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weird, loosing leaf count 7 to 5 to 3 to 1

joe guy

Member
So I'm not sure if it did this last run can't really remember none of my pix show it (and I'm a cam whore) but at the last 5 maybe 6 inches of all 4 of my super sour dez are loosing there leaf count(not sure of the correct term) I'm pretty sure I'm not the first this has happend to. I've had it happen on reveging sum clones but not in full flower id the calender says I'm at week 7 but I'm callin bull shit I've fucked up a thousand ways from sater day this run with veg time and all so I have 4 foot tall lolly pops that are just begining to stink another of my conserns but I kno what needs to be done there just this one leaf deal is begining to bug me..(no pun intended) just wonderin if it a mute from takin so late in flower or if I'm screwing sumthing up only thing diffrent is I switched to general organics from advanced j.j.
Ifit helps I was using adv jj with hydroplex and b52 I think at the time now I'm using gen org (the whole line up) with flora nec pinnapple rush, hydro plex, just gave a dose of moab cause I don't have faith in the calander and never used it b4,and when I get a wild hair up my ass I use the b52 and sensizyme (mainly cause it cost so fuckin much and don't want to put it in my tomatoes
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Hope I didn't ramble too much and loose you but any inof would be nice
 

FoCo(No.Co)

Barned
Veteran
It sure looks like that plant is revegging, could you be having problems with timers? Other plants around it look normal?

Weird stuff dude!
 

joe guy

Member
No it all 4 and even the one in a beer cup that's outside in the backyard not in te shead. I don't think the timers messed up I go in at 6 sharp every evening and the lights and fans are on and I'm unemployed at the monment so I spend alota time in the back with the fam and allways check for odor and what not and never hear the fan during the day.. the only key is on my key ring so noone is opening the door without my go and eyes... that's y I'm so confused would a small light leak cause it? I have light traps all around the door and calked every seam in the aluminum so id imagine its not that but I've never sat in the room all day to see if it dose.... I do see a slight orange glow comming from the hinge side of the door at night but nothing to noticeable and only at one angle...
 

Galactic

Member
Nothing weird going on here Joe.

Your plants are revegging...

If you see a glow from within when the lights are on... When the lights are off, light might be spillin in.... As we move towards summer here and the days get longer, it's likely overlapping with your on/off schedule and now you have your fycked plants... Your plants may have been in flower in the first few weeks (shorter days of spring) but due to the terrible environment its caught up...
 

Andyo

Active member
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Nothing weird going on here Joe.

Your plants are revegging...

If you see a glow from within when the lights are on... When the lights are off, light might be spillin in.... As we move towards summer here and the days get longer, it's likely overlapping with your on/off schedule and now you have your fycked plants... Your plants may have been in flower in the first few weeks (shorter days of spring) but due to the terrible environment its caught up...

I 2nd that ^^^^^^^

throw them out start again after youve found the cause.A
 

joe guy

Member
I thought for reveg it had to go under 18-6 or 24-0 light if it was a light leak wouldn't they go hermi on me insted? I'm lil confused sorry for the questions?
 

joe guy

Member
Cause the buds are getting fatter in the middle of the plant on all of them just the tips are sparse and getting that one leaf deal not the whole plant.. if it was reveging wouldn't the bud production stop too?
 

Infinitesimal

my strength is a number, and my soul lies in every
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what kind of light are you using. could be low light maybe, or a combo of things. maybe funky genetics
 

joe guy

Member
Uuhhh sun system 250 with sod lux bulb its on its 2nd run but I did buy used tho the guy I got it from had a extra bulb with the kit he SAID was new but I don't know him so he could be full of it would a bulb loose that much intensity in 3 maybe 4 runs?
 

Infinitesimal

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I've always heard that most systems begin dropping off significantly after 6 months, but I've never used a light meter
 

joe guy

Member
All 4 were takin from the same plant like I said in a prior post even the one I have outside in the backyard is doing the same thing buds gettin fatter startin to get really stinky and the top 3 maybe 4 nodes starting the one leaf deal. The cupp plant is usualy in full sun allday except for shitty cloudy cover days like today but for the most part she's full sun... wish these lil girls could speak english...
 

