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CA mom in Butte co. has baby taken and charged with child abuse for being 215 patient

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SeaMaiden

Wow! That's great news about the vote. I read about this mom a week or two ago and I find it deeply concerning.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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Handley defeated......54 % against......now what will they do?

they have spent 100's of thousands and got defeated twice now.......at this point it is refreshing to see the people can override the supervisors who make stupid laws........I really hope we can see this sort of thing in other areas of California....the people have spoken with their VOTE.

:laughing:
fuck the government! fuck the police!
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Aeroguerilla

I’m God’s solider, devil’s apostle
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yet the hormones that they feed the cows have no effect on us right? just another way to come after us. FUCK AUTHORITY!
 

Yes4Prop215

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glad to hear it didnt pass even though it doesnt affect me since i got 20+ acres...but still, FUCK those punk ass politicians who tried to get this passed, hopefully they are removed from office next election and a message is sent to the establishment here...
 

headband 707

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I question the ADD and ADHD part of this from Wiki..

I question the ADD and ADHD part of this from Wiki..

A study of the development of 59 Jamaican children was conducted with the children being monitored from childbirth to age 5 years. One-half of the sample's mothers used marijuana during pregnancy; they were paired with non-using mothers who matched age, parity, and socioeconomic status. Testing was done at 1, 3, and 30 days of age with the Brazelton Neonatal Behavioral Assessment Scales, and at ages 4 and 5 years with the McCarthy Scales of Children's Abilities test. Data was also collected from the child's home environment and temperament, as well as standardized tests. The results over the entire research period showed no significant differences in development testing outcomes between using and non-using mothers. At 30 days of age, however, the children of marijuana-using mothers had higher scores on autonomic stability and reflexes.<SUP id=cite_ref-pmid1957518_13-0 class=reference>[14]</SUP> The absence of any differences between the exposed and non-exposed groups in the early neonatal period suggest that the better scores of exposed neonates at 1 month are traceable to the cultural positioning and social and economic characteristics of mothers using marijuana that select for the use of marijuana but also promote neonatal development.<SUP id=cite_ref-BirthDefects2_14-0 class=reference>[15]</SUP> Similar studies have shown that the use of cannabis while pregnant might lead to children developing ADHD and ADD like symptoms, most of the subjects also had higher IQ's than their peers.<SUP style="WHITE-SPACE: nowrap" class=Template-Fact>[citation </SUP>
 

SacredBreh

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^^^^^ Not a valid study! No way to isolate the variables, no double blind to eliminate prejudice in the researchers, sample size WWWwwwaaaaayyyyy to small to indicate anything casual, let alone correlate which again would show nothing.

Just because 30 sets of tires wear out on 30 out of 59 cars in Colorado doesn't prove tires are bad for cars...... that is how stupid that anecdotal, pseudo-study truly is..... This kind of crap passing as science is why the ignorant bastards took those kids away.

No offense to the poster.. comments were about the "study" only.

Peace
 

Dr.Dank

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Well my mother medicated with (cannabis) while she was pregnant with me, she also smoked a joint right by me when I was born. I don't think there's anything wrong with a mother getting her pains and cramps away with well grown cannabis it's just natural IMO if you aren't hurting anyone around you or yourself then you are free to do what you want.
 

headband 707

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^^^^^ Not a valid study! No way to isolate the variables, no double blind to eliminate prejudice in the researchers, sample size WWWwwwaaaaayyyyy to small to indicate anything casual, let alone correlate which again would show nothing.

Just because 30 sets of tires wear out on 30 out of 59 cars in Colorado doesn't prove tires are bad for cars...... that is how stupid that anecdotal, pseudo-study truly is..... This kind of crap passing as science is why the ignorant bastards took those kids away.

No offense to the poster.. comments were about the "study" only.

Peace

LOL LOL LOL,,, seeing as though there are soooo many studies done of expecting mothers then I guess we know all there is to know..
The study is just a small indicator but I'm sure they were not expecting the results which is the point .. The ADD and ADHD part is very questionable in the study. I believe it was a double blind so not to worry about that.
Do I think the test might have been tested by ppl that had bias? YES absolutely...
This woman needs to SUE there ASSES RIGHT OFF needless to say.. There is NO indication of breastfeeding mothers smoking cannabis harming babies in any WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM! PERIOD!!!! stay safe headband 707:biggrin:
 

headband 707

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yet the hormones that they feed the cows have no effect on us right? just another way to come after us. FUCK AUTHORITY!


Yeah I find it interesting you say this.. I have been traveling and they don't put any of that shit in their cattle or milk around the world only in our country why is that? The milk in the other places I visited was just fine better infact.. What exactly are we paying for when they are putting all this shit in our milk? Headband 707:comfort:
 

Hydro-Soil

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The article doesn't say if she was able to resume breast-feeding the kids when she got them back. The gov made her take marinol to get the kids back. Is it ok then to breast feed while taking marinol? I don't see the difference in marinol or marijuana while breast-feeding. Both were prescribed by a doctor. Government agencies are out of control.

Marinol is a synthetic chemical. Not only that, it doesn't have ANY of the additional cannabinoids found in cannabis that are medicinal and regulatory of the THC (or fake thc in this case).

I would feel more comfortable having a mother breastfeed on Marinol than Soma.... but I'd much rather she were using quality cannabis, most likely a sativa dom.

My kid wouldn't even be here without cannabis. I'll stack her up against the next 100 kids any day. Hell, make it 1000. :D

Stay Safe! :blowbubbles:
 

mayan

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They should do that "ADD" "ADHD" with mothers/kids exposed to sugar and/or television and let's see how the stats come back, eh?
 
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