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Trayvon Martin - THC

This news report is certain to cause a sh*tload of hassle.

All the pundits and professional scolds will have a field day.

(CNN) -- Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system when he was fatally shot earlier this year by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Florida, according to autopsy results released Thursday.
Martin's blood contained THC, which is the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, according to an autopsy conducted February 27 -- the day after the teenager was shot dead.
Toxicology tests found elements of the drug in the teenager's chest blood -- 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of one type (THC), as well as 7.3 nanograms of another type (THC-COOH) -- according to the medical examiner's report. There was also a presumed positive test of cannabinoids in Martin's urine. It was not immediately clear how significant these amounts were.

George Zimmerman claimed he was assaulted by Trayvon Martin before fatally shooting the teen earlier this year, police said.
Medical report lists Zimmerman injuries Report details Zimmerman's injuries New medical report may help Zimmerman
Concentrations of THC routinely rise to 100 to 200 ng/ml after marijuana use, though it typically falls to below 5 ng/ml within three hours of it being smoked, according to information on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website.
While some states have zero-tolerance policies for any drug traces for driving while impaired, others set certain benchmarks, the website of California's Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs notes. In Nevada, that equates to 2 ng/ml for THC and 5 ng/ml for THC-COOH -- also known as marijuana metabolite. The cutoff level in Ohio is 2 ng/ml for THC and 50 ng/ml for THC-COOH.
 

pearlemae

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It's common knowledge among the journalistic set that trace amounts of THC makes you drug crazed, insane.. he must have been insane.. on drugs to attack a guy with a gun.... right?
WTF.. does THC have to do with the kid getting shot. From the amounts he had, he hadn't smoked for awhile and THC shouldn't even matter, but the media will make a big deal about it watch. Bunch of B.S.
 

supermanlives

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thats why he went to the store .munchies and cottonmouth. mr z prob approached him and the kid told him to fuck off.who knows what happened after that. mr z did have injuries tho. kid prob told z he better put gun away or he was gonna shove it up his ass. cause thats what i would of said.
 

Yes4Prop215

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he was also selling pot at school....his facebook page had messages from other folks asking when he would have more trees in lol...

doesnt factor in the case IMO, but the media and squarebears will view it that way..

the only thing that matters is if he attacked zimmerman or not...and the evidence shows zimerman took a beating, which justifies use of deadly force..if trayvon was able to beat zimmerman and take his gun it seems justified to shoot to kill.
 

Storm Shadow

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When some loser deicdes he's John Wayne and can take the law into his own hands...that stand your ground is pointless.... lets see... Police Dispatcher tells Trigger Happy Zimmeran to stay in his car and he say refuses ...decided to take the law into his own hands..motherfucker aint standing his own ground...he went and invaded someone elses space and murdered him... that loser is destined to be killed ... what stoner on his way to the store to get munchies starts shit with anyone? Fucker Zimmerman should have stayed in his car.... end of story..
 

Infinitesimal

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SARCASM

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Oh shit! he had weed in his system? he sold weed? then the actions of the security guard are totally justifiable. He was a detriment to society and contributed to the delinquency of minors, I have no sympathy for him then and he deserved to get killed.....???
 
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guest59452

of course tray tray had thc in his system no matter, thc belongs in our systems, he went to gas station to buy skittles n arizona watermelon drink, im not on the jury but if i was id say zimmerman guilty
 
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GetUpStandUp

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This news report is certain to cause a sh*tload of hassle.

All the pundits and professional scolds will have a field day.

(CNN) -- Trayvon Martin had drugs in his system when he was fatally shot earlier this year by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Florida, according to autopsy results released Thursday.
Martin's blood contained THC, which is the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, according to an autopsy conducted February 27 -- the day after the teenager was shot dead.
Toxicology tests found elements of the drug in the teenager's chest blood -- 1.5 nanograms per milliliter of one type (THC), as well as 7.3 nanograms of another type (THC-COOH) -- according to the medical examiner's report. There was also a presumed positive test of cannabinoids in Martin's urine. It was not immediately clear how significant these amounts were.

George Zimmerman claimed he was assaulted by Trayvon Martin before fatally shooting the teen earlier this year, police said.
Medical report lists Zimmerman injuries Report details Zimmerman's injuries New medical report may help Zimmerman
Concentrations of THC routinely rise to 100 to 200 ng/ml after marijuana use, though it typically falls to below 5 ng/ml within three hours of it being smoked, according to information on the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's website.
While some states have zero-tolerance policies for any drug traces for driving while impaired, others set certain benchmarks, the website of California's Department of Alcohol and Drug Programs notes. In Nevada, that equates to 2 ng/ml for THC and 5 ng/ml for THC-COOH -- also known as marijuana metabolite. The cutoff level in Ohio is 2 ng/ml for THC and 50 ng/ml for THC-COOH.
Most here, and in the rest of the world will chime in on this case, but we all should step back from the drama, fire, and explosions and see the bull in accepting this case. We in 2012 still see corrupt media spins of some case that not only has so many holes in it it will never see a true hearing as all aspects of the case has been crazy mishandled in the name of creating a race issue.

