I dont have fish hydrolysate, can I add fish meal to my AACT tea for similar results?
Using fish meal in tea instead of fish hydrolysate?
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SeaMaiden
Good question! I shall bump for you. I have a dried hydrolized fish that I use, smells like an old aquarium and draws raccoons. If I put it into my teas it draws HORNETS. So lately I have been avoiding using it early on in the teas. I also have crab meal, which is great for an AACT and fungal growth, but once it's in there for a day it begins to smell like gack and also draws hornets.
I don't have fish meal, but I'd like to try it out. Every time I hit PVFS they're out.
I don't have fish meal, but I'd like to try it out. Every time I hit PVFS they're out.
A big issue with conventional fish meal is that it includes a product that is used as a preservative - Ethoxyquin and you can do the research on the problems associated with this material in livestock (cattle in particular I believe) and in pet foods. The problem is that in some commercial fishing operations Equinox is added to the holding tanks before it even hits the processing factories. Particularly the factories in Anacortes, Washington.
Organic fish meals do not contain Equinox and one version is sold under the Naturox label. Whether or not the organic fish meal would give you the results you're wanting in an AACT isn't something I can help you with and perhaps Microbeman can drop by and give you his advice.
But you'd definitely have to use an organic fish meal regardless.
CC
Organic fish meals do not contain Equinox and one version is sold under the Naturox label. Whether or not the organic fish meal would give you the results you're wanting in an AACT isn't something I can help you with and perhaps Microbeman can drop by and give you his advice.
But you'd definitely have to use an organic fish meal regardless.
CC
RanchoDeluxe
Member
CC- Tell me more. I use Dr. Earth's Fish Meal in my soil mix and their Fish Bone Meal at the bottom of my pots. Is there something funky goin on with this shit?
I made the switch because alfalfa is 99% genetically engineered and plain old bone meal and the whole mad cow thing.
As far as the OP is concerned the NPK is much different between meal and hydrolslate .
I made the switch because alfalfa is 99% genetically engineered and plain old bone meal and the whole mad cow thing.
As far as the OP is concerned the NPK is much different between meal and hydrolslate .
RanchoDeluxe
Best advice I would offer is to send them an email and ask them about where they're sourcing their meal from.
The farm stores usually carry fish meals which are preservative free and it's much, much cheaper. I checked the Dr. Earth fish meal product prices per lb. - whoa! I need a fishing boat and crew it would appear.
CC
Best advice I would offer is to send them an email and ask them about where they're sourcing their meal from.
The farm stores usually carry fish meals which are preservative free and it's much, much cheaper. I checked the Dr. Earth fish meal product prices per lb. - whoa! I need a fishing boat and crew it would appear.
CC
Good information so far. Wish I didnt know my fish meal probably has a preservative in it. That one really chaps my ass! Oh ICmag, I love you.
Good place to score your fish meal right here....for the quality and price I drive 100 miles for it.
http://www.concentratesnw.com/products/Retail%20products.htm
http://www.concentratesnw.com/products/Retail%20products.htm
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SeaMaiden
Got garum...?
RanchoDeluxe
Member
Yo CC- The 50lb bag with the lighthouse on it - comes from your area- is it good to go? Can't remember the name of the company. Yeah I bought a small box of Dr Earth just to give it a go. thanks man.
RD
The Light House label belongs to Wilbur-Ellis. They literally own the wholesale soil amendment industry. They sell to the packing houses that churn out all of the brands that the gardeners argue over about which is better - tough call since the base ingredients come from Wilbur-Ellis.
Their fish meal is good to use......
CC
The Light House label belongs to Wilbur-Ellis. They literally own the wholesale soil amendment industry. They sell to the packing houses that churn out all of the brands that the gardeners argue over about which is better - tough call since the base ingredients come from Wilbur-Ellis.
Their fish meal is good to use......
CC
I'd be happy to test a sample or two if someone wants to mail me some. If so, just email me through Microbeorganics dot com.
MM
Would a pound give you enough to run enough tests to feel comfortable giving a thumbs up or thumbs down?
I have the organic version (Naturox) and I could pick-up a pound of the non-organic meal at one of the nurseries tomorrow. I'd like to send you both versions to test if you wanted.
CC
Would a pound give you enough to run enough tests to feel comfortable giving a thumbs up or thumbs down?
I have the organic version (Naturox) and I could pick-up a pound of the non-organic meal at one of the nurseries tomorrow. I'd like to send you both versions to test if you wanted.
CC
To test it as a soil/microbe food I only need a 'lid'. [wonder if you used that expression for ounce in the old days?] Just a couple inches in a sandwich bag.
Was just a tot in the mid-70's..wasn't a lid 20 joints mannnnn??
In my neck it was an unweighed ounce varying in size.
Lids, eh?
Post SOL (Summer of Love '67) and it's now spring in 1968. The Age of Nixon was still a year away. The doomed and the damned awaited his arrival to clear out the Screwheads and then put them in positions of authority over their lives.
