Remember seeing something like this on OG and had wanted to find something similar so when I saw this thread in the New Posts section I had to check it out. Definately how I want to keep future mother plant. Tagging this thread. Take care 1
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Pineapple, you make those two top cuts into clones. If it's been longer than 24hrs, you need to re-cut them @ a 45degree angle, in case air got in the stem, and stick them in tap water; chlorine is good to kill bacteria/fungus until they grow roots. You don't need any hormones, B1, or food until you have roots. That is in water or soil.
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Vampire
Wow mind boggling info certainly worth a try. Thanks all who posted here.
"any that grow into the central cup shaped space pinch out." This part of the read confused me a little. Do you basically pinch out the growth in the center to develop more clones? If so how many nodes should be left on the branch before being pinched out? idk if that makes since to anyone. I just don't understand how else you can cut almost all of its foliage off and then get foliage all over the branches again.
Art Vandelay
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Great thread a lot of useful stuff!!
BlueCheer
Member
Greeco, you're always leaving your basic mother plant the same size as always. You take cuttings from any shoots that have two or three nodes. I take cuttings that are between two and four inches long. You always cut or pinch right above a node on the branch then 'two new branches' will sprout out. If you continue in this manner then your mother will produce an exponential number of cuttings every two weeks.
Cheer
that answers my question. thank you sir.
highcountrygrow
Active member
I have read some of the original posts in this thread and one of the main misconceptions I want to clear up is concerning degradation of quality and stability of clones from reasonably older mothers (>5yrs).
Let us begin by defining degradation. I define degradation as a mutation that occurs to produce a non-functional gene product that disrupt yields, quality, immune response, etc. These mutations are commonly known as non-sense mutations. I will not go into the genetics behind mutations and how they lead to a nonfunctional protein. Mutations occur and most of the time are repaired by DNA repair enzymes that are constantly proofreading the genome for changes in the reading frame, dimerization of nucleotides, nucleotide exchanges, etc. that disrupt the structure and function of the polypeptide(protein) produced by the gene. These mutations are innevitable because all life and DNA is exposed to radiation and all organisms must replicate their genetic material which is also a risky process where mistakes are commonly made.
The point I am trying to make with this molecular biology spiel is that as an organism lives and is exposed to radiation or by means of cell replication is going to accumulate mutations in its genome therefore mothers can change based on the fact that they are not an exception to radiation and the accumulation of mutation within the genome.
Let us begin by defining degradation. I define degradation as a mutation that occurs to produce a non-functional gene product that disrupt yields, quality, immune response, etc. These mutations are commonly known as non-sense mutations. I will not go into the genetics behind mutations and how they lead to a nonfunctional protein. Mutations occur and most of the time are repaired by DNA repair enzymes that are constantly proofreading the genome for changes in the reading frame, dimerization of nucleotides, nucleotide exchanges, etc. that disrupt the structure and function of the polypeptide(protein) produced by the gene. These mutations are innevitable because all life and DNA is exposed to radiation and all organisms must replicate their genetic material which is also a risky process where mistakes are commonly made.
The point I am trying to make with this molecular biology spiel is that as an organism lives and is exposed to radiation or by means of cell replication is going to accumulate mutations in its genome therefore mothers can change based on the fact that they are not an exception to radiation and the accumulation of mutation within the genome.
First of all BIG TNX 4 this instructions !
I have read this all and it helps me a lot in the last half year.
I am very new in to this but i tray to get as much experiences as possible in a short time!
So i started really quickly with some closings and Mom experiments.
Everything went really well!
All this success was build on this information i get hear in die report! TNX
But i have still Problems to get a Mom out of a sativa dominant strain! What ist the trick to become a savtiva mom ???
If i top or tray to fim them they just keep growing normally and don´t bring out two new breaches....
Sorry 4 my broken english but i needed to ask this question.
peace
I have read this all and it helps me a lot in the last half year.
