausted into his Garage....why didn't the Grower simply exhaust it outside of the dwelling??

 

[FlowerFarmer]

nah.. this landlord is a over attentive snoop. He wouldnt be having it regardless.

Dude was in the shop for 5 days! No damage was being done.. nor was there likely any humidity or smell this early in the run. For christ sakes it was a concrete building with a metal roof. What kind of damage possibly could have been done? How could the landlord have seen smelly humid air being vented into building? He didn't.. its just all he knows/learned about grow-ops from this little experience. It wasn't the humming that made this landlord snoop around.. that is just what he said. It was the blacked out windows that got him curious...the humming was just his excuse for "letting himself in".

The landlord likely used the smell/humid air reason because its what he was told when he ran whining to his friends and the internet after discovering a cannabis grow in his rental. After the asshole tenant didnt want to leave peacefully he ran crying to the DEA and they told him to take a hike. He then returned to the internet with his panties in a bunch instead of proceeding with the eviction process that exists for purpose of removing problem tenants.

5 days! ^that is what happened.

Maybe the grower hadn't even been fully setup and ran his ducting yet. Perhaps he was going to vent out of a window or attic soffet/vent and just hadn't hooked it up.. ya know..being he was only 5 days in and humidity/temp was not yet an issue. Maybe he was running a AC and simply venting hot dry air off of the back of it.

How does one run a 22' trailer grow op in a sealed space without venting to the exterior or using AC? Certainly it would just heat the garage up making it impossible to grow in the trailer inside the building. I'd expect someone cropping 22' mobile grow ops to have these aspects sorted out in one way or another.

5 days? This grower did no damage to the concrete building with metal roof. He was barely getting started.. who knows if he was going to take necessary action to rid the building of heat and humidity. I'm betting that if he had no plans to vent the structure then he was planning on running the trailer sealed w/ co2.. hanging a window unit back half into the shop and allow the hot dry air to dissipate from there. This would heat the shop up considerably, but add no humidity or cause damage to the property at all. The shop was big enough that this was likely a viable option for the grower.


The snoopy landlord will likely experience these same issues over an over again unless he decides to be emotionally detached from this property. He'll just have problems with the next tenant for some dumb ass reason or another. (welding sparks flying, harmful paint sprayer fumes, fuel "smells", oil on the concrete, tire ruts in front of the building, etc.. the list goes on and on.)

Its a concrete block building body shop with a metal roof!


I'd be curious to know if this landlord not only entered the building, but actually opened the trailer up, etc. How did he know that a humming trailer was a grow? Maybe he was running a dehumidifier or a fan to keep his toys and barter items from becoming pitted with rust in this block building.

 

[HempKat]

its crazy, the broad generalizations that some here find the need to spew to further their point/cause.

Hempkat, u speak as if it is MY fault that I have been forced into the black market by the prohibition of Marijuana. It is my fault that I have chosen to do something that i love, that all my energy goes to, and i deserve the company I lay with. For you to say that this extreme Black Market only exists in "Pockets" is uneducated at best. Boston, Worcester, Lowell, Albany, Syracuse, Watertown, Buffalo, NYC, Camden, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the list can go on and on. All major cities on the East Coast that have horrible, out of control violent crime as a result of prohibition. I would hardly call the laundry list of troubled inner cities "Pockets," my brother. Just because you have been lucky enough to avoid these so called Pockets, doesn't mean that I, or anyone else is that fortunate.

when I call this "Game" a game, I'm not talking checkers.

RBDF

I'm not saying anything about what you do for a living although truth it is your fault because you were not forced into the blackmarket it's a choice you made. Just like the choice to deal with big players to do large single transactions rather then a bunch of small players making many small purchases. Nobody say's that just because you grow weed you have to sell it. To try to say you're forced to do it is complete bullshit though. What really surprises me though is that if you're security is so tight, why are you here talking so much about your business that you shouldn't be talking about? I mean dealing high up the food chain in big quantities affords you the opportunity to have it that nobody knows what you do and yet here you are telling everyone. If I was making the kind of money you're implying I'd be talking a whole lot of nothing about it. But hey, you got it all figured out right? So go on with your bad self, give people way more info then they need.

As for your laundry list well I've been in many of those towns you list and while they have their bad areas in sections (pockets) it's not like that in the whole city and I know for a fact that in several of those cities there are also people who just grow for themselves. Which just reinforces the notion that what you watch on tv has given you a distorted view of reality.

I must be hitting awful close to home with these things though because you sure are getting awful riled and seem to be taking everything I say in the worst possible way you can imagine.

 

[redbudduckfoot]

dude, im hardly a big player. only make enough to pay the bills and rent, maybe go on vacation in the fall. all i run is a 1000w flip, and some OD at the moment. baby shit. Im not telling anybody anything, this is the fucking internet dude, and I could just be a punk ass 16 year old in their parents basement stealing other peoples grow picks and calling them my own. this shit is anonymous, right?

maybe your lack of experience is the issue, and sense you have not lived it, then it must be all make believe.

RBDF

 

[Hydrosun]

You are correct--just because a clause is in a lease or other contract does not automatically make it enforceable. Usury laws are but one instance I can think of where this is true.

So if a landlord places what amounts to an illegal clause in a contract (lease), as I understand contract law, the entire document becomes null and void. No landlord can demand simple full physical access 24/7, but they can insist upon full EMERGENCY access 24/7 and hold the tenant responsible (lock changing) if they're unable to gain access and damages occur. This is, of course, landlord-tenant law in the residential specter of which I'm discussing, not commercial leasing. I have no experience with commercial leasing.

