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Advice needed before I take the step of vert!

Talonted

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i think those racks are amazingly convenient, just need a run off trough and feeding will be so easy. My vert room had pots hung on an angle like yours but they clipped on to the walls, they didn't sit on racks.

I would guess that for distance from the bulb to the pot should be somewhere around 30". By the time it has finished growing they would end up somewhere around 15-18 inches away from the bulb, which is ok in my opinion for 600w bulbs.
 

~Shhh~

JETS
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I think the vert doughnuts maybe the way forward 16 plants is a good number for them. 8 per doughnut and your cooking on fire. Those cheese will need a decent veg 4-5 weeks though imo before they will do well for you. The racks need drainage and if your going to fix pots to them without the ability to move the pots out of racks then handwatering will fast become a royal pita using coco imo.

How many blumats do you have because those plants will dry out quick when they start to grow quickly. If you can spare the coin get the extra's you need for them.

Really looking forward to seeing this take off mate!
 

mrsmall

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Hey thanks for inspiration chaps i appreciate it,
i got lucky with the racks for sure, i got them for £10 each down wilkinsons, they got loads of garden stuff its like a growers sweet shop and much cheaper then the hydro shops without the paranoia an all,,
i got the patio blumat set of 12, and i am yet to use them, i had them since last nov but i been away for a while,,
right now i been budgeted a bit, need to recoup some cash and hope to get it together shortly
but as it stands i was going to start up there yesterday but after i brought the cb and fan the noise is atrocious so i need a varic fan controller up there an all as i dont want to alert my neighbour,,, i got another growing in a room downstairs an all so got to try keep it all going low key..............

cheers chaps hope this is up and running soon

ps shhh i got a 100l res and its on a maybe 1 foot stand? in the instructions in the blumat it says it needs 2 foot off the ground to be able to water, will the blumats be able to water the plants above still?
cheers!
 

mrsmall

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By the way the 16 cheese i talking about are in a different room, they is horizontal grow, but i got 44 cuttings so far from them that i hope to use for this one.
cheers
 

~Shhh~

JETS
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lol :D right gotcha now.... so you have 44 cuttings that are waiting to pop roots out.

re- the blumats, nah mate the rez must be higher than the highest pot. In our case that looks to be about 1m high or thereabouts. So if the 44 root you'll be running them all right? 2 week veg ftw I reckon if so.

Good thread on blumats, long but links to the good stuff on page 1 ;)

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111046
 

420ish

Active member
install the fan inside a insulated drink cooler.it will cut the noise down alot.using insulated ducting also helps.
 

mrsmall

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update

update

Well I finally got it together up in the loft,
I brought a tent 1.2mx 1.2m , and 180cm tall but had to cut it down to 170cm to make it fit, i got this for double insulation and also so i can use the loft area to dry some other stuff when its finished without interfering with this grow,
Have a 400w MH to veg and will upgrade to 600W for flowering

I have 6 cheese that i will veg for quite a while, and i have just potted 15 secret garden seed pink salads f2 autos, so i will test out the racks with the pink salads while the cheese are vegging on the floor!
Maybe a complete cock up this grow as it is getting hot up there but i have a 5" fresh intake into the loft with passive into the tent and a 6" CB outtake,
I really am doing this as a trial run and not phased if it fails, I intend to do as many plants as i can get on the racks after this test,
the plants are in coco and i have 1 hempy bucket which i actually really like! my first attempt and i love the ease of it!,
I have ionic coco nutrients,
cheers
 

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badmf

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I have used these sized pots/bags in the past and you need a runoff catchment set-up, you will be watering often and some always runs off. I did a stadium with these worked me hard as they dry up fast.
 

mrsmall

Member
Hi chaps,
well i only feeding very lightly at the moment the cheese, i only watered them a couple of times since they been in there, its my first use of coco ,,
i decided to do the autos in soil today and a few have spilt in there coco pots so when they root i will pot them up tp the soil, i have also potted 3 cheese into the soil today, i finding coco a pain actually, i would rather run a wilma as i mixed up the coco nutes other day to correct ec and ph , yet today the ph was up to 7.8????
the water is also around 3 days in the res before i mix the nutes so i really struggling to understand this ph situation,
if i got the blumats running it would be feeding far to high ph feed so i buggered with it and will just hand water mixed feed to the coco,
anyway this really is a bit of a test anyway, my next run will be the real deal
cheers:tiphat:
 

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I'm fairly new to vert too. The first thing I discovered is that the bulbs throw very little light out of the end (which resulted in light stress for all the plants I had used to fill-in the empty spaces).

Imo shelves/racks are a great idea, but they still take up valuable floor space. A great alternative is Marlo's safety fencing, but with a twist- I use drapery hanging pins on one gallon pots to hang them on the fencing. But this method is only doable if you are hand watering, and with one gal. pots I'll be watering a lot...
 

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