What's wrong?

[greenthumbdub]

I've been battling this problem for a few weeks to a month, can't seem to figure it out so here I am...

Some leaves have been twisting and just looking bad in general

How long has this problem been going on? 3-4 weeks
Are you growing in a PVC grow tent? (example: Hydrohut or any other non brand tents) No
What system are you running? (DWC? Ebb flow? Aero? Water Farm? Flood Tables? and so on...) Coco
What STRAIN are you growing? Chem D, Wifi, White Jones, GSC
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) Both
What is the age of your plants? They are mother's so maybe 2-3 months
How long have they been in there mixture they are in now?(coco,soiless etc..) 2-3 months
How tall are the plants? anywhere from 1 foot to 4 feet
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Veg
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) Coco
What is the Water temperature?
What color are your roots? White? Brown? Are your roots slimy? white as far as I can tell
What Nutrient's are you using?(If growing soiless) H&G
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? (If using soiless) Every other day
How often are you giving nutrients? (If using soiless) Every other day
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using .6-.8 ec
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.5-6.1 just depends
How often are you testing your pH/PPM/EC/TDS? every time I mix water
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equipment? drops
When was your last watering?
What is your water temps?
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
How often do you clean your system: example: Flush out water replace with clean water and nutrients?
What size bulb are you using? 600w
How old is the bulbs you are using? couple months
What is the distance to the canopy? 20 or more inches
What is your RH Factor(Relative Humidity)? 50-60
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 72-82
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? sealed
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no, the ac air hits the top of the plants sometimes
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hard
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? RO
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched Cloned from a week or two ago
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? Floramite, Avid, Azamax; Every 5-6 days I have been rotating
Are plant's infected with pest's As far as I can tell, no but I have been treating in case that was the problem

 

[greenthumbdub]

If anyone out there can help I would appreciate it.. I need to take 50-100 clones within the next week or so and If I can't get these girls healthy enough they probably wont root for me

They seem generally healthy, the new growth comes out nice but then a day or two later they just start looking bad, especially on the side of the plants facing the bulb (my bulb is vertical, bare bulb)

The backsides of the plants look pretty decent but I see some twisting and curling in a few spots there as well

 

[dramamine]

They need about twice the amount that you're feeding them. They're starving. The leaves closest to the light usually show deficiencies first because they are processing much more light.

 

[greenthumbdub]

They need about twice the amount that you're feeding them. They're starving. The leaves closest to the light usually show deficiencies first because they are processing much more light.

1.2-1.6 ec in veg? Seems high, I've never had to go near that for happy plants but if I need to try and up the feed I will.

I've been worried about potential broad mites but am I just paranoid? There are some raised edges/canoe leaves that may not show up well in the pics

 

[VerdantGreen]

if you havent got mites i would back off on the toxic chemicals, every 5-6 days may be too much. that stuff can burn the plants if you overdo it.

the problem looks more like heat stress and perhaps some overwatering... but hard to say from the pics

VG

 

[TripleDraw27]

stasis hasn't come in here yet to say Broad mites?

 

[Ashtonkusher]

Up the ppm. And lower the ph alitle. How close is the light what is the temp of the room?

 

[legalizeDK]

too much water

 

[thefanfx]

well it's tricky

well it's tricky

it looks like over-watered but the leafs are green and healthy so it can be the opposite thing not enough water and food

over-watering and not enough feeding have same symptoms the leafs are going down

so check the soil if it is too dry after 24-48hours it means the water/food is not enough

the plants are not small now , they can eat more and more with the time

for example if you feed them with 300ml at the begining , after 1-2 months you have to double the portion so 600ml as well in short terms if you feed them each 3 days at the beginning now you have to feed them in 2 days

so basically more food in less days when they grow up , same as humans

don't worry leafs are green the battle is not lost

my conclusion they need more food and water

GL

 

[loudthoughts]

yep kinda looks like overwater..... maybe not enough food. dont know how much youre feeding at any given time though...

 

[Ins&Outs]

possibly b m

possibly b m

from the looks of it its broad mites. there really spreading you better get on it and start spraying

 

[Ins&Outs]

floramite and azamax wont kill broad mites but avid will in a series of 3 sprays afew days apart. i would try spinosad then avid then spinosad then triple action neem . good luck man remember 10 to 14 days with out doing anything shit gets ugly.

 

[joe fresh]

lack of nutes....overwatering....leads to ph issues...

avid, floramax, azamax...every 5-6 days???that will def contribute to your plants leaves looking bubbly the way they do, these chems should be applied as on the label, not all 3 every 5-6 days...

cut down on the water...up nutes to 1.6 EC...and check and verify the runoff ph....last but not least...the chems should not be used on a regular as you are using them, if you get any bugs you are sure to have them for a while because you will be making super bugs immune to these pesticides