My buddy up in Maine was called the Chickenman also. He had ongoing battles with the USDA regs and had to get Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, the useless Senators to help him from being put out of business. It all centered around slaughtering. He had a certified facility, but the new regs were designd for the big producers, as previously noted. I grew mushrooms. Shiitake, oyster, reishi, several others. I had to fill out the USDA Census, but mine was every year. It was required. A couple times I was late in sending it in and they CALLED me to threaten under penalty of blah blah blah. And I was levied a fee to support a mushroom lobbying group in DC. That case went to the Supreme Court and the lobbyists won, forcing all mushroom growers to finance the fat cats in suits. It was infuriating. People have no fucking clue on earth what farmers, even micro niche farmers, have to go through. Now you can't have kids help you. When I first moved to Maine in the early 80's the blueberry crop was harvested by kids so they could earn back to school money. Also many adults raked berries and made some decent money if you went at it. Then they banned children (teenagers) from raking and there weren't enough adults so in came the Mexicans. Then there had to be housing( up to federal standards don't you know), as well as medical care. And the towns got stuck footing the bill for migrants who never left and were indigent. A perfectly good rural agricultural model blown to bits by the State. Just recently the USDA tried to ban folks from letting their OWN CHILDREN do chores on the farm. That rule was killed but it shows you where they are headed.
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REPORT: Superbug Dangers in Chicken Linked to 8 Million At-Risk Women
REPORT: Superbug Dangers in Chicken Linked to 8 Million At-Risk Women
A growing number of medical researchers say more than 8 million women are at risk of difficult-to-treat bladder infections because superbugs – resistant to antibiotics and growing in chickens – are being transmitted to humans in the form of E. coli.
“We’re finding the same or related E. coli in human infections and in retail meat sources, specifically chicken,” said Amee Manges, epidemiologist at McGill University in Montreal.
If the medical researchers are right, this is compelling new evidence of a direct link between the pervasive, difficult-to-cure human disease and the antibiotic-fed chicken people buy at the grocery store.
“What this new research shows is, we may in fact know where it’s coming from. It may be coming from antibiotics used in agriculture,” said Maryn McKenna, reporter for the Food & Environment Reporting Network, working on a joint investigation with ABC News.
After reading this, and watching the video, I'm sure glad that i purchase my chicken from my local farmers market that is hormone, anti-biotic and GMO free.
The Food and Drug Administration says 80 percent of all antibiotics sold in the United States are fed to livestock and even healthy chicken to protect them from disease in cramped quarters. It also helps the chickens grow bigger and faster.
“We’re particularly interested in chickens. They, in many cases, are getting drugs from the time that they were in an egg all the way up to the time they are slaughtered,” Manges said.
The chicken industry disputes the researchers’ conclusions, and quoted Dr. Randall Singer, associate professor epidemiology at the University of Minnesota’s Department of Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences, who said: “These studies have nothing to do with antibiotics in poultry product and further changes to antibiotic use in poultry will not change the potential human health risks associated with these foodborne E.coli.”
Researchers acknowledge that there is no study showing a definitive link between the E.coli in chicken and infection in women, but point out that a study like that would be unethical because it would require intentionally exposing women to the bacteria.
They say that there is persuasive evidence that chicken carries the same bacteria with the highest levels of resistance to medicine as causes the drug resistant infection in women.
See the National Chicken Council’s full statement on the ABC News report.
Adrienne LaBeouf, 29, is among the women suffering from a constant infection.
“It feels like I have some kind of infection that just won’t go away,” she said.
LaBeouf of Washington, D.C., has visited her doctor about her persistent bladder infection. “It was cured for a little while,” she added, “and then it comes back with a vengeance.”
ABC News’ Brian Hartman contributed to this report
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/07/11/superbug-dangers-in-chicken-linked-to-8-million-at-risk-women/
After reading this article, and watching the video, I'm sure glad that I purchase my chicken from my local farmers market that are free range, hormone, anti-biotic and GMO free.
