Anybody running cool tubes in a vert setup and hitting 1gpw or more?
Is anyone running cool tubes for that matter?
Just curious.
TR
Is anyone running cool tubes for that matter?
Just curious.
TR
Anybody running cool tubes ?
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TommyTwoColas
Member
Yes and yes.
There's a time and a place for everything, and my cooltube is a lifesaver.
For 9 months of the year, can keep my 10x14x8 room cool running a 170CFM fan pulling through a filter, whereas bare bulbed I'd have to run a 2000CFM fan (at least) to cool it..............I like saving electricity
It holds four 600s (but I'm experimenting this run and only running three at any time for a light mover type effect).
There's a time and a place for everything, and my cooltube is a lifesaver.
For 9 months of the year, can keep my 10x14x8 room cool running a 170CFM fan pulling through a filter, whereas bare bulbed I'd have to run a 2000CFM fan (at least) to cool it..............I like saving electricity
It holds four 600s (but I'm experimenting this run and only running three at any time for a light mover type effect).
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I'd advise you to sit your ass down somewhere on a couch and have a big cup of the shut the hell up.
Go stand in the corner with your 17 posts.
A little? Clearly I've read a few posts. Most EVERYONE doesn't use cool tubes.
So I had a question for those that did.
If you don't have much positive to add to the topic of discussion don't come around fuckin with me.
PERIOD
TR
Go stand in the corner with your 17 posts.
A little? Clearly I've read a few posts. Most EVERYONE doesn't use cool tubes.
So I had a question for those that did.
If you don't have much positive to add to the topic of discussion don't come around fuckin with me.
PERIOD
TR
hey trop i have run them both in my stadium and with vert scrogg and found i can run cooler without them. they seem to hold heat. know it sounds crazy but bare bulbs with a fan under neith them and major extraction work alot better. my plants are just as close to the bulb as they were in the tubes and no burn or bleaching. hope this helps.
Indeed it does help! I was just curious ... wondering the best way to play it for a smaller, small area.
Thanks JW!
Thanks JW!
No but I will be. 1200w in a 6x4 cab is uncool able even with a 12" outtake fan
D
DHF
Hey TR......Tommy Two Colas uses cooltubes outta necessity where he`s at in his own particular situation and I applaud the dialing of his environment for the gpw`s...but.....as a rule....
NOBODY down here in vert-ville runs anything but bare bulbs cuz as JW just testified , I stayed on his old ass till he got rid of em and dialed his shit cooler without em instead of with em.....so....
Gotta say somethin for the way I`ve grown/grew for almost 20 yrs inside dialing environment first WITH bare bulbs instead of after the fact.....and hey....for the record....
We stay away from confrontation as much as possible down here , so goin off on someone attempting to help even though it could`ve come off as sarcastic ain`t cool ok?.....
We get enough drama from the horizontal flat growers and naysayers callin us crazy for not usin air-cooled horizontal reflectors , and or their claims that we inflate our yields and returns....so....
Good luck and Holler if I can help......Just check the attitude at the door , or you`ll not get much help down here in the "Twisted Kid`s Forum".....
Peace....DHF....
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NOBODY down here in vert-ville runs anything but bare bulbs cuz as JW just testified , I stayed on his old ass till he got rid of em and dialed his shit cooler without em instead of with em.....so....
Gotta say somethin for the way I`ve grown/grew for almost 20 yrs inside dialing environment first WITH bare bulbs instead of after the fact.....and hey....for the record....
We stay away from confrontation as much as possible down here , so goin off on someone attempting to help even though it could`ve come off as sarcastic ain`t cool ok?.....
We get enough drama from the horizontal flat growers and naysayers callin us crazy for not usin air-cooled horizontal reflectors , and or their claims that we inflate our yields and returns....so....
Good luck and Holler if I can help......Just check the attitude at the door , or you`ll not get much help down here in the "Twisted Kid`s Forum".....
Peace....DHF....
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I did run cooltubes when i did vert...
Got over 1 GPW a few times....
The times i did run bare bulbs, i STILL have 4 burn spots on my body, and thats from YEARS ago...
Got over 1 GPW a few times....
The times i did run bare bulbs, i STILL have 4 burn spots on my body, and thats from YEARS ago...
