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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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ROOTWISE

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Couple More:

THE 5 PICTURE LIMIT SUCKS! And the fact that emoticons count SUCKS WORSE. OK MODS!!!!??????

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Nobeard

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Although not in the same league as the big dogs on this thread, a major improvement from my earlier efforts thanks to all the information so generously shared by everyone here. A tip of my hat to you all.

left to right: two Brazilian Green, courtesy of Luis at the now defunct version of BSC. One Critical Jack (a retired mother) and three unknown sativa crosses.
 
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OAP-J

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It says right on the website that Organic AG Products is a Direct Selling company........They're moving it out @ 30.00 a LB Just like the retail stores to Retail customers
You are correct. It does say that. There seems to be some confusion about what it means. Please take True Organics for an example. They are available only through distributors. They do not direct sell to farms or to retail stores.
Largely because OAP keeps it costs to farmers and growers down, distribution channels are not allways an option. OAP thrives on it's ability to direct sell to farmers, retail outlets, and distributors alike.
Direct selling small amounts of product, regardless of price, to the retail customer can create multiple problems. When OAP chose to move into the retail market, concessions were made.
The fact you cannot add less than a 55 LB bag to the cart says about all it needs to about that. It is not what I am here for, but I felt should be somewhat cleared up.

The amino acids in PPD raise brix levels in all plants. As an example, Blackberry fruit consistently go from 9-11 brix levels to 10-12 afer only several applications. Apples consistently raise 2 points, and peaches between three and 4 points after only one season of applications.


I am curious, are the growers here only using it as a foliar spray, or are you adding it to your drench compost feeds once a week also?

It is important to look at PPD as an amino acid fertilizer, and not strictly a nitrogen fertilizer. If you go to the website, you can access the lab report which shows the near complete lack of nitrates(and also heavy metals, as a plus.) The lack of nitrates and heavy metals are a sign of how clean the end product is, and also why it is able to be OMRI.

Once you look at is as an amino acid fertilizer, being it is 93% protein, and 80% amino acids, you will begin to wonder if you can use it in your flower.

Those of you who chose to play with root drench applications through your flower this year, will have it dialed by next.

I will say this, flowers application rates vary by strain, as well as what nutrients you choose to mix it with when applying.

There are multiple reasons PPD will have a place in flower cycles. Maybe we can discuss some of them here? I would love your feedback as well.:artist:
 
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theJointedOne

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Hey guys, just wanted to share a tip.

Many of us use remesh as a plant support structure. And while it works fantastic, it can be a bit difficult for the farmer who didnt plan properly. Sometimes the plants are too wide to put the cage on safely without taking out a branch or two here or there, but a branch here or there can be several pounds in the long run.

Well if your plants are to wide to get your cage over them, simply use some green tape and wrap them up, folding all the branches into them selves, and tie it off on a knot. Your bunched up tree is now easily caged up and once it does have the cage around it simply cu the green tape and let the branches go where you please.

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MedResearcher

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Can anyone explain what the Pure Protein product actually is?

I was looking for information on it from the AG site, I couldn't find details except that its fish based. Is it basically just 15-1-1 fish emulsion? If so, what makes it so superior to make up for the cost?

The kelp on the site, is close to 10x the cost of the kelp I normally use.

No disrespect meant, just trying to figure out what it is, and if its worth the price difference.

Thanks
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JOJO420

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Sometimes the plants are too wide to put the cage on safely without taking out a branch or two here or there, but a branch here or there can be several pounds in the long run.
Exactly my problem. The plants are 8 ft tall and 7 ft wide from the dirt to the top, add another 2 ft for the pot and I'm looking at 10ft up in the sky already :woohoo:... They need to be tied down or caged to maximize sun exposure. Imm just not sure what I'm gonna use to get the job done. It's too late for remesh and hortinova I feel. Maybe I will do the bamboo and fishing string thing, IDK. anyone have any ideas for plants this size?
 

OrganicBuds

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Home depot sells u-posts that are 7 ft tall. http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/cat...=None&Ntpr=1&Ntpc=1&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL

I take three of these and pound them into the ground a foot or so. Then I take "Suspend-It 12-Gauge 100 ft. Hanger Wire" from home depot also.

(the product is like 6th on the page, looks like just a wound up loop of silver wire)
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/cat...=None&Ntpr=1&Ntpc=1&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL

Then I take the wire and loop it around the stakes every foot or so. This is the strongest method I have come up with to wrap large outdoor plants. You can also save the posts and try to save the wire from year to year. The posts are great for all kinds of use.

I know the post are expensive but I buy 6 a year and now I have more than I need, happens quick.
 

mapinguari

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Exactly my problem. The plants are 8 ft tall and 7 ft wide from the dirt to the top, add another 2 ft for the pot and I'm looking at 10ft up in the sky already :woohoo:... They need to be tied down or caged to maximize sun exposure. Imm just not sure what I'm gonna use to get the job done. It's too late for remesh and hortinova I feel. Maybe I will do the bamboo and fishing string thing, IDK. anyone have any ideas for plants this size?

Get some skinny sapling posts and make a simple teepee around your plant. Put some Hortinova over the top, and use zip ties to add more pieces lower down if you need to. The netting gets its support from the teepee, and you can add more layers as long as you anchor them on the top. I did a Blue Dream this way last year and it did fine in 30 mph winds when it was full of buds.

"The turntables might wobble but they don't fall down..."
 

Ghabi

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Two weeks to parse through this entire thread, phewwww!!

A big thank you for all those who have contributed to my better education, you've all been quite inspirational. Hope you all keep up the good work (on this thread).

Peace.
 

Madhemp

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Exactly my problem. The plants are 8 ft tall and 7 ft wide from the dirt to the top, add another 2 ft for the pot and I'm looking at 10ft up in the sky already :woohoo:... They need to be tied down or caged to maximize sun exposure. Imm just not sure what I'm gonna use to get the job done. It's too late for remesh and hortinova I feel. Maybe I will do the bamboo and fishing string thing, IDK. anyone have any ideas for plants this size?

Its never to late for Hortonova. Bowling ball DP.jpg Here's a pic from last year. she has three layers of Hortonova. just keep making larger circles. you can drape it across the top and use tie wraps to tie it all up. Somewhere in this thread there is a picture of Mr. Hill using a homemade PVC rake type thing to drape the Hortonova when you're plants get large.
 

Yes4Prop215

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3 layers of hortinova phew!! damn reminds me of all the damn trellising i gotta do in the upcoming weeks....ganjaD had a good method, instead of individually wrapping each plant he would wrap the entire row like it was a big indoor scrog...3 rolls of trellis one on each side so each row looks like a subway train made of pot lol...
 

Aeroguerilla

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yea man fuck 3 layers if you do it right you only need 1.. all mine are trellised about 25-30' of netting per plant.. il get some fresh pics up tomo.
 
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