Yum Yum Organic "Fertilizer" ????

[MileHighGuy]

Has anyone ever used this to make a soil mix.

I'm on the verge of departing from bagged soil.

I'm going to combine old coco coir and coco chunks with a local soil companies garden mix and then was thinking about adding this yum yum organic mix.

http://www.yumyummix.com/products/fertilizers/yym.php

I'm excited because it's cost effective and I can get a truck load of dirt for the cost of 5 bags of soil.

This 40lb bag that I bought of yumyum was $50

I believe it will last awhile, but we will see.

Anyone have experience with this product?

Watcha think?

Peace

 

[BurnOne]

Cottonseed meal is loaded with pesticides. Except for that it looks good. Add dolomite, perlite and worm castings.
Burn1

 

[dank.frank]

cottonseed meal is great for use in mediums where you want to keep the N levels provided for at low to moderate rates for an extended period of time...it also helps keep and maintain a lower pH level

This looks like a good mix for something like blueberries .... not sure about cannabis though. Might wanna check pH first...otherwise if that is fine, then probably not THAT much cottonseed meal and you can work with it from there...treating it much like any other commercially bagged fertilized soil / medium...

It is the first commercial mix I see though that is using Dry Molasses. I have been promoting the use of it in soil mixes for the last few years...I really like that aspect of it.

*edit*

I see what this is now...it isn't a premixed soil...it is a fertilizer blended product. My oh my it is catching on like wildfire...

Depending on how much of each ingredient they have in the blend would change how much you use of it. But provided you make a good base medium, I would imagine 1.5-2cup of this stuff per cubic ft would probably put you well on your way...



dank.Frank

 

[MileHighGuy]

I'm gonna do a side my side to my subcool super soil recipe.

I've been looking to locally source dirt and then slowly work towards local ingredients.

I've got some chickens that I'm feeding organic, so I'm composting and adding their shit but It will be awhile haha. I'll have some pigs and their manure soon.

 

[Bennyweed1]

Im digging the fact they use dry molasses in it. I use dry molasses like a junky uses crack. I love that shit and it smells like candy in in raw form.

I also use all the other amendments it has listed. It has my vote.

I would add the quad runner pH buffering buffet to call it a done deal. (Lime, oyster shell, crab shell and gypsum)

 

[Connoisseur300]

I fuckin love Yum Yum mix! I used to live in the town that produced this stuff and ended up with some free bags. I've also had the opportunity to use it and see it used on multiple flowers and veggies and I'll be the first to tell u the shit is fuckin bad ass and thanks for reminding to get some because it's getting added to my organic mix ASAP . Thanks again

 

[MileHighGuy]

Sweet! Thanks for all the feedback.

I'll drop a line here someday and report on how I like it.

I can get 40lb bag for $35 locally and that's pretty good. I've been adding it as top dressing and also using it for some of my new soil mixes. I like it so far, but it hasn't been long enough to tell.

 

[sourpickle]

Bump

 

[jerry111165]

On the bag in the ingredients it lists the Elements the rock dust contains. The reality is that it takes years and years to benefit from the elements contained in the rock dust. Rock dusts are not added to a soil mix to benefit from the elements the dust contains but rather to provide anchors for soil bacteria to latch onto, with the real benefit being the enzymes created - not the elements the rock dust contain.

It's almost 3am and I'm bored.

J

 

[SeaMaiden]

Maybe I need to do some additional reading, but as I'm understanding what I've been reading, bacteria do much as lichens do and enzymatically consume (immobilize, yes?) the rock dusts and minerals they contain. Then, when they evacuate (poop) they're mineralizing the soil with what are now plant-available elements. That's assuming we're not talking about compounds such as carbonates that have different effects and reactions in the soil.

I've also read various time frames for rock dust breakdown or bio-availability, some are fairly short periods of time at a year or less, and others are around 2 years to become available (SRP?).

Certainly there are other places that provide homes for these bacteria, no? I mean, they can't be that different from other benthics I'm familiar with outside of environmental requirements, can they?

Am I completely misunderstanding what I'm reading, or is what I'm reading wrong?

 

[jerry111165]

Well, as it was 3am I'm thinking I wasn't too specific either. I'm really just learning (as much as I can cram into my brain) myself.

I think that we get greater elemental value from rock dust in a no till or raised be setting. Many indoor gardeners unfortunately don't re use soil, so I bet they would get almost no element value from rock dusts. It simply takes longer than a pot plants life in a pot *Lol* to break down to get its mineral value.

I believe that all would gain great value from the many enzymes produced by the bacteria though. I'm thinking that the enzyme process is way quicker than stone breaking down.

That's all I was saying. Sorry if I wasn't clearer.

J

 

[Granger2]

I haven't used dry molasses and this is why. I'm sure not all of it, but much of it is molasses sprayed on ground corn cobs. Corn has fungicidal properties. Enough so that Texas A&M recommends that cornmeal be applied as the fungicide of choice on lawns for assorted fungal problems including Brown Patch and Take All Patch. I don't want to mess with my microherd. If I could find some dry molasses that had been sprayed on a different carrier, I would use it. Apparetly all or many parts of the corn plant are fungicidal. Good luck. -granger

 

[SeaMaiden]

USDavis mentions using corn gluten or corn meal as a pre-emergent weed killer. I've read of its antifungal properties. I had no idea dry molasses went through a corn process. I thought that it had simply been boiled down to a crystallized state and packaged. Thanks for that information, Granger, I hadn't a clue.

Jerry, I guess what I'm trying to say is that as I understand it, the enzymes *are* what's breaking down the stone. It's one of the actions lichens has on granite, this much I believe I can state with some certainty, but not unequivocally (without double-checking my facts first, of course). So... I guess what I'm saying is that with those enzymes, I believe the plants are getting the minerals that have been broken down.

Honestly though, at this very moment *I* am still trying to wake up. We got our granddaughter for a surprise visit and she is up at the cracka dawn. Not that I'm not up that early, but I don't usually have a 4yo jabbering away.

 

[Granger2]

> I thought that it had simply been boiled down to a crystallized state
> and packaged

Maiden,
Some of it may be, and I would use that form of dry MO. Let me know if you know of a source. Thanks. -granger

 

[SeaMaiden]

We were looking at what bulkfoods dot com has. It's so cheap I can't imagine there's anything special or different about it. The boiling method was what I was told when I was small and my grandfather was running the sugar plantation on the island. Their facilities were built mostly after the Spanish-American war, and all now lie fallow and unused. Anyway, not much corn grown on the island as far as I know.

 

[MileHighGuy]

Holy Crap what happened in here? haha my head hurts and I love it...

I also use many other sources for micro-nutrients..... so I'm not to worried about it.

I re-use all of my soil and it gets better every time!

You guys are too smart and stuff.

 

[FunkBomb]

There are so many different amendments to use. I just use Espoma Garden Tone and Flower Tone. It's got all the good stuff from organic sources as well as their custom blend of beneficial bacteria.

 

[MileHighGuy]

when you coming off the bottles it's hard to only use a few amendments haha

 

[ColorGRo]

when you coming off the bottles it's hard to only use a few amendments haha

How did this YYM turn out in your soil MHG?

 

[MileHighGuy]

Really nice! I can't complain.

Not going to use it again.

I now prefer to source each ingredient for the highest quality....individually. But once I got over the initial heat of this yum yum and all the other additives I had, things worked wonderfully.

I think no matter what you use, if your humus source is solid and the soil has enough time to become alive with activity. You're going to have a good grow.

I'll still probably use the yum yum mix in my veggie garden, because I still have some left. And I'll also be using some on my lawn this year once the snow melts.