We lived thru the emancipation proclamation, the 60s civil right movements, and we are the most diverse country on the planet, we need no bull crap in our lives like this, why would a media outlet report such a case, when many many f-ing kids go missing and never come home, report on worthwhile news, all this case does is creat division, when its a no brainer case that happen many many times in our society, even other cases that have more direct racial influence in them, but we get beat in the head over this one case thats bull.

The fact that T. Martin had THC in his system is bull, because we all know it can stay in your system for months if not years depending on how much smoked, so to ellude to THC having any baring to this case in media not in court, it is bull! We the people should look futher in not just this case, but the many the media is currently reporting on with race, and firearms. Notice what bills the president is passing to unarm us, and look at these false flag cases like this, it really sucks now MJ will yet again defend itself again for no reason, as many frickin drunk drivers kill thousands across the U.S and they dont have to defend shite, just get out in a week, and do the same shite again!

Sorry, this case is crap, my opinon, and we should not lose track of truth, dealing with these cases do what for us, and our economy, and our failing country across the board, its just insain! God help us all!
 

MadBuddhaAbuser

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The fact this case turned into some race baiting bullshit is fucked up.

The fact some dude thinks he can harrass kids walking down the street is fucked. If some big douche with a fake kinkos printout bage started harrassing me cuz I didnt fit his idea of who should be walking down the street in america I probably would have got into a fight with him too. Should that give him the right to shoot me? I dont think so, I dont see how provoking a fight gives you the right to shoot at people, maybe I'm from a different country or brain sphere than those who see it that way.

You cant just randomly decide to chase people down and confront them for being in public and looking a way that oes not conform to your idea of how people should look. I think that's overstepping the bounds of a trained law officer, nevermind some dickhead with too much free time who wants to join a neighborhood watch (aka snitch brigade aka vigilante).
 
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MrSterling

All this would be completely avoidable if Zimmerman had stayed in his car and minded his own business, which he didn't. And as someone pointed out, yeah Trayvon hit him apparently, but where's his right to "stand his ground" when some big guy with a gun comes after you when you're walking home. Kid was probably freaked the fuck out.
 

medmaker420

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I don't think he HAD TO listen to any cop however who has a neighborhood watch with a fuckin weapon?

I understand, stand your ground but that can't mean once I go follow, locate and confront I can then claim that right? Someone took his rent a cop badge to a whole different level, even if once the fight was on he was getting his ass kicked. At what point do you pull out a gun? When you are getting your ass beat by a 17 year old...

Even if you are for gun rights, I don't see how you can agree with this kill.
I don't like the race b.s. that is put into this case BUT its there because hell what else made this guy get out of his ride and follow this guy? How can you say a guy looks up to no good just cuz he is walking with a hoodie.

I don't care who smoked weed during a fight, it never ends up helping you out especially when all you were wanting was some munchies and have some asshole was fuckin stalking your paranoid ass on your walk home enough to where you feel you need to confront and ask WTF are you following me for!

I agree with all Americans rights to bear arms but when you shoot it, there will be consequences whether you felt justified or not. Sometimes you just get your ass kicked and live another day and other times you start winning and take one to the chest after an asshole was stalking and following YOU. Who was up to no good that day?

Its just like the assholes who mess with our med laws running shady collectives or smuggling this or that. Sure it goes on all over the place illegally but when it happens in the legal scene it starts fucking with our laws more and end up closing up shops all over our med states. The same shit will happen with guns as more idiots do stupid shit like killing kids for walking home.

I don't care how out of place someone looks in my neighborhood UNLESS they try and come into my home..... then its GOOD LUCK.... at that point it makes sense but if I saw an out of place person on my block, grabbed my glock and started following him at what point should it be HIS FAULT that I am bringing my gun to confront him about being on my block?

Crazy world we live in and all they keep up on is this kid having weed in his system as if that matters at all. This guy is walking around after killing a kid!

I don't want these sort of stories to remove more gun rights and produce stiffer gun restrictions because thats about all that ends up coming from huge public news pieces like this.
 