REPORT: Superbug Dangers in Chicken Linked to 8 Million At-Risk Women
A growing number of medical researchers say more than 8 million women are at risk of difficult-to-treat bladder infections because superbugs – resistant to antibiotics and growing in chickens – are being transmitted to humans in the form of E. coli.
“We’re finding the same or related E. coli in human infections and in retail meat sources, specifically chicken,” said Amee Manges, epidemiologist at McGill University in Montreal.
If the medical researchers are right, this is compelling new evidence of a direct link between the pervasive, difficult-to-cure human disease and the antibiotic-fed chicken people buy at the grocery store.
“What this new research shows is, we may in fact know where it’s coming from. It may be coming from antibiotics used in agriculture,” said Maryn McKenna, reporter for the Food & Environment Reporting Network, working on a joint investigation with ABC News.
After reading this, and watching the video, I'm sure glad that i purchase my chicken from my local farmers market that is hormone, anti-biotic and GMO free.
The Food and Drug Administration says 80 percent of all antibiotics sold in the United States are fed to livestock and even healthy chicken to protect them from disease in cramped quarters. It also helps the chickens grow bigger and faster.
“We’re particularly interested in chickens. They, in many cases, are getting drugs from the time that they were in an egg all the way up to the time they are slaughtered,” Manges said.
The chicken industry disputes the researchers’ conclusions, and quoted Dr. Randall Singer, associate professor epidemiology at the University of Minnesota’s Department of Veterinary and Biomedical Sciences, who said: “These studies have nothing to do with antibiotics in poultry product and further changes to antibiotic use in poultry will not change the potential human health risks associated with these foodborne E.coli.”
Researchers acknowledge that there is no study showing a definitive link between the E.coli in chicken and infection in women, but point out that a study like that would be unethical because it would require intentionally exposing women to the bacteria.
They say that there is persuasive evidence that chicken carries the same bacteria with the highest levels of resistance to medicine as causes the drug resistant infection in women.
See the National Chicken Council’s full statement on the ABC News report.
Adrienne LaBeouf, 29, is among the women suffering from a constant infection.
“It feels like I have some kind of infection that just won’t go away,” she said.
LaBeouf of Washington, D.C., has visited her doctor about her persistent bladder infection. “It was cured for a little while,” she added, “and then it comes back with a vengeance.”
ABC News’ Brian Hartman contributed to this report
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/07/11/superbug-dangers-in-chicken-linked-to-8-million-at-risk-women/
After reading this article, and watching the video, I'm sure glad that I purchase my chicken from my local farmers market that are free range, hormone, anti-biotic and GMO free.
There's not much that can be done, much of what goes on is legal so all anyone can do is keep an eye on them and bring things to the publics attention when they do cross the line. Like the beef thing some law suits have been filed against them for false advertising nd I think I read somewhere that the US FDA or similar agency is forcing them to either change their recipe or change what they call it. Of course there is also the option to not patronize those types of businesses that offer inferior products but many people don't have the financial resources to afford that. Like Walmart, their normal everyday price is usually lower then the competitions sale price especially in the ones that have a full service grocery store in them. So to quit shopping their in protest for some people would actually mean paying a good bit more for groceries or eating less.
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Nathans famous
Nathans famous
All American and delicious served with sour D!
Nathans famous
All American and delicious served with sour D!
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Bread it, fry it
Bread it, fry it
Damn chicken is almost secondary to that krippy coating holmes...
Bread it, fry it
Damn chicken is almost secondary to that krippy coating holmes...
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hell fucking no.
Link me to fed level regulation/legislation on the wells please?
"They want to regulate and tax private rural wells"- I'm curious how military personnel view this and related issues. to poll each military branch, specifically below the brass, and see what they have to say about such legislation. Regardless of what they think my fear is you find exemption from this bullshit outside of the civilian+consumer world.
Good old american civis will have to live stealth everything.
Every facet of life, every human essential... groups who've permeated our government seek to control these in a totalitarian manner.
rainman ringin true-
"the revolution will not be televised"
They by and large don't give a fuck, because by and large they are brainwashed idiots.
