Please help...hurry

[guest86120975]

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[braincancer]

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=238858&highlight=beer

 

[guest86120975]

Nice thread, maybe once I figure out the answer to my question I can join the beer cup challenge or w/e

 

[jerry111165]

If you're only expecting that much weight, then sure it would work. I'd still want to use as big of a container as you can fit - maybe 2-3 gallons?

I'd get those seeds going NOW though!

 

[guest86120975]

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[guest86120975]

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[supermanlives]

put of in the 3\4 of bucket bottom . use whatever you want for the last 1/4. on top. i have never used of straight . i just toss a few bags in the mix every few cycles. so i dont know how long the ferts will last ya

 

[FirstTracks]

Nice thread, maybe once I figure out the answer to my question I can join the beer cup challenge or w/e

I could be wrong, cause I often am....
It looks like our friend braincancer was pointin you to that thread because it has a ton of examples of people growing in the same style you're asking about.

The FFOF is most likely gonna be way too hot for your seedlings, even when cut with perlite. IME, perlite won't really cut down the 'heat' with your nutes, just gives the roots more room to grow better. You could try cutting the FFOF with something like peat or coco and that would probably work out all right for you.

What Superman suggested with the top 1/4 nute free, and the bottom 3/4 with nutes works ok in slightly bigger containers, if you're only using 6" square pots or something, your tap root will almost definitely hit the hot soil before your seedlings are even to their second true set of leaves, burning the plants.

I'd suggest running GH nutes and using either the Lucas formula (start off at 1/4 strength at 2nd true set, 1/2 1 week/3 feedings later, full strength when they're ready) or use Rez's 'recipe' (6/9 micro/bloom)

All you'd need is a 1 liter bottle of micro, 1 liter bloom, pH up and down, and maybe some koolbloom or other flower booster if you wanted. Should be less than $50.

Consider using 1 gal containers so you don't have to have a perfect system to pull off your 1/4oz plants in a beer cup. Always nice to leave a little room for error.

 

[jerry111165]

I'd suggest running GH nutes and using either the Lucas formula (start off at 1/4 strength at 2nd true set, 1/2 1 week/3 feedings later, full strength when they're ready) or use Rez's 'recipe' (6/9 micro/bloom)

Really man? That's your advice? Bottles?

J

 

[yerboyblue]

^^ what first tracks said about it being to hot for seedling is true. Flush the hell out of the dirt first.

 

[jerry111165]

^^ what first tracks said about it being to hot for seedling is true. Flush the hell out of the dirt first.

More excellent advice! *lol* better and better...hahaha

Maybe4sure, just start your seed in a cup of peat mixed with a few teaspoons of the Fox Farms. Let it get 6" to 8" and then transplant it into your straight Fox Farms.

The only thing "wrong" with the FF soil is that it is manufactured in bulk, and you don't really know how much of or what quality there is in the soil amendments in the mix - but since they're out to make money, it's usually on the light side. If youre really unsure, just cut it down with some sphagnum peat ie: ProMix or Sunshine Mix, both of which are a mix of peat and perlite, with a slight charge of lime mixed in. This will work out perfectly for your needs.

You posted your question in the Organic Soil forum for a reason. Don't listen to bad advice about running to The Hydro Store and buying bottled chemicals or even better (*LMAO*) flushing soil! *lol*

Have a good day man.

Jerry

*still lmao*

 

[yerboyblue]

Jerry, why not flush a couple 4" pots of dirt instead of buying some moss as well as dirt? He's putting some plants in the window sill. I would recommend SS#4 but there's no fert in it. Get that one bag of FFOF and flush for seedlings. Then transplant into some non flushed so he has some fert.

 

[Bennyweed1]

I have never had FFOF burn my plants. Its an okay starter soil but I do not believe it will take you from start to finish.

I have never had a soil that truly was a start to finish. I have to use AACTs or FPEs to balance the micro profile and nutrient break down.

I've tried it and only ended up with shitty yellowing, unbalanced plants.

 

[yerboyblue]

^ what benny said.

And i've never used fox farm lol

 

[jerry111165]

Jerry, why not flush a couple 4" pots of dirt instead of buying some moss as well as dirt? He's putting some plants in the window sill. I would recommend SS#4 but there's no fert in it. Get that one bag of FFOF and flush for seedlings. Then transplant into some non flushed so he has some fert.

Yerboyblue - flushing soil is silly and useless. The items that make up the soil construction, such as kelp meal, bone meal, minerals, seed meals, compost - whatever, ARE the soil. To attempt to remove these items from your soil is a fools errand. They are not water soluble like chemical fertilizers - they ARE the soil.

Flushing soil is a stupid and ridiculous old wives tale spread around the Internet by idiots and morons.

Kinda like flushing will remove chemical fertilizers from your buds...I love that one too...*lol*

J

 

[yerboyblue]

So when I flush my soil for seedlings, the brown water coming out the bottom isn't particulate organic matter?

 

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[jerry111165]

Rinsing out little pieces of organic matter is doing what?

Please explain how this helps you out, or better yet, please show me/cite a reference regarding flushing and it's benefits.

Thanks in advance.

J

 

[guest86120975]

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[Gascanastan]

Yerboyblue - flushing soil is silly and useless. The items that make up the soil construction, such as kelp meal, bone meal, minerals, seed meals, compost - whatever, ARE the soil. To attempt to remove these items from your soil is a fools errand. They are not water soluble like chemical fertilizers - they ARE the soil.

Flushing soil is a stupid and ridiculous old wives tale spread around the Internet by idiots and morons.

Kinda like flushing will remove chemical fertilizers from your buds...I love that one too...*lol*

J

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