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Bi0hazard

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Veterans Affairs Easing Rules for Users of Medical Marijuana

Full Article @ http://releaf.co/?p=4710


"DENVER — The Department of Veterans Affairs will formally allow patients treated at its hospitals and clinics to use medical marijuana in states where it is legal, a policy clarification that veterans have sought for several years. A department directive, expected to take effect next week, resolves the conflict in veterans facilities between federal law, which outlaws marijuana, and the 14 states that allow medicinal use of the drug, effectively deferring to the states.

The policy will not permit department doctors to prescribe marijuana. But it will address the concern of many patients who use the drug that they could lose access to their prescription pain medication if caught.

Under department rules, veterans can be denied pain medications if they are found to be using illegal drugs. Until now, the department had no written exception for medical marijuana.
This has led many patients to distrust their doctors, veterans say. With doctors and patients pressing the veterans department for formal guidance, agency officials began drafting a policy last fall.

“When states start legalizing marijuana we are put in a bit of a unique position because as a federal agency, we are beholden to federal law,” said Dr. Robert Jesse, the principal deputy under secretary for health in the veterans department.

At the same time, Dr. Jesse said, “We didn’t want patients who were legally using marijuana to be administratively denied access to pain management programs.”
The new, written policy applies only to veterans using medical marijuana in states where it is legal. Doctors may still modify a veteran’s treatment plan if the veteran is using marijuana, or decide not to prescribe pain medicine altogether if there is a risk of a drug interaction. But that decision will be made on a case-by-case basis, not as blanket policy, Dr. Jesse said.
Though veterans of the Vietnam War were the first group to use marijuana widely for medical purposes, the population of veterans using it now spans generations, said Michael Krawitz, executive director of Veterans for Medical Marijuana Access, which worked with the department on formulating a policy.

Veterans, some of whom have been at the forefront of the medical marijuana movement, praised the department’s decision. They say cannabis helps soothe physical and psychological pain and can alleviate the side effects of some treatments.

“By creating a directive on medical marijuana, the V.A. ensures that throughout its vast hospital network, it will be well understood that legal medical marijuana use will not be the basis for the denial of services,” Mr. Krawitz said.

Although the Obama administration has not embraced medical marijuana, last October, in a policy shift, the Justice Department announced that it would not prosecute people who used or distributed it in states where it was legal.

Laura Sweeney, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, would not comment spefically on the veterans department policy. “What we have said in the past, and what we have said for a while, is that we are going to focus our federal resources on large scale drug traffickers,” she said. “We are not going to focus on individual cancer patients or something of the like.”

Many clinicians already prescribe pain medication to veterans who use medical marijuana, as there was no rule explicitly prohibiting them from doing so, despite the federal marijuana laws.

Advocates of medical marijuana use say that in the past, the patchwork of veterans hospitals and clinics around the country were sometimes unclear how to deal with veterans who needed pain medications and were legally using medical marijuana. The department’s emphasis on keeping patients off illegal drugs and from abusing their medication “gave many practitioners the feeling that they are supposed to police marijuana out of the system,” Mr. Krawitz said.

“Many medical-marijuana-using veterans have just abandoned the V.A. hospital system completely for this reason,” he said, “and others that stay in the system feel that they are not able to trust that their doctor will be working in their best interests.”

In rare cases, veterans have been told that they need to stop using marijuana, even if it is legal, or risk losing their prescription medicine, Mr. Krawitz said.
David Fox, 58, an Army veteran from Pompey’s Pillar, Mont., uses medical marijuana legally to help quiet the pain he experiences from neuropathy, a nerve disorder. But he said he was told this year by a doctor at a veterans’ clinic in Billings that if he did not stop using marijuana, he would no longer get the pain medication he was also prescribed.
A letter written to Mr. Fox in April from Robin Korogi, the director of the veterans health care system in Montana, explained that the department did not want to prescribe pain medicine in combination with marijuana because there was no evidence that marijuana worked for noncancer patients and because the combination was unsafe.
“In those states where medical marijuana is legal, the patient will need to make a choice as to which medication they choose to use for their chronic pain,” Ms. Korogi wrote. “However, it is not medically appropriate to expect that a V.A. physician will prescribe narcotics while the patient is taking marijuana.”

Mr. Fox was shocked by the decision, he said.
“I felt literally abandoned,” he said. “I still needed my pain meds. I thought they were supposed to treat you. It was devastating for me.”
Mr. Fox, who said that at one point he was weaning himself off his pain medication for fear of running out, has held one-man protests in front of the clinic, carrying signs that read “Abandoned by V.A., Refused Treatment.”

Veterans officials would not comment on specific cases, citing medical privacy laws.
This month, Dr. Robert A. Petzel, the under secretary for health for the veterans department, sent a letter to Mr. Krawitz laying out the department’s policy. If a veteran obtains and uses medical marijuana in accordance with state law, Dr. Petzel wrote, he should not be precluded from receiving opioids for pain management at a veterans facility.
Dr. Petzel also said that pain management agreements between clinicians and patients, which are used as guidelines for courses of treatment, “should draw a clear distinction between the use of illegal drugs, and legal medical marijuana.”

