feeding schedule for outdoors pots

[SoG]

i could use some help with feeding schedule
im running for the first time in 20 years an outdoor crop
the plants are in a 27L pots with peat moss and plenty of sun,
which is doing a great job evaporating liquids;
my problem is the feed regiment and possibly the recipe itself,
can anyone recommend a schedule/recipe that works in this weather
i am using GH Flora line; which is doing a terrible job in the pots.
currently im feeding once in 3 days (F) then water the pots with pH'd tap water (W) in between with 5L every each time;the loop looks like this FWWWWW
my current feed recipe for 15L/4G batch is 6ml Micro 9ml Bloom twice a week

the girls are hanging in there for now, as i keep a close eye on them, made few rookie mistakes; had a pH lockup until i figured it out (stupid pots drifting),
then nute overproduce (happy fingers); root zone heat buildup (black pots+sun=bad); and now im seeing Nitrogen deficiency creeping in,
i need help figuring out a regiment that works ASAP
they cant take more abuse as we are getting into flowering in two three weeks time

 

[Bud+]

אם אתה משתמש בכבול נקי אני ממליץ קודם כל להוסיף 5 ליטר הומוס מעל כל עציץ כזה.
מעל ההומוס לשים שכבה של קש \ טוף \ אבנים \ מה שבא לך לחיפוי כדי להקטין את האידוי.

אם יש לך בעיה של חימום בית השורשים אולי אתה יכול לקבור את העציצים בתוך האדמה. זה גם ינמיך את הצמח וגם ימנע את החימום המיותר של העציץ.

 

[SoG]

Thanks Bud,
i worked out all my kinks so far accept for the feeding regiment
im used to a reservoir and ppm&pH meter to keep track of things
here im running with the basic necessities, ph strips etc

im using premium peat moss for media and flora for feeding (12-Micro 18-Bloom per Gallon divided into two weekly feeding)
i started boosting with Ecogan's (8.2.8) sea weed which seems to be doing a much better job on theses ladies outdoors so far

 

[bombadil.360]

those are looking really very nice man!

imo, more than the feeding, the problem is the medium you chose, peat moss...

at the botanical garden they sell a very nice soil mix, with coco coir and all the works, lightly fertilized, you can even germinate with it no probs.

but even using just peat moss like you are, in the pics, those ladies are looking fantastic.

peace!

 

[angeldust30]

sog,the only problem you have that i can see is not enough soil for your babies,they are huge and full of branches,they look great,you should take a close up on the damaged leaf's to try and show the deficiencies,but in general plants that grow so much mass on top would have generaly wanted to be in bigger pots
and if you fill your soil too early,meaning the roots have used all their given space to early,you can encounter a major lockup,and for me this is the worts kind because it can lock anything,it's a root lock not a nutrient lock,so the roots just wont eat,the only thing that's actually keeping your babies going i think is the air coming back in fast into the roots
because of the heat
i don't know wha tyou can do now,maybe chop off a bit of the plants from the bottom,because for those pots that's alot of green mass,you can try and see if they manage without adding more soil but in the future,outdoors i'd give them a bigger pot
i give my indoor plants 26lt pots and to be honest a sativa should have an even bigger one
you never want to run out of space in your soil before the flowering stage

 

[SoG]

thank you Angel
that's exactly what I've been going through, these pots through me off for loop
i got the biggest ones i could get my hands on 27L, they were moved up in three stages
first pot was one liter; then to 12 and afterward to the 27L you see in the pic

honestly i dont think they are all they could be for 10 weeks old
it feels as if im missing out on something there

some deficiency pics from last week, before i boosted with Echo Sea Weed 8.2.8

 

[bombadil.360]

when did you transplant from 12L to 27L? if it was not long ago, I doubt it is root-locked.

I still think the culprit is using pure peat-moss as medium... it has too many pH fluctuations and no good aeration.

 

[SoG]

Thanks Bombadil
they were moved to the 27L pots little over a month ago
the media is peat moss with perlite and houmus mix
its the premium stuff hydroshop sells

 

[SoG]

to the best of my knowledge the rule of thumb for pot size is 1 gallon per month of life cycle
these pots are 7 Gallon / 27 Liter; which should cover them for about 6 months before they get root bound

 

[bombadil.360]

you can try to top dress with pure worm castings.

this will help greatly with any pH issues and add readily available nitrogen.

stop feeding from the bottles for a week or two, and see how they react.

you can also add humic and fulvic acids, surely will be easy to find here, even though I have not searched for them.

they are also great alongside the worm castings at stabilizing mediums and providing oxygenation.

the peat should react very well with these too.

 

[SoG]

Thank you Bombadil, solid advice,
i already pulled out the regular feeding schedule for the past week
been giving them pH'd tap only, with a single sea weed 8.2.8 boost early this week

 

[angeldust30]

i'll be honest,i don't like rules of thumb,from my experience you rather have spair room than less room,and you need to react to each strain diffrently
meaning if you a have a long growing sativa plant,it will generaly want a bigass container,alot more than 27 lt
you can slow down the progress of the plant and contain it's size with smaller pots but you are risking certain locks
i prefer giving my root systems plenty of space
next time the plant is to use the smart pots alot earlier,btw for outdoors the smart pots are ideal
when you can move the plants easily the smart pots help provide air in the medium and you wouldn't need to cover it from the sides like you are doing now because the temp will be alot lower than in plastic containers
in general i think your plants look good but look like they would have liked a bit more space in the root system area
that's only from looking at it's structure and leaf and stem amount
the leaf's look ok,maybe the bottom older leaf's are a bit yellow but that is pretty natural with most plants,the older fan leafs usually die,especially if they don't get enough air and light or if your medium is totaly full the plant might give up on the older fan leaves
other than that they look healthy to me
maybe you can find a part that is higher in the plant and doesn't look ok to you
because for now the look pretty green and bush which is the whole goal here

 

[SoG]

Thanks Angel,
been keeping a close eye on them
unfortunately i'm running with extremely limited means here,
ill be looking for a larger pots, preferably clay ones due to the heat
i only know the strains of 3 out the 5,
1st (10 weeks) is an unknown medicinal strain,
(i think is a purple of some sort, i can see the purp coming out, i'm pretty sure its not stress purp and distinct odor is reeking out of her for few weeks now)
2nd and 3rd (9 weeks) are Nirvana's N.Y.P.D
4th (8 weeks) is another unknown medicinal strain
5th (7 week, she hasn't been growing much the past two weeks) Nirvana's Kaya Gold
im about to put out 25 mixed cuttings in the next day or two;
with almost no veg in 1L pots going str8 to flowering in a SOG + lollipop style under the sun

 

[SoG]

i figured i should post an update
as of now, they seem stabilized under these conditions with the flowing regiment
they are watered (W) twice a day with 5L each; once in midday the other late at night
they are feed (F) twice a week preferably in midday
the loop looks like this - FWWWWW (always pH'd to 6.5)
6.0ml Micro 9.0ml Bloom per US Gallon
1.6ml Micro 2.4ml Bloom per Liter

 

[187020]

Nice pots

Nice pots

Can you smell shawarma from up there? Peace homies

 

[angeldust30]

sog take a pic of the outdoor clone sog
i've always wanted to try that but i don't have the secure space
good luck with the outdoor growing man

 

[SoG]

here you go
third full day under the sun