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OrganicBuds

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Hello everybody, just wanted to see what everybody has been using for teas this year? I use Microbeman's recipe from his website which is: (http://www.microbeorganics.com/)


A/ Recipe for a Diversity of Microbes; Nutrient Cycling
- measurements do not need to be precise; expressed in different units in brackets.

*compost/vermicompost – 2.38% max. (4.5 liters), (19 cups US), (4.5 quarts US) – reduce as required according to brewer and water quality

*unsulphured pure black strap molasses - I recommend using 0.50% (just under 1 liter), (4 cups US) (1 quart US) [but you can use a maximum 0.75% (1.4 liters), (5.9 cups US), (1.4 quarts US)] – reduce as required according to brewer and water quality

*fish hydrolysate(high quality) - 0.063% - (120 ml); (4 ounces)
Do not use chemically deodorized liquid fish!

*kelp meal - 0.25% max. (0.5 liter or 500 ml), (17 ounces US), (0.5 quart US), (2 plus cups)
NOTE: This is a maximum amount of kelp and you can experiment using less. This is using regular grade kelp meal for livestock. If you have soluble kelp, I recommend using smaller amounts. Sometimes kelp meal can initially delay bacterial multiplication.

*soft rock phosphate granules/powder - 0.063% - (120 ml) (4 ounces), (0.5 cup)
We grind up the granules into a powder with a coffee grinder

Length of Brew;
This will provide a CT with a microbial content of, bacteria/archaea and fungal hyphae (if present in compost) when brewed for 18 to 24 hours. When using our fungal inhabited vermicompost, the optimum time seems to be 18 hours for a bacteria/archaea and fungal brew. If brewed for 30 to 36 hours (and up to 42 to 48 hours if you have a microscope) there will be flagellates and amoebae (& some ciliates) as well, providing a functioning microbial consortia which is better for nutrient cycling in the soil/root interface. Because of the variations in brewing compost tea, it is better to examine the microbial content with a microscope and decide at what period of the brew you should apply it but if you do not have a microscope then use the CT between the time periods mentioned above for the desired effects.



I find this is a fantastic brew, but wondering what others are doing this season? Here is a pic or two of how things are going for me, as you can tell things are green and lush.

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supermanlives

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plants sure look happy. MM needs to be a plant superhero. cant go wrong following his advise. he is years ahead of me
 
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SeaMaiden

I know I need to either devise or purchase a better brewer, but it's just not in the cards right now. In fact, I'm chasing my tail this year just trying to keep up. So I'm doing the teas, but trying to make them less complicated.

I've currently got a Dr. Earth 4-4-4 tea going right now and it smells like GACK. It's the guanos, I'm sure.
 

magiccannabus

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I'm in a trailer with literally no spare dollars, so the heat has been pretty bad. I don't think I can brew in this weather. 80+ degree brewing is too hot isn't it?
 

OrganicBuds

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Yea, 80 + is too hot for sure. I also find that my pump adds a fair amount of heat as well.


SeaMaiden - Are you talking about an actively accelerated compost tea? Or are you just making a nute tea using bat guano? Also, if you need help making a brewer let me know, I have maid every one on Microbeorganics.com so I know the ins and outs if you decide to build your own. If not, Microbeorganics has them for sale soon also.
 
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SeaMaiden

I'm making a nutrient tea using the Dr. Earth, which is aerated, but will still smell like gack due to the guanos in the mix.

See, I did a kind of a weird thing this year when I discovered the power company had hired tree trimmers to hit our neighborhood. I had them dump two loads of chips onto the property. I then took one of those loads and created a bit of a flat(ter) area near our driveway. On top of that, I made piles of soil, and planted squash, cowpeas and corn. The cowpeas were eaten, decapitated, and never came back. The corn and squash are growing well, but now those little mounds of soil aren't providing everything, their roots have hit the wood chips and they're yellowing, harder and harder every day.

Thus, Dr. Earth tea with guanos, until I can get our trailer to the dump and emptied, then I'll go get myself a yard or two of compost.

Can I use compost as the mulch for potatoes...?

I will be building my own, I just need to (mis)appropriate the funds! And when I do, I'll be asking for help, you can be certain of that.
 

ClackamasCootz

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This is a question and not a suggestion: Would the water chillers used by serious aquarium hobbyists have a role to play? I was looking at some units at MarineDepot.com and this one looked affordable if it would accomplish what you want without impacting the AACT recipe.

Again not a recommendation but a site to look at equipment and then go buy products at real world prices.

Just curious for use in another application actually

CC
 
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SeaMaiden

The water has to be pumped through the chiller for it to work. What's that going to do to microbial life? I read MM state unequivocally that "a single pass" through an impeller won't cause too much damage to fungal hyphae, I can't recall what he said about the microbes themselves, but that's a single pass he's discussing.

God, I remember when I wanted to do a temperate tank. Chillers were not available commonly, so I got myself a small refrigerator. Unfortunately, the coils were copper, not a good mix with animals like sharks and invertebrates, so the temperate tank never came to fruition. Then a few years later chillers became commonly available, but you were going to spend easily several hundred on them, if not into the $1,000+ range.

What about evaporative cooling...? The pot-within-a-pot thing...? In absence of a chiller, if someone is in real need of an ACT, I would suggest the method used by fishkeepers. Two liter soda bottle, cleaned out and filled with water, frozen, dropped into the sump. Keep enough in rotation to survive the heat wave.
 

ClackamasCootz

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What about evaporative cooling...? The pot-within-a-pot thing...? In absence of a chiller, if someone is in real need of an ACT, I would suggest the method used by fishkeepers. Two liter soda bottle, cleaned out and filled with water, frozen, dropped into the sump. Keep enough in rotation to survive the heat wave.
That certainly makes sense!
 