I am very new in to this but i tray to get as much experiences as possible in a short time!
So i started really quickly with some closings and Mom experiments.
Everything went really well!
All this success was build on this information i get hear in die report! TNX
But i have still Problems to get a Mom out of a sativa dominant strain! What ist the trick to become a savtiva mom ???
If i top or tray to fim them they just keep growing normally and don´t bring out two new breaches....
Sorry 4 my broken english but i needed to ask this question.
peace
1Maconheiro
Member
This thread couldn't have come at a better time, I am in the process of down sizing my grow area soom into micro grow type style in a cabinet, I want to preserve some of my mother plants by making them into Bonsai Moms. I like smoking Sativa dominant strains, SLH, Satoria, DP etc.. is it possible to make those into Bonsai moms? Has anyone successfully Bonsaied these strains? if so, pls share your technique? what is the average height of your Bonsai Mom from bottom of pot to very top of plant? just want to get an idea of how tall my mother room should be in my cabinet.
Aspiring bonsai
Aspiring bonsai
Here is my aspiring bonsai mommy specimen from a Nirvana Chrystal fem seed. She is almost 4 months old, as shown. No training, but I had topped her (maybe a few times) when she was younger.
After a while of regular feeding, I had been giving her straight RO water out of laziness, and so she really responded when I gave it some rhizotonic and cannazym a few weeks before the above pic. I will keep a better schedule going forward (as per the details in the thread). Still, I wanted to whack up the root ball, like I'd seen in this thread years ago
She was re-planted in the same smart pot, using a new batch of my basic peat/perlie/ewc mix (with small amounts of azomite and dolo lime). I then took 3 cuttings (making a total of 6 in the past week) and proceeded to feed her some RO water dosed with rhizotonic and cannazym (although it is dry in the pics).
I felt like I should trim some more of the growth off, but after taking the cuttings, there isn't much else left except the smaller/lower shoots. Will just watch her for now, and debate it in my head in the meantime.
Well, here is to a good genetics, IC Mag!
Aspiring bonsai
Here is my aspiring bonsai mommy specimen from a Nirvana Chrystal fem seed. She is almost 4 months old, as shown. No training, but I had topped her (maybe a few times) when she was younger.
After a while of regular feeding, I had been giving her straight RO water out of laziness, and so she really responded when I gave it some rhizotonic and cannazym a few weeks before the above pic. I will keep a better schedule going forward (as per the details in the thread). Still, I wanted to whack up the root ball, like I'd seen in this thread years ago
She was re-planted in the same smart pot, using a new batch of my basic peat/perlie/ewc mix (with small amounts of azomite and dolo lime). I then took 3 cuttings (making a total of 6 in the past week) and proceeded to feed her some RO water dosed with rhizotonic and cannazym (although it is dry in the pics).
I felt like I should trim some more of the growth off, but after taking the cuttings, there isn't much else left except the smaller/lower shoots. Will just watch her for now, and debate it in my head in the meantime.
Well, here is to a good genetics, IC Mag!
crazy_eagle
Active member
Great thread with great info..thx
Once your mum is a few months old... you should begin to form a ring. No growth on the inside and a ring of branches popping new growth.
The ring is the key as the leaves of the new growth will have room to bust out into the middle of and outside of the whole ring... just before trimming again.
Always remember to trim on time... even if you don't need the clones. Should the trimming be too often, reduce the amount of light and nutes until the growth matches your personal cycle.
Stay Safe!
The ring is the key as the leaves of the new growth will have room to bust out into the middle of and outside of the whole ring... just before trimming again.
Always remember to trim on time... even if you don't need the clones. Should the trimming be too often, reduce the amount of light and nutes until the growth matches your personal cycle.
Stay Safe!
MedicalGrower
Member
HYDRO
Thanks for the info, A++!
Be Well/Grow Well
mg
Thanks for the info, A++!
Be Well/Grow Well
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