Infinitesimal

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treyvon should have been packing too, maybe thats what we should be advocating. that douche might have thought twice about pulling his heater out if there was a chance that the kid had one to
 
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kush kings

treyvon should have been packing too, maybe thats what we should be advocating. that douche might have thought twice about pulling his heater out if there was a chance that the kid had one to
What would that prove...like the saying goes..."Guns don't kill people its' stupid ass people with guns that kill people. Nothing is cool about robbing someone of their life. Life is a precious gift that NO ONE has the right to take. KK!
 

Infinitesimal

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What would that prove...like the saying goes..."Guns don't kill people its' stupid ass people with guns that kill people. Nothing is cool about robbing someone of their life. Life is a precious gift that NO ONE has the right to take. KK!

treyvon should have been packing too, maybe thats what we should be advocating. that douche might have thought twice about pulling his heater out if there was a chance that the kid had one to
hes a coward, and if there was a chance the kid was packing a gun we probably wouldn't have pulled his gun out. there was one life already taken, but he didn't even have the ability to defend himself self. so is that your ideology... only the government should have firearms?:biggrin:
 
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kush kings

hes a coward, and if there was a chance the kid was packing a gun we probably wouldn't have pulled his gun out. there was one life already taken, but he didn't even have the ability to defend himself self. so is that your ideology... only the government should have firearms?:biggrin:
To be honest I was commenting on the fact you feel that if violence was met with violence it would have been cool. In reality if Trayvon would've had a gun of his own zimmerman could've legitimately claimed self defense.
 

Infinitesimal

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To be honest I was commenting on the fact you feel that if violence was met with violence it would have been cool. In reality if Trayvon would've had a gun of his own zimmerman could've legitimately claimed self defense.

thanks for asserting my feelings for me, and now that we have that clear. i wasn't suggesting they should have a gun fight, rather that if it were the status quo to carry firearms, pussies like this guy wouldn't be so quick to pull their guns and risk getting shot themselves.

I on the other hand understand your point which i emboldened... and your right! It could and likely would try to be misconstrued as self defense because if some young black "thug" wearing a hoodie is carrying a gun therefore he must be a threat & therefore can be killed in self defense.

but a good attorney could prove that the guy stalked the kid a shot him it wasn't a case of, quick draw... old west... john wayne.. bang bang... pow pow... your dead i plead self defense, there is a thing called evidence. he was running from Zimmerman, wasn't he, Ive never heard of shooting some one in the back labeled self defense

If he had been carrying a gun and no shots were fired from said gun, would it have made the killing any more justifiable in your mind? or in reality? or in any measure of common sense?

peace,
Infi
 

Cheerful

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Did Zimmerman have a drug screen at any point? Why are they focusing on the victim?

Dunno if it's just me, but so far I don't see anybody trying to make something out of the THC ('cept Z's attorney). I'm gonna keep an eye on this, but I kinda think a lot of folks have become a little less sensitive about cannabis...most people know that Reefer Madness was a lie.
 
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MrSterling

To be honest I was commenting on the fact you feel that if violence was met with violence it would have been cool. In reality if Trayvon would've had a gun of his own zimmerman could've legitimately claimed self defense.

Here's my problem with his use of the "stand your ground" rule as a defense. Whether or not Trayvon had a weapon, Zimmerman initiated the altercation by following and then confronting the kid. To me if you've purposefully gone out of your way to interact with someone like that, you're at least partially culpable if you find yourself in trouble.

I see how people feel race is being dragged into this, but the fact is Zimmerman had made something like 40 complaints in the past year to the police station about "suspicious" individuals around his gated community neighborhood, and they were all about black guys. It's hard not to feel like the guy has a chip on his shoulder, or at least some subconscious wariness of blacks. We as individuals are often the creation of our upbringing and society, and if the guy has a problem with people because of the color of their skin I can only hope he'll realize the error of his thinking.
 
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kush kings

Here's my problem with his use of the "stand your ground" rule as a defense. Whether or not Trayvon had a weapon, Zimmerman initiated the altercation by following and then confronting the kid. To me if you've purposefully gone out of your way to interact with someone like that, you're at least partially culpable if you find yourself in trouble.

I see how people feel race is being dragged into this, but the fact is Zimmerman had made something like 40 complaints in the past year to the police station about "suspicious" individuals around his gated community neighborhood, and they were all about black guys. It's hard not to feel like the guy has a chip on his shoulder, or at least some subconscious wariness of blacks. We as individuals are often the creation of our upbringing and society, and if the guy has a problem with people because of the color of their skin I can only hope he'll realize the error of his thinking.
exactly zimmerman was the instigator even after the 911 dispatcher told him not to pursue the boy he did anyway....wouldn't this alone be enough to charge him with murder if he would've listened to the dispatcher known of this would have ocurred.
 
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