Former service member speaking.
TSA is the new muscle baby, not the military. No Posse Comitatus (sp?) violation with the TSA. Setting up roadblocks, checking folks on buses,trains, hell I guess walking is transport so eventually if you are out for a stroll Big Sis Janet Napolitano can give your balls a squeeze and shoot their new lazer at you to see what your holding and haul you off to Guantanimo for all eternity without trial. Or maybe just sight you with a drone and pop you where you stand. There are stories up about the furious pace of drone flights over midwest farmland. WHY??? Some think they are mapping wetlands (the definition of a wetland to the EPA is anywhere any water has ever been, or the spillage from your well, or where you spit) so they can shut down agriculture like they have tried in the Central Valley of California. But who knows. Farming is hard, being made much harder in a time of rapidly rising food costs. Just more reason to be angry, or scared, or frozen with indecision, before the SHTF.
http://water.epa.gov/lawsregs/rulesregs/sdwa/gwr/regulation.cfm
There is plenty there about fed groundwater regs and basically they could check for anything if they REALLY wanted to. It's best just to stay off of their lists imo.
Drones flying around spying on folks is just beyond the threshold. There are no bag limits on drones!
There is plenty there about fed groundwater regs and basically they could check for anything if they REALLY wanted to. It's best just to stay off of their lists imo.
Drones flying around spying on folks is just beyond the threshold. There are no bag limits on drones!
how much ammo is enough? renting ammo storage lockers could be the next big thing.
edit: evidently 6000 rounds is not enough
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I processed a lamb yesterday. Reminded me of this thread.
Hmmm. Who looks fat and tasty today? Too many ram-lambs so it's one of them that has to go.
30 minutes later the carcass is ready for a wash and hanging in a buddy's cooler for a couple days. After that I will cut it into tasty free range hormone free chops and other yummy cuts along with some lamb burger.
Hmmm. Who looks fat and tasty today? Too many ram-lambs so it's one of them that has to go.
30 minutes later the carcass is ready for a wash and hanging in a buddy's cooler for a couple days. After that I will cut it into tasty free range hormone free chops and other yummy cuts along with some lamb burger.
ram-lambs... hahha
I used to eat meat. That lamb ain't doin it for me, but I'll tell you that that there chicken box looks super de funky deliciously good.
God bless you if you don't want a chip in your cattle, that sounds needless. Lets spend out time and money on getting a healthier and more clean meat processing industry. Lets focus on farms where the animals have a good life and the life of our whole environment and farm network is considered. Id like to think that chips are not necessary. If india can deliver 3 million vegetarian lunches per day with no paperwork, we can get the cow to the table with less trouble and bullshit then that.
I used to eat meat. That lamb ain't doin it for me, but I'll tell you that that there chicken box looks super de funky deliciously good.
God bless you if you don't want a chip in your cattle, that sounds needless. Lets spend out time and money on getting a healthier and more clean meat processing industry. Lets focus on farms where the animals have a good life and the life of our whole environment and farm network is considered. Id like to think that chips are not necessary. If india can deliver 3 million vegetarian lunches per day with no paperwork, we can get the cow to the table with less trouble and bullshit then that.
we have fangs man, it's meant for tearing meat. Or fighting. Or both.
you come up with the meat and I'll brew beer and grow veggies, because there's no fucking WAY I'm cutting the head off a baby sheep and cutting it's asshole out and shit. Fuck THAT. I'll eat it though.
when the zombies come i bet they eat vegans first as they prob taste better.
Yes!
I get to eat meat. I feel that I am privileged.
I've seen starving people; it is no fun.
R.Fortune
when i was poor i lived rural and actually ate better quality food from hunting ,fishing and local farmers. i sort of miss that connection to my food. we would process meat in groups and divide the work ,cost , end product. i have no prob butchering anything.i still have everything but my b saw.
Nothing quite like the taste of a freshly rustled steer.