But back at the ranch in the Ortegas, bricks pressed using Coca-Cola syrup ("It the real thing!") were available for $45.00 and all you had to do was to hang out in front of the BOEL's Mystic Arts World (across from the infamous Taco Bell on PCH) and you'd be heading back to the horrors of Anaheim and Santa Ana in an hour or less with your brick.
Scale? We don't need no stinkin' scales and Ziplock bags were still a dream over at Dow Chemical so baggies were used. You stuffed the baggie as full as possible so that you had trouble getting the flap over to the other side which you held in place with Scotch Tape (transparent was preferred).
If the customer didn't get at least 50 'joints' then you were viewed as a cheat - an asshole or some other such name. Still - a brick would give you at least 25 'lids' and @ $10.00 there was plenty of money to be made.
Shit wasn't worth smoking but it was very ritualistic and that may have been more important than any perceived psychoactive benefit.
Then the Vietnamese Parklane cigarettes arrived on the scene. Then came Panama Red (with his White Horse Mesquilito). The halcyon days of sharing your 'lid' were over. There was money to be made and it all got pretty sad.
CC
Post SOL (Summer of Love '67) and it's now spring in 1968. The Age of Nixon was still a year away. The doomed and the damned awaited his arrival to clear out the Screwheads and then put them in positions of authority over their lives.
But back at the ranch in the Ortegas, bricks pressed using Coca-Cola syrup ("It the real thing!") were available for $45.00 and all you had to do was to hang out in front of the BOEL's Mystic Arts World (across from the infamous Taco Bell on PCH) and you'd be heading back to the horrors of Anaheim and Santa Ana in an hour or less with your brick.
Scale? We don't need no stinkin' scales and Ziplock bags were still a dream over at Dow Chemical so baggies were used. You stuffed the baggie as full as possible so that you had trouble getting the flap over to the other side which you held in place with Scotch Tape (transparent was preferred).
If the customer didn't get at least 50 'joints' then you were viewed as a cheat - an asshole or some other such name. Still - a brick would give you at least 25 'lids' and @ $10.00 there was plenty of money to be made.
Shit wasn't worth smoking but it was very ritualistic and that may have been more important than any perceived psychoactive benefit.
Then the Vietnamese Parklane cigarettes arrived on the scene. Then came Panama Red (with his White Horse Mesquilito). The halcyon days of sharing your 'lid' were over. There was money to be made and it all got pretty sad.
CC
2 finger lids $5, 3 fingers $7, zip = ounce = $10
Then of course came inflation in the early 70's and occasionally good smoke started hitting the upper Midwest. But suddenly the prices went up big time, and my homies were shopping for small planes. Mexi bricks were now old school and the money was better with columbian golds and reds.......Good times, bad times, I had my share.........scrappy
In the days of my youth, I was told what it means to be a man,
Now I've reached that age, I've tried to do all those things the best I can.
No matter how I try, I find my way into the same old jam. .....LZ
Then of course came inflation in the early 70's and occasionally good smoke started hitting the upper Midwest. But suddenly the prices went up big time, and my homies were shopping for small planes. Mexi bricks were now old school and the money was better with columbian golds and reds.......Good times, bad times, I had my share.........scrappy
In the days of my youth, I was told what it means to be a man,
Now I've reached that age, I've tried to do all those things the best I can.
No matter how I try, I find my way into the same old jam. .....LZ
How 'bout that fish meal eh.....kicks some butt...
Believe it or not I dug up some old lead looking thinghy's today from a newspaper printing deal....the masters or whatever they are called,,,that had headlines of the latest Nixon BS...I'm guessing 70-ish....chucked 'em in the trash...where it belongz.....
Tell 'ya what...VR is serious jaw clenching shit man.....
Panama Red...panama red....he'll steal yer' woman then he'll rob her head....
Scrap...I feel fortunate to have sampled Panama Red,REAL Thai stick,Colombian,and Acapulco Gold....whatever that was...
Quicksilver Messenger Service @ The Winterland doing a hour-long version of "Who Do You Love"
I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire,
I got a cobra snake for a necktie,
I got a brand new house by the road side,
Made out of rattlesnake hide.
I got me a chimney made on top,
Made from a human skull,
Now come on, take a little walk with me,
Now who do you love?
I walked forty-seven miles of barbed wire,
I got a cobra snake for a necktie,
I got a brand new house by the road side,
Made out of rattlesnake hide.
I got me a chimney made on top,
Made from a human skull,
Now come on, take a little walk with me,
Now who do you love?
Saturday night in the Organic soil forum^^^....I was drinking Captain Morgan Black with coke myself..good stuff~
So did we figure out who's sending MM a sample of dried fish?....I've got the Wilbur Ellis brand.
So did we figure out who's sending MM a sample of dried fish?....I've got the Wilbur Ellis brand.
