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audioaddict
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Just be aware that if caught with this style of grow, it is a different kettle of fish to just running a tent in your spare bedroom.
I know that is stating the obvious, and you surely don't need to be told that, but it is always worth reiterating.
I know that is stating the obvious, and you surely don't need to be told that, but it is always worth reiterating.
Lol i've got the gonads of a natt when it comes to growing.. Two little dwarf autos for me atm.. Roll on the kids growing up then I can set a room up again.
smokeandmirrors
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It took me over 30 viewings and 6 months to find the right place mate
My only advice would be don't rush and end up with a bad spot, I could have rented 5 or 6 places when I was looking, but held out for the perfect place and I've been there 6 years now and counting .
For me the perfect Place had
- no landlord - company owned
- no contractors ever onsite - gardeners / maintenance workers / care takers etc
- last tenant had it 5 years- so its a long term deal
- last tenant was a garage so decent power to property
Personal landlords bring a lot of problems that company or government property don't . I shouldn't need to explain why ... People bring problems
A good example of company owned property is a recent bust near me in a office block in a town centre, owned by govt
It was busted after a 2 year triad grow was found out by the ext door neighbour.. Turned out it was a empty office block that had been sat there for years, the council just had no policy of inspecting there commercial properties unless there was a problem . Hell if the cant be bothered checking up on empty places they sure as hell will be easy to deal with when your paying them .
I've had no inspections in 5 years, my last quarter elec bill was 7 grand
Go figure lol
My only advice would be don't rush and end up with a bad spot, I could have rented 5 or 6 places when I was looking, but held out for the perfect place and I've been there 6 years now and counting .
For me the perfect Place had
- no landlord - company owned
- no contractors ever onsite - gardeners / maintenance workers / care takers etc
- last tenant had it 5 years- so its a long term deal
- last tenant was a garage so decent power to property
Personal landlords bring a lot of problems that company or government property don't . I shouldn't need to explain why ... People bring problems
A good example of company owned property is a recent bust near me in a office block in a town centre, owned by govt
It was busted after a 2 year triad grow was found out by the ext door neighbour.. Turned out it was a empty office block that had been sat there for years, the council just had no policy of inspecting there commercial properties unless there was a problem . Hell if the cant be bothered checking up on empty places they sure as hell will be easy to deal with when your paying them .
I've had no inspections in 5 years, my last quarter elec bill was 7 grand
Go figure lol
smokeandmirrors
Member
Oh and like Mat said have lots of cash
If I were to set up an imaginary op I would budget the following
1 year rent upfront - 20k
equip for 50 kw room - 15 k
Electric hookup - 8k
Buss Rates 1 yr - 6k
Cover business stock - 10k
Fit out for rooms - 5k
So about 60 grand , then bail money and solicitor costs and a cash reserve means you need 100 grand to set up a decent spot and be relatively safe
It's not cheap pal but the jobs the best in the world
Hand on heart i can say that If I won the lotto today I would still do the same tomorrow
If I were to set up an imaginary op I would budget the following
1 year rent upfront - 20k
equip for 50 kw room - 15 k
Electric hookup - 8k
Buss Rates 1 yr - 6k
Cover business stock - 10k
Fit out for rooms - 5k
So about 60 grand , then bail money and solicitor costs and a cash reserve means you need 100 grand to set up a decent spot and be relatively safe
It's not cheap pal but the jobs the best in the world
Hand on heart i can say that If I won the lotto today I would still do the same tomorrow
Few of us looking for good spot's. Matt's room is killer, just need big £ to start up.i recently lost a house,rented, 30 k down the swany. It's not as easy as peope think. i spent a lot of time and energy on that one,all for fuck all.Big up's to anyone who try's, but be careful peepz. Mack.
smokeandmirrors
Member
Oh yeah
Like mac said , be prepared for a failure and the associated costs if the place doesn't work out
Years ago I did a lot of work to save up for my first rental, a 6 bed detached, double garage and a massive basement. 900 quid a month, I snatched there hand off and did 6 months upfront
The place was great, moved in, lived there a few weeks then started planning the 20kw garage grow
Went to the hydro store and spent 5 or 6 grand , came home all excited good times
That night the neighbour knocked on the door, I answered, it's a little old lady and her son , turns out it's the landlords mum and brother, coming round for the monthly visit ...... What the letting agency did nt tell you they say ??
