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Selfed seeds question

pip313

Member
Whats a hermie, where do you draw the line? Is a plant that always throws nanners but barely any and at the end of flower a hermie? If I grew the seeds are they feminized or hermies? I get one nanner per bud on the top dead center of the bud. And yes its a nanner, bannana shaped and colored and in a group of around 5 as one "flower". Most nuggs are nanner free. Strain galaxy god bud, its the only one I have that hermies out of 5 , its not the room or grower. I average 30 seeds a pound so its not bad at all. Is this just natural rhodelization? Why are my non galaxy plants never pollenated?

What traits does the seeds have? Can I grow them and experience variety? I have a very strechy plant I want to shorten can I grow a dozen seeds and find a short one? Is there a decent chance one of the seeds are not gonna hermie at all?
 

pip313

Member
I know its a lot of questions but I did try to find the answers myself but can't and i'm sure others have these questions. Especially is a plant that throws a few nanners a hermie or is it normal at the last week of flower?
 

Galactic

Member
Whats a hermie(exhibits male + female sex organs, stamen + calyx respectively), where do you draw the line? Is a plant that always throws nanners but barely any and at the end of flower a hermie (it is splitting hairs on use of the term "hermie" and you would do best to strike it from your understanding of cannabis, the plant in question is more of a female exhibiting male flowers due to genetics, environmental stress, grower input)? If I grew the seeds are they feminized or hermies (if male flowers is BC genetics, then it is likely those genetics will pass. If male flowers is BC environmental stress, you must reconcile, then if persisting, consider genetics. If male flowers is BC grower input, you must reconcile, then if persisting, consider environmental stress... And so on)? I get one nanner per bud on the top dead center of the bud. And yes its a nanner, bannana shaped and colored and in a group of around 5 as one "flower". Most nuggs are nanner free. Strain galaxy god bud, its the only one I have that hermies out of 5 , its not the room or grower. I average 30 seeds a pound (only lying to yourself, if 30 seeds a pound made you so concerned, youre either lying or a perfectionist, in which case all of these questions are lol. Youre just lazy. Like me. So im going to stop here.)so its not bad at all. Is this just natural rhodelization (likely no)? Why are my non galaxy plants never pollenated?

What traits does the seeds have? Can I grow them and experience variety? I have a very strechy plant I want to shorten can I grow a dozen seeds and find a short one? Is there a decent chance one of the seeds are not gonna hermie at all?
:huggg:
 

pip313

Member
I am a perfectionist not a liar. I am many things but a liar is not one of them. People like growing buds not seeds and a perfectly seed free harvest at over a gpw is what "everyone" is looking for right?
 

jayjayfrank

Member
Veteran
hermie or intersexed female is the question. indoors? greenhouse? iv read that the same genetics may not 'hermie' when grown outside.

as for GPW+ of sensimilla being what "everyone" is looking for, maybe not. unless running commerical. id be perfectly fine with seeded sub-tropic columbian gold, know what im sayin.

as for where the line is thats up to you. you have narrowed it down to the genetics themselves, if you do not want 30 seeds per pound the only way around that would be different genetics right? because its not the grower or the room. so that becomes your call.

also, not all nanners are fertile. iv read some dj short blueberrys shoot 'blanks'.

even if its a sport pheno, i would not invest the time and energy to find out 'how hermie' the seeds might be.
 

hereigrow

Member
If your plant exhibits both sexual organs it is considered hermy. If a hermy self pollinates you get more hermy offspring with a small chance at a pure female. I f you pollinate a 100% female with thr hermy u get all female offspring with varying traits from both doner plants. U might find what your looking for in a shorter plant then.

True herm is actually a rare anomoly and a sign of weak genetics. Most plants herm as a ditch effort to ensure survival of the speicies( rhodelization). Or stress
 

shmalphy

Member
Veteran
I was about to post a similar thread lol. I actually popped a seed from a hermy (bubba kush fem freebie from attitude boooo!) that pollinated a good strain I got called Deep Funk from Bodhi (deep chunk x sour d) so that was a hermy too, so that pollinated a strawberry cough from dutch passion, so I said what the hell and ran out the 2 seeds (strawbubbafunk) found and one was throwing nanners and the other doesn't so it seems after a few generations you start to breed out the intersex traits.

I also have a strain a friend made from a purple urkel hermy that pollinated a Amethyst x (Holland's Hoop x Jamacian) (yes it was spelled hoop on the seed pack and it sucked so we called it that like it was hollands asshole lol) and that threw nanners. I am going to try to run any seeds I find in OTHER plants but I never run self'd seeds.

It is interesting to see a good cross even if you get a few seeds, especially if you are a hash maker, seeded bud is just en excuse for a really big run lol.
 

supermanlives

Active member
Veteran
lots of strains shoot a few nanners late in flowering. i wouldnt use the resulting seeds for a crop but rather to find a new mom. alot of hermie bagseed has produced some nice plants. but if your doing a production run you dont want hermies .
 
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pip313

Member
So superman are you saying my selfed seeds can produce a non hermie? I would love that and it is a barely hermie that im working with.
 

supermanlives

Active member
Veteran
yes . people dont realize alot of bagseed is from herms. i have found several nice plants over the years from random herms. but like i said .ok to find a new mom not so good for production run.
 

pip313

Member
Great now I have galaxy god bud seeds, I don't mind a few hermies if growing from seed as long as a few don't. Heck even if I only supress the hermie down to only showing under stress instead of at end of flower the seeds would be a improvement.

I saved around 50 seeds from previous grows so I should find a plant just like mine now except with way less strech and hermie tendencies?

what is a good number to grow, I never had a large amount of 1 strain and I will obviously be killing every plant that shows a nanner.
 

handyandy

Active member
In a old magazine I read that late in flower like week 6 or so you can light stress your girl and she will throw some female pollen. I did this about four years ago with some awsome AK47 and gave some to my mom. I stoped growing for two years and threw everything away $4000 in stuff and about a pound of bud :( Well decided I like myself more when I smoke so started growing again. Mom saved the seeds!!!!! well I ran them and the baby is the best plant I have ever grown! better than recently purchased Ak47 G13 and Blueberry. God bless my Mom! My next run will be 30 clones from my Moms seed and 3 g13 clones.

I thought that late light stress was how you made Fem seeds.
Worked for me. Work sooooooooooooo fen good!!!! Proof God is real!!!
 

Don Dump

the man doctors said would never moonwalk again
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My qleaner cutting is pretty much the same as what op describes. it will visibly herm under stress, or I will just find a branch or 2 with banans on it for no reason. but it won't pollinate other strains just itself. and seems they are mostly sterile the entire room should be seeded but only the bud directly where the bananas are is seeded. outdoor it behaves like a different plant and has never hermed

I have a pile of qleaner self seeds that I saved might try a couple of them some day just to see
 
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