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An Interesting Answer to No-Knock Warrants

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greenmatter

no knock warrants are absolute bullshit in most cases. they look great on shows like Cops though:tiphat:

denver police have used them and got the address wrong a couple times in the last few years( on one i think they had a denver bronco player along for the ride while they shot the wrong guy), but they still issue the damn things. IMHO it will keep happening until they shoot some congressman's kid by accident ...... at that point the "ooops shit happens" excuse will have it's wings clipped and it will stop

it really doesn't shock me that the po-po are not to happy about it ..... kind of like telling gang bangers that 20 on 1 is not considered a fair fight ......... it's just how they roll yo
 
This may work in favor of weed reform. If cops are scared to serve manufacturing warrants they might curb anti-reform lobbying.

IMO, it's a crazy solution to a bad problem that still needs a fix. These types of solutions tend to make more problems, not less. The NRA is off it's rocker.


Hog-Wash...all this will accomplish is that cops will go harder after least likely violent offenders (read MJ)///

Path of least resistance for the bacon patrol, outside of Hoosierville it's business as usual.
 

FoCo(No.Co)

Barned
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you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US

Some nutter could kill people with about 10,000 items at your local hardware store. Should we ban ropes, hammers, saws, pesticides, and rat poison too?
 

bentom187

Active member
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WARNING EXTREME VIOLENCE/DEATH ,meaning dont click it,if your very sensitive to such situations.

don not be affraid they are here for your protection.

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greenmatter

you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US


you have a point, but the genie is already out of the bottle over here. it sounds insane and it sure as hell won't solve anything but having a gun is a good idea in a country where the guy breaking into your house has one already.

"damned if you do and damned if you don't" is the way i see the gun thing these days
 

rives

Inveterate Tinkerer
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you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US

You just have to love people who think that their circumstances are applicable to everyone. A quick search shows that there are roughly 1160 people per square mile in England. In the county that I live in, there are 7.5 people per square mile. The response time here for a Deputy Sheriff can be well in excess of 2 hours, which is about a half of what it is in some of the even more rural portions of the state. I frequently have bears and myriad other wildlife wandering through my yard, rabies is not rare, and right now there is an outbreak of distemper in foxes.

The homicide rate here is approximately 4 times that of England and Wales combined for the last several years. Bear in mind that with our population rate, that means an average yearly homicide incidence of 2.
 

irobot sd

Member
Meanwhile on headline news theres a NYPD officer charged with shooting an unarmed man and another story of a border patrol using excessive force & shooting a unarmed teen. IN THE BACK. 2 dead civilians. All over alleged drug charges. LEO's are armed & deadly.
 

PoopyTeaBags

State Liscensed Care Giver/Patient, Assistant Trai
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you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US


thats some horrible thinking. theres a reason we are allowed to have guns in the US. Do you know why? ITS SO WE CAN PROTECT OURSELFS FROM THE GOVERNMENT. Thats the reason for our gun rights.


I always love that backassward thinking of if you take the LEGAL guns away some how all the criminals would no longer have there illegal guns... like wtf... lol
 
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BrnCow

you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US

It's kind of hard to have any gun crime when there are none...but we can still defend our families and property in the US...in a country with 350 million people, the number of gun crimes over a ten year period is miniscule...with guns! but you are right - you can't fix dumbass and most are not qualified to fix crazy. Samuel Colt made all men equal!
 

wildgrow

, The Ghost of
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Poopys got it. Unfortunately the gov't has bigger and better guns, missles, fighter jets and trained killers to use them.

Good thing the US gov't isnt overly large and corrupt.

That was supposed to be funny.

Put...The...Gun...Down...

See, no more jokes.

Ill just calmly back away now.
 

supermanlives

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hell ya . if cali would adopt this law that would be cool.you dont need a gun a crossbow bolt will easilly go through a bulletproof vest . but ya only get one shot before your riddled with bullets
 

Yikesy

Member
Lmao at the sentiment in this thread.its lose-lose! The cops kick down your door by accident (thinking they were at a different house) you fight back and get killed, the cop that kills you is still acting in self-defense, stays on the job, and the department pays your family a few million...but you are still dead. You can fight back all you want, but the fact remains, you aren't as well trained as a cop, you aren't ready for the entry, you are going to lose, period. Cop kicks in your door, right or wrong, you should be on the floor.
 

PoopyTeaBags

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Lmao at the sentiment in this thread.its lose-lose! The cops kick down your door by accident (thinking they were at a different house) you fight back and get killed, the cop that kills you is still acting in self-defense, stays on the job, and the department pays your family a few million...but you are still dead. You can fight back all you want, but the fact remains, you aren't as well trained as a cop, you aren't ready for the entry, you are going to lose, period. Cop kicks in your door, right or wrong, you should be on the floor.



its more like you dont have enough buddies with guns to win when 20 cops with guns kick in your door. It not about training its about the laws that protect them and them having absolutely no accountability.

Your right though people will die. But they do anyways everyday by the police so whats the difference? The difference is that more people will be less scared to shoot back. Once a few of them start falling they may start checking there facts and making sure they have right houses and maybe not be fucking rambo with a hard on.
 
you shouldnt be allowed guns... for the civilian population, it means sometimes a nutter could own one, and end up killing innocents, which happens in america regularly
not even the cops in the UK have guns and our gun crime is minescule compared to US

you can have my gun when you can pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Meanwhile on headline news theres a NYPD officer charged with shooting an unarmed man and another story of a border patrol using excessive force & shooting a unarmed teen. IN THE BACK. 2 dead civilians. All over alleged drug charges. LEO's are armed & deadly.

if you're gonna make statements like this you have to provide details and links or its all just so much bullshit.

Lmao at the sentiment in this thread.its lose-lose! The cops kick down your door by accident (thinking they were at a different house) you fight back and get killed, the cop that kills you is still acting in self-defense, stays on the job, and the department pays your family a few million...but you are still dead. You can fight back all you want, but the fact remains, you aren't as well trained as a cop, you aren't ready for the entry, you are going to lose, period. Cop kicks in your door, right or wrong, you should be on the floor.

so we should all just laugh and surrender?

...and btw, the whole point was if some scumbag kicks in your door and you shoot the fucker in the face and he turns out to be a cop, ...in Indiana at least that means you were defending yourself and your home, something every citizen should have the right to do.
 

DiscoBiscuit

weed fiend
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... in Indiana at least that means you were defending yourself and your home, something every citizen should have the right to do.

Honey... hush. You're only covered if the forced entry is illegal. Trouble is, you won't know whether the cop you shot received a warrant for your arrest until after the smoke clears.

Your "cold dead fingers" crack is just as pathetic as Moses. If the goon was alive he'd recognize he has more gun freedoms today than he did ten years ago.

Yes Virginia, you may pack your shooter in more circumstances than you could ten years ago. In many cases, you may conceal it.

Go ahead, admit you're a toter. Spray bullets in the air and celebrate like Taliban Ted Nugent.

Just drop that corny line, it's pathetic.
 
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