Well to cut a long story short, it was a nice place but I didn't grow a bean and lost a lot of money ... Lessons learned for later life ??? Definitely
Like mac said , be prepared for a failure and the associated costs if the place doesn't work out
Years ago I did a lot of work to save up for my first rental, a 6 bed detached, double garage and a massive basement. 900 quid a month, I snatched there hand off and did 6 months upfront
The place was great, moved in, lived there a few weeks then started planning the 20kw garage grow
Went to the hydro store and spent 5 or 6 grand , came home all excited
good timesThat night the neighbour knocked on the door, I answered, it's a little old lady and her son , turns out it's the landlords mum and brother, coming round for the monthly visit ...... What the letting agency did nt tell you they say ??
Well to cut a long story short, it was a nice place but I didn't grow a bean and lost a lot of money ... Lessons learned for later life ??? Definitely
What about getting rid of it once it's done? I used to buy a kg a week of a real nice dude but wheo he went to prison and I moved up to the next layer those guys were nasty (shotgun theat etc) and i'm sure they wernt the ones even buying from the growers. Enough to put me off serving up forever.
smokeandmirrors
Member
@ smoke an mirrors, Now that's a spot, 100k start up cost's
Haha
Yeah I know, I remember back in the day when I decided this was for me, handing my notice in at work and finally starting my journey
It was a great day, one I will look back on as a milestone in my life
Setup costs are relative, scale it up, and scale it up quick if that's what you want matey
A 4 light grow pays for a 10 light grow. A 10 pays a 30 etc .
My defining moment was only a 2 room op in a 4 bed house, 12 lights in each , checkerboard lighting so only 3.3kw draw, flip flop. Took me 6 months to pay the first commercial spot
smokeandmirrors
Member
Once you get to that bit its just straight business mate. Same old rules apply. Contacts are contacts, if you got no volume ones then this isn't for you mate. You cannot start and hope for buyers to appear, surprisingly a lot of people do this and get busted. Most buyers are normal family guys adding there drink to the kilo and passing it into another guy
This isn't the supranos lol
My main guys 60 and has 3 kids that go to school near me. I know his sister .
Never sell to gangsters or wannabes . That's short term crap that gets you busted
smokeandmirrors
Member
no intention personally just batting a few thoughts about. Reminds me of a long answer question in an RHS exam.. Thoug that was 'Production of hardy Ornamental stock' which leads me on to my next question.
Is a mains water water supply enough for a large commercial op and would you stay away from water meters? They will become law soon enough.
Is a mains water water supply enough for a large commercial op and would you stay away from water meters? They will become law soon enough.
smokeandmirrors
Member
Ahh, a very current subject mate, been thru this process
It's not a problem when switching to a meter as the utility company does not know what your previous consumption was. Just the local area
We switched a year ago and there has been no problem, apart from my bill rising from 100 to over 300 a month.
The staff must be flushing the toilet too much lol
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Luv a Grow
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i used to do as few..
In my opinion, nowadays, commercial property is a fcukin' hot way of doing it! It costs a fortune 2 set-up and there are a lot of variables..
I've had various people turn up, from VAT to salespeople to electricity readers..
Professional crooks target warehouses and commercial property and if they think your growing, your fcuked!
The police are on the lookout for these type of grows especially!
Can have probs with the cover business..
If you have the sort of money to do this, you could be better off getting a buy to let mortgage and doing a large house.. Cheap up North fella!
If you do commercial property, most important you have to have a foolproof cover business! Look for a 'friendly' landlord if i can't put u off!
Good luck fella!
In my opinion, nowadays, commercial property is a fcukin' hot way of doing it! It costs a fortune 2 set-up and there are a lot of variables..
I've had various people turn up, from VAT to salespeople to electricity readers..
Professional crooks target warehouses and commercial property and if they think your growing, your fcuked!
The police are on the lookout for these type of grows especially!
Can have probs with the cover business..
If you have the sort of money to do this, you could be better off getting a buy to let mortgage and doing a large house.. Cheap up North fella!
If you do commercial property, most important you have to have a foolproof cover business! Look for a 'friendly' landlord if i can't put u off!
Good luck fella!
