got my ascorbic acid at walmart. i also use compost and humic acid . a 3 prong approach
Water for Organics
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i add chicken stock to all my ACT brews. it's great for sick plants.
I prefer using a light Bechamel Sauce with fresh chives and morels - that's how we roll in the Shire!
hades
Member
Thanks for all the info! I really liked the bit about using Humic Acid to break Chlorine/Chloramine and that seems the easiest way to do it for me.
Have to say that I will no longer read Maximum Yield magazine.....I know it is published by NWGS or some distributor and they had 2 different articles on RO and never mentioned once in any of them that simple COMPOST will break Chloramine/Chlorine. Every one of their articles is just marketing spin! Oh, btw, they have a lot of new RO/Chloramine filter units they are selling now!
Have to say that I will no longer read Maximum Yield magazine.....I know it is published by NWGS or some distributor and they had 2 different articles on RO and never mentioned once in any of them that simple COMPOST will break Chloramine/Chlorine. Every one of their articles is just marketing spin! Oh, btw, they have a lot of new RO/Chloramine filter units they are selling now!
IncredibowlBoss
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@hades - use some caution with your Humic acid - it's good stuff, but a little goes a long way, especially with young plants - burned the shit out of two trays of rooted clones when I started using it.
I recommend the water filters from purewaterproducts.com - their twin canister filters can accept any two of the filter cartridges, so you can customize pretty specifically to your needs. I don't believe that RO is a good look, though - I had two friends brag about the RO systems they were putting in their warehouses who later took em out because the plants just weren't as happy.
Make sure you go with a drinking water safe garden hose if you go with a hose-style filter (aka a Marine/RV hose at home depot)
I recommend the water filters from purewaterproducts.com - their twin canister filters can accept any two of the filter cartridges, so you can customize pretty specifically to your needs. I don't believe that RO is a good look, though - I had two friends brag about the RO systems they were putting in their warehouses who later took em out because the plants just weren't as happy.
Make sure you go with a drinking water safe garden hose if you go with a hose-style filter (aka a Marine/RV hose at home depot)
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SeaMaiden
I still recommend going the cheap and easy route of sodium thiosulfate. NOTHING is cheaper, I'm not even kidding about that.
Mixing this product down to a 3% solution that is then used at a rate of 1tsp/gal will keep in dechlorinated and dechloraminated for YEARS, maybe even for LIFE.
http://www.chemistrystore.com/Sodium_Thiosulfate-Sodium_Thiosulfate_2lbs.html
Mixing this product down to a 3% solution that is then used at a rate of 1tsp/gal will keep in dechlorinated and dechloraminated for YEARS, maybe even for LIFE.
http://www.chemistrystore.com/Sodium_Thiosulfate-Sodium_Thiosulfate_2lbs.html
chicken stock? food grade? like the shit you buy at the local super market!!!
this is brilliant...how much per gallon and just add while bubbling?
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SeaMaiden
Dood, it's gotta be homemade, from super-relaxed chickens.
Aquasafe works really well. It has beneficials in it, plus a variety of treatment materials, some of which are organic.
Duuuuuuuuuude.....that stuff has MSG in it. What will those things...uh the micro-dudes in the soil do when they eat the broth with MSG in it???? I mean it gives me headaches...will it cause brain damage in my micro-organasoil-herd??
The tryptophan will definitely increase date rape among the micro herd. Nematodes are fairly phallic, and how do you think naked amoeba got that way?
Victor Newman
New member
Depending on your GPS you should try your local municipal water dept and/or a local university or community college. If they won't perform the test for you they'll probably give you very solid advice on what you need to know about testing water.
There is zero harm in using RO water with an organic grow. Quite the contrary and much to the majority of the dialog, using dechnorinated municipal water without knowing the alkalinity (hardness) of the water is a potential recipe for disaster. If you water is high in alkalinity that means it has a high alkaline buffer. It is important to know what the alkalinity of your tap water is. No harm in organics using RO water. Zero.
First, do not ever let your peat based medium dry out. Not only is there potential for harming the root system peat is extremely difficult to rewet without a surfacant. Don't let it dry out and your won't have a problem IMO.
Rather than use a surfacant prior to watering your plant break up the surface layer of the soil. That will take care of your water pooling up or running off. Actually that crusty layer on top of an organic soil is a potentially very good thing. Bacteria bind the soil with glomus which causes the soil particles to stick and bind together. If your soil is crusty and you know it's definitively not something else, all other things considered it's probably glomus.
FWIW IMO do not ever put H2O2 into a organic grow unless you're trying to kill something. Bubble your water if it makes you feel better but if you having a soil with a great tilth AND you break up the soil surface prior to watering, when you water fresh atmospheric O2 will be drawn into the soil as the water percolates down. This is in addition to any O2 in the water. Scrap the H2O2 thought and if you want to, bubble your water. If you don't want to bubble it you probably won't ever notice the difference.
Absolutely zero. If you have the option of RO water over any other type or source of water use the RO.
Blaz3
Member
If your a die hard organics..then i highly suggest an ro setup..its expensive..but tap water has chlorine,which can be bubbled off in 24h...but most states are using cholramine..which CANT be disperesed...if your tap is less than 100..then your good to go..mines is 180ppm....
so yes,if your 100% organics,invet is a ro filter brother...jah bless
so yes,if your 100% organics,invet is a ro filter brother...jah bless
Our city water comes out at exactly 7 every time I have tested it, for years. It uses chlorine though, not chloramine, so that's good at least. I will need to try to figure out if they publish data on their site about their water attributes.
R/O filters are horribly inefficient, and waste a lot of water to create "clean" water.
Also, there are many ways to remove chloramine, acids being the simplest..
SFPUC determined that 1000 mg of Vitamin C (tablets purchased in a grocery store, crushed and mixed in with the bath water) remove chloramine completely in a medium size bathtub without significantly depressing pH.
So, 1000mg will remove chloramine from 40 gal of water.
IMHO, if you're truly organic (meaning your choices are based on their impact in the environment as well as your garden) you'd be using rain water, or well water.
That's just my opinion though
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SeaMaiden
No, it's not just your opinion, it's mine as well.