ClackamasCootz

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Other than a couple weeks in August, heat is one of the things that Oregonians living west of the Cascades don't have to deal with for the most part.

Thankfully we were given 4 different strains of Spider Mites, 350+ strains of what gardeners call Powdery Mildew (info from OSU School of Agriculture and their School of Horticulture) but heat we're doing pretty well.

Yay! LMAO

CC
 
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SeaMaiden

I don't think I can adequately convey my pure and total envy at the gardens, trees, flowering plants (rhodies, oh my goodness THE RHODODENDRONS up there!), etc, in the PNW. Japanese maples, gorgeous specimens, EVERYWHERE. I have a thing for rhododendrons and Camellias, azaleas, those sorts of plants. Hell, I love lushness and greenery, period.

I just got myself some Indigo Rose blue tomatoes from the OSU program, they're on their way right now and they're candidates for some of my indoor space. Because, we need blue tomatoes.
 

ClackamasCootz

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There has been a horticulture industry here since 1850 and the Department of Horticulture at OSU came out of a need to provide information and help in 1909 or so.

Today the Oregon Association of Nurseries has over 1,000 members which offer over 7,000 different plants from around the world. Only California has a larger nursery industry.

This means that getting a soil mixed is about $1.00 per bag - you bring your materials and they have a standard set-up fee (usually around $50.00) and you go and have a beer. When you return the bags of soil are neatly stacked on a pallet. If you want it shrink-wrapped there is a small fee for that which is often free if you're a regular customer.

The big mix operation at Sun Horticulture in Hubbard, Oregon has a mixer which can mix enough potting soil to fill an over-the-road trailer every 8 minutes. That doesn't include bagging but the actual mixing cycle is this short. Which is why buying peat moss and amendments and doing your own potting soil is the only way to insure complete distribution in the mix.

BTW - Miracle Grow is THE largest user of all varieties of peat moss out of Canada - by far.

CC
 

Granger2

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Organic Buds,
Fanfreakintabulous results. Any ACT skeptics need only see your photos. My current indoor crop is looking great. I've been using EWC teas with MO, organic raw blue agave, liq. seaweed, nutritional yeast flakes [inactive yeast] 1tsp/gal, and a few other things as the mood strikes. The yeast flakes are high in B vitamins and amino acids. I've also been inoculating my Earth Juice nutes with EWC and bubbling for 36-48 hours.

It's only July. Your plants should be massive by fall. Please post picks at harvest, so we can all drool. -granger
 

Granger2

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Organic Buds,
Fanfreakintabulous results. Any ACT skeptics need only see your photos. My current indoor crop is looking great. I've been using EWC teas with MO, organic raw blue agave, liq. seaweed, nutritional yeast flakes [inactive yeast] 1tsp/gal, and a few other things as the mood strikes. The yeast flakes are high in B vitamins and amino acids. I've also been inoculating my Earth Juice nutes with EWC and bubbling for 36-48 hours.

It's only July. Your plants should be massive by fall. Please post picks at harvest, so we can all drool. -granger
 

OrganicBuds

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This is a question and not a suggestion: Would the water chillers used by serious aquarium hobbyists have a role to play?

CC

What about evaporative cooling...? The pot-within-a-pot thing...? In absence of a chiller, if someone is in real need of an ACT, I would suggest the method used by fishkeepers. Two liter soda bottle, cleaned out and filled with water, frozen, dropped into the sump. Keep enough in rotation to survive the heat wave.

This is something I have been pondering myself. I live in the bay area in cali and the weather does not get very hot here. However I do my brews in my garage and worry about the temps. My temps are never above 90 in the garage, but I fear with the heat from the air pump my water could be too hot.

Normally I try to make my teas when I see cooler weather in the forecast, and I crank up my house ac and leave the door to the garage open.

I will try the frozen water bottle thing during an emergency, as I don't see how that would hurt anything. Other than maybe breaking my vortex in my brewer. Great Ideas.
 
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SeaMaiden

This is something I have been pondering myself. I live in the bay area in cali and the weather does not get very hot here. However I do my brews in my garage and worry about the temps. My temps are never above 90 in the garage, but I fear with the heat from the air pump my water could be too hot.

Normally I try to make my teas when I see cooler weather in the forecast, and I crank up my house ac and leave the door to the garage open.

I will try the frozen water bottle thing during an emergency, as I don't see how that would hurt anything. Other than maybe breaking my vortex in my brewer. Great Ideas.
Ah, you're west of me, and just reading today's weather report I'm envious (I probably should have hit the garden before the computer!).

I personally have never experienced an air pump causing water column temps to be driven up. Inline, whether submerged or external, pumps, absolutely can and do drive up water column temps. Then again, I've only used aquarium pumps (diaphragm) and not blowers, I think you're using something more like a blower.

The soda bottle thing is used most often by reefkeepers, because you can't just dump ice cubes into a tankful of 85*F water or you'll drive the specific gravity down, and likely VERY quickly. That change will cause serious problems with osmotic pressure and you can quite literally burst your animals (IF the change is significant enough, I've seen it when moving black mollies from fresh to salt water or vice versa without allowing an acclimation period).

I think that you won't be able to just drop in a frozen soda bottle, but you might be able to hang one or more inside the brewer, so that the liquid falls over the bottle(s) as it's brought up through the brewer to then cascade down. Think: Pope Soap on a Rope.
 

heady blunts

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i use MM's recipe and i recommend it to pretty much every single person i have an ACT conversation with.

i have a really hard time understanding why people muck around with such a simple process.
 

OrganicBuds

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I agree Heady. I find that mixing up product brands and quality is better than mixing with the recipe. MM has does his homework, now it comes down to what products work best with his methods.
 

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