Typically it's pretty easy to get pre-made, state approved leases online for a fee. They have a lot of boilerplate language, a lot of boxes to check and a lot of checking and double-checking that's already occurred before they're being used by a landlord and tenant. If this landlord didn't use such a contract, or a professional service or did not otherwise avail himself of the legal issues surrounding his contract, then he made a huge mistake and could have gotten himself into hot water.

The tenant can't do *anything* they want with a property they're leasing, but legally speaking it is to a large degree as though or as if they owned it and there are certain rights that should be respected.

Severability, just because part of a K (contract for you pot heads) is invalid, doesn't mean the whole thing is. Most laws and faggy contacts are writen with serveralibility clauses (ie. if any of these clauses are found to be invalid, unenforceable, or illegal, all other clauses remain).

LIERS uh i mean lawyers love this shit.

 

[Hydrosun]

its crazy, the broad generalizations that some here find the need to spew to further their point/cause.

Hempkat, u speak as if it is MY fault that I have been forced into the black market by the prohibition of Marijuana. It is my fault that I have chosen to do something that i love, that all my energy goes to, and i deserve the company I lay with. For you to say that this extreme Black Market only exists in "Pockets" is uneducated at best. Boston, Worcester, Lowell, Albany, Syracuse, Watertown, Buffalo, NYC, Camden, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, the list can go on and on. All major cities on the East Coast that have horrible, out of control violent crime as a result of prohibition. I would hardly call the laundry list of troubled inner cities "Pockets," my brother. Just because you have been lucky enough to avoid these so called Pockets, doesn't mean that I, or anyone else is that fortunate.

when I call this "Game" a game, I'm not talking checkers.

RBDF

You do deserve the company you keep and you do deserve the scorn of your betters.

What makes you think that you alone will be praised for growing a weed whilst the rest of us are scorned?

I know you feel not this way and I am only making another in a series of endless points..... If we are not here for ourselves, who the fuck are we here for?

 

[redbudduckfoot]

did not realize i was looking for praise. all i want is some civility. also, i am not embarrassed about the company i keep. I keep to myself. what the fuck are we even talking about anyway?

this stupid fucking thread has all of us fighting and arguing semantics, when there is a much larger problem. this fucking plant is illegal for no good reason at all, and instead of standing up for ourselves, we bicker on this site and are scared shitless to stand up and fight.

RBDF

 

[dagnabit]

Some folks Like to argue even when they know they are being stupid....


nosy fuck wasted time and money because he heard a hum.
We have growers who know they are wrong for defending the idiot who tried to have his tennant thrown in jail for a hum but continue to do so!!

When this cocksucker called the dea it was not for help in the eviction process.

The piece of shit even says "in my mind it is illegal" so I called the cops.
What did he think was gonna happen? He was expecting the grower to be taken away in handcuffs.

Defend that stupid shit if you want to..

Trying to have someone jailed over nothing is deplorable!

Maybe if any of you who defend this worthless fuck had ever been hauled off to jail for a plant you might think a little more seriously before defending the idea of doing it to someone else as a weapon..

 

[greenmatter]

ginger already said (several times) that the guy is not a stoner, so he really has no fucking idea about all the how's, why's and what's in our world.

IMO that is why this went so bad

any one of us would probably do some really stupid shit if we were trying to evict a church group from an old grow house

 

[hammalamma]

nah.. this landlord is a over attentive snoop. He wouldnt be having it regardless.

Dude was in the shop for 5 days! No damage was being done.. nor was there likely any humidity or smell this early in the run. For christ sakes it was a concrete building with a metal roof. What kind of damage possibly could have been done? How could the landlord have seen smelly humid air being vented into building? He didn't.. its just all he knows/learned about grow-ops from this little experience. It wasn't the humming that made this landlord snoop around.. that is just what he said. It was the blacked out windows that got him curious...the humming was just his excuse for "letting himself in".

The landlord likely used the smell/humid air reason because its what he was told when he ran whining to his friends and the internet after discovering a cannabis grow in his rental. After the asshole tenant didnt want to leave peacefully he ran crying to the DEA and they told him to take a hike. He then returned to the internet with his panties in a bunch instead of proceeding with the eviction process that exists for purpose of removing problem tenants.

5 days! ^that is what happened.

Maybe the grower hadn't even been fully setup and ran his ducting yet. Perhaps he was going to vent out of a window or attic soffet/vent and just hadn't hooked it up.. ya know..being he was only 5 days in and humidity/temp was not yet an issue. Maybe he was running a AC and simply venting hot dry air off of the back of it.

How does one run a 22' trailer grow op in a sealed space without venting to the exterior or using AC? Certainly it would just heat the garage up making it impossible to grow in the trailer inside the building. I'd expect someone cropping 22' mobile grow ops to have these aspects sorted out in one way or another.

5 days? This grower did no damage to the concrete building with metal roof. He was barely getting started.. who knows if he was going to take necessary action to rid the building of heat and humidity. I'm betting that if he had no plans to vent the structure then he was planning on running the trailer sealed w/ co2.. hanging a window unit back half into the shop and allow the hot dry air to dissipate from there. This would heat the shop up considerably, but add no humidity or cause damage to the property at all. The shop was big enough that this was likely a viable option for the grower.


The snoopy landlord will likely experience these same issues over an over again unless he decides to be emotionally detached from this property. He'll just have problems with the next tenant for some dumb ass reason or another. (welding sparks flying, harmful paint sprayer fumes, fuel "smells", oil on the concrete, tire ruts in front of the building, etc.. the list goes on and on.)

Its a concrete block building body shop with a metal roof!


I'd be curious to know if this landlord not only entered the building, but actually opened the trailer up, etc. How did he know that a humming trailer was a grow? Maybe he was running a dehumidifier or a fan to keep his toys and barter items from becoming pitted with rust in this block building.

You must spread rep before giving to flowerfarmer again......
At least some people pay attention to FACTS! Half of this thread is speculation and assumption.