Galactic

Member
the one that is outside in the backyard now.... was it originally part of the same group vegging together and then you separated them when?

on the reveg... can happen anytime conditions are right... usually an increase in photoperiod above normal flowering... bud production doesnt necessarily stop.. .but new bud growth will look funky/immature... kinda like the plant is growing backwards in time lol if thats understandable... reveg takes 2-3-6-8 weeks even sometimes and calyx formation + trichome coverage will increase on random ass leaves...

really should cull the girls and get the room properly set up... do understand if you wanna run them out.... if the buds are big enough for ya now... stick with your original calendar, chop them girls 9ish weeks and chalk this as a lesson forward
 

Galactic

Member
also... keep an eye out for the funny oval-ish 1 bladers.... i believe they are the official sign that you plant has crossed over into veg firmly... per soma(?)
 

joe guy

Member
Ok that makes sum sence to me on the clones I took from the last run(these ones in question) way into flower that is the look the leaf gave was the big almost perfect circle these are still super pointy that's what was throwing me off I would hate to cull them since they are more than half way done . Just went and got some black poster board to set light traps around the door and pray I guess deff not gona let this happen again... got sum more clones just beggining to root up so I belive I may just veg them up a lil more and cull the tall lollipops as a lesson learned( has to happen once for it to never happen again) and gettn the kids dressed were goin for a car ride to get dad a new light bulb if they loose the umph after 6 months mines way passed due I can't afford to loose any umph only runnin one 250
Thanks so much to all you guys put the mind at ease and I belive I have a plan of action now as b4 I was lost on what to do.....
 

joe guy

Member
Oh yeha the one out side was just a runt she didn't wana keep up with her other sisters and was gettn shaded out so I set her next to the tomatoes to see what would happen for sum reason I can't kill them they look at me with there lil cana eyes and its like killin a kitten I just can't do it.. there were org. 6 in the room and was way too crowed I couldn't have a 4 footers in the yard. So I gave them to a buddy but the outside one was set outside as soon as I switched to 12-12 so they are the same age off the same mom everything.. just dawned on I need to call him and see if his 2 girls are doing it too..
 

joe guy

Member
the outdoor beer cup

the outdoor beer cup

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Here is the outdoor cup I mentioned above she is doin the exact same thing the big girls are doing the light cycle is set for 6 am off 6 pm on completely diffrent than the big girls but same blade issue..:tumbleweed:
 

Galactic

Member
joe on the bright side...

revegged plants always yield more for me if i re-flower them again!

if youre not hurting for meds, put these girls under 24/0 to get them going proper veg
 

joe guy

Member
Aww ima bright side kinda guy the way I'm lookin at it is I have plenty of clones and a nice size momma that will give me plenty of babies(she's a octa mom) no joke the bitch has 6 to 8 arms so the strain is secure just wish it didn't have to go this route but but hey you ge lemons make lemonaid I get shit for harvest I make bho iso or sum cookies...life if about makin due with what ur givin... I fucked up so ill make damn sure it wnt happen again..got thenew light trap that won't fail on me again( I hope anyway)
And like I always say "it has to happen once to never happen again"
 

joe guy

Member
Iam frm on the fact that you can learn from others but the real lesson anyone can learn is by fuckin up yourself and having to deal with the crap that fllows... with that said thank ypu everyone for conferming that they are gigantic mommas.... esp galactic thanx brother you not only confermed but gave a lil ray of hope to keep them a few more weeks anyway...
I'm. Pretty damn sure you all will get to know me and my flowers
 

joe guy

Member
:tumbleweed:Iam frm on the fact that you can learn from others but the real lesson anyone can learn is by fuckin up yourself and having to deal with the crap that fllows... with that said thank ypu everyone for conferming that they are gigantic mommas.... esp galactic thanx brother you not only confermed but gave a lil ray of hope to keep them a few more weeks anyway...
I'm. Pretty damn sure you a will get to know me and my flowers
:thank you:
 

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