Dr. Jesse, the veterans department official, said that formalizing rules on medical marijuana would eliminate any future confusion and keep patients from being squeezed between state and federal law.

Steve Fox, director of government relations for the Marijuana Policy Project, which favors the legal regulation of the drug, called the decision historic. “We now have a branch of the federal government accepting marijuana as a legal medicine,” he said.

But Mr. Fox said he wished the policy had been extended to veterans who lived in states where medical marijuana was not legal.
He said it was critical that the veterans department make its guidelines clear to patients and medical staff members, something officials said they planned on doing in coming weeks.
Said Dr. Jesse, “The whole goal of issuing a national policy is to make sure we have uniformity across the system.”"
 

DoobieDuck

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Bio thanks bunches for posting. I thought hey had done this already but your article is dated July 2012 so there must be some change in policy. It's a good thing for those who have served our country. Peace..DD
 

trichrider

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"Although the Obama administration has not embraced medical marijuana, last October, in a policy shift, the Justice Department announced that it would not prosecute people who used or distributed it in states where it was legal."

foot in the door...
 
Holy Shit, Duck! This is bigger news than most of can comprehend on initial viewing! The LEVERAGE this ruling will bring this community is HUGE! The effect it will have on me, personally, is also large. The V.A. tests my blood on a more than regular basis and showing positive would jeapordize the level and COST of my treatment. But the BIG picture is the National OPINION...and this is, as Joe would say, " A big F'n Deal! " -on the edge of an empty hi-way, lookin' at the blood on the moon-
 
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yortbogey

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this is quite possible one of the most progressive accomplishment ....in along time...W0W
may the winds of change feel more uplift and draft....as we float toward.... open modern day acceptance of MMJ
 

rives

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Amazing. That light at the end of the tunnel is a train bearing down on the Feds.
 

Gray Wolf

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Whoooop, lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu lu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Semper Fi!
 

Headbandf1

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feds/vet got my script , doctors are pleased still prescribe me meds and live up to their commitment, enjoy smoking in the smoking booths.

on a second note Obama did something goo with those Vrep grants which I hope to get.
 

Tony Aroma

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Ever hear of a little concept called "equal protection"? The feds can't say mmj is acceptable for use by some people but not others based on where they live. Federal laws have to apply equally to everyone, everywhere. Not that the Constitution matters much any more, but I'd say this opens the door to some lawsuits.
 

subrob

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While it officially becomes policy next week...everyone i deal w at VA hospital and clinics i go to IMMEDIATELY complied w the decision last year or whenever it was first announced..it felt good to be able to discuss it as part of the overall pain program and ptsd program..as good if not better then the first time i got to walk in to a mmj outlet
 

Bi0hazard

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Ever hear of a little concept called "equal protection"? The feds can't say mmj is acceptable for use by some people but not others based on where they live. Federal laws have to apply equally to everyone, everywhere. Not that the Constitution matters much any more, but I'd say this opens the door to some lawsuits.

Lawsuits could help make this issue more public and could also set legal precedents that people could be protected by in the future, simply by referring to one of these cases.
 
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"the director of the veterans health care system in Montana, explained that the department did not want to prescribe pain medicine in combination with marijuana because there was no evidence that marijuana worked for noncancer patients and because the combination was unsafe."


where is the evidence of cannabis being unsafe or interacting w/prescription meds in a negative way.
 

GetUpStandUp

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While it officially becomes policy next week...everyone i deal w at VA hospital and clinics i go to IMMEDIATELY complied w the decision last year or whenever it was first announced..it felt good to be able to discuss it as part of the overall pain program and ptsd program..as good if not better then the first time i got to walk in to a mmj outlet
You said it, PTSD its real, and its wide spread, not only to vets, but public too. Tho I am happy the VA finally done something, I still have my reservations on trusting them, just cuz of the fucked up shit they represent, giving vets medical should not be an issue of debate, they deserve anytype of treatement available, if its weed, then light the joint for the man who gave his legs, or what not, to get all political means igoring the issue until, and thats fucked up.

I do feel a small amount of releif that it is now talked about. I rant at our current military personnel to stand up against the ranks, and lets stop the bull, defend our nation from threats abroad and here, nows then time for cleaning house, put your boot down, and turn against policy until everything is changed, well thats just how I feel seeing a man who left his legs in Iraq sitting outside VA all pist at the system who just denied his medical care who just bummed a smoke from me, hell bro have the pack, and I feel bad, really thats how I feel, now its time leadership feels it, and does something for once!
 

Bi0hazard

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SuperSilverHaze,

Ya, Cannabis very rarely interferes with other medicines, especially not in terms of ODing in any physically harmful way as there are no cannabinoid receptors on the Brainstem.

Cannabis can potentate (increase the potency) of Opioids - but if anything all it would result in is the patient having to take less OCs, Morphine etc... to get the same pain relief as before. This would help reduce the risk for addiction to pain pills as well as the other side effects that come with larger doses.

It would actually help patients already on opiods, in reducing their dependance on narcotics...
 
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