I have run them and found that I only like them with 600's and even then not so much. I kind of wish they were a bit longer so I could put 1000's in them. If the power was unlimited and funds not an issue, I could see them working well. I'd stack a whole bunch of them. I'd have to agree with Josey about the bare bulb situation working better. I'm actually about to swap all of them out for some 750's and raptors. 2 over a 3x6 area or just straight 1000's over a 4x8.
I could see them being nice in tight spaces, since they don't take up much space. They're also really light. Bare bulb has always yielded better for me.
I really wanted to like them, but I just wasn't sold with the results. Maybe putting the 750's into them would have given me what I wanted. I just really love 1000's.
I could see them being nice in tight spaces, since they don't take up much space. They're also really light. Bare bulb has always yielded better for me.
I really wanted to like them, but I just wasn't sold with the results. Maybe putting the 750's into them would have given me what I wanted. I just really love 1000's.
Hey there buddy,
No need to get defensive there, we chill here right?
Posts don't stand for nothing.. if anything you talk more than you listen..
If you don't wanna clutter up the forum then just ask your question right away. Your post only had two questions, I answered both of them
Everything you need to know about cool tubes and bare bulbs is in the Why did you guys go to bare vertical lighting? thread. But of course, you already read that one didn't ya?
Btw kinda ironic with the possitive attitude eh? Your caps lock broken? Haha enough ok.. peace
TommyTwoColas
Member
The, I think he was looking for answers like Krunch and me who have had reasonable success with cooltubes, not guys like you giving him grief for asking a question.
No need to give him a hard time.
Anyhow OP, I just can't see myself using a couple/few hundred more watts/hour than I already do for a smidgeon (according to my light meter) more light.
Also love the ability to dial my environment down to the nth degree without constantly having to run a humidifier (which is a symptom of bare bulbs, and is in my mind one of the reasons DHF preaches bare bulb so much - if you're in hell with 90% humidity, your lights removing that humidity is doing double duty).
Long story short, everybody's gotta do what works for them............if I'm in the deep south with 90% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with bare bulbs..........if I'm in Colorado with 10% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with a cooltube...........if I'm in _______ with reasonable humidity, I'm running intake/exhaust (just switched from a sealed room) with a cooltube
No need to give him a hard time.
Anyhow OP, I just can't see myself using a couple/few hundred more watts/hour than I already do for a smidgeon (according to my light meter) more light.
Also love the ability to dial my environment down to the nth degree without constantly having to run a humidifier (which is a symptom of bare bulbs, and is in my mind one of the reasons DHF preaches bare bulb so much - if you're in hell with 90% humidity, your lights removing that humidity is doing double duty).
Long story short, everybody's gotta do what works for them............if I'm in the deep south with 90% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with bare bulbs..........if I'm in Colorado with 10% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with a cooltube...........if I'm in _______ with reasonable humidity, I'm running intake/exhaust (just switched from a sealed room) with a cooltube
junior_grower
Active member
I do and I do hit over 1 gpw.
I run two of them stacked with 1000's in them.
I have no choice but to run them. If i could avoid them I would. Cleaning is a constant nightmare. But buy running a sealed light system I manage to save 5000 BTU worth of Cooling and that's 1000$ a year.
I grow to the penny and Gram I calculate yields based on cost per gram produced. And running cool tubes reduces that cost by .10cents a gram
I run two of them stacked with 1000's in them.
I have no choice but to run them. If i could avoid them I would. Cleaning is a constant nightmare. But buy running a sealed light system I manage to save 5000 BTU worth of Cooling and that's 1000$ a year.
I grow to the penny and Gram I calculate yields based on cost per gram produced. And running cool tubes reduces that cost by .10cents a gram
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The, I think he was looking for answers like Krunch and me who have had reasonable success with cooltubes, not guys like you giving him grief for asking a question.
No need to give him a hard time.
Anyhow OP, I just can't see myself using a couple/few hundred more watts/hour than I already do for a smidgeon (according to my light meter) more light.
Also love the ability to dial my environment down to the nth degree without constantly having to run a humidifier (which is a symptom of bare bulbs, and is in my mind one of the reasons DHF preaches bare bulb so much - if you're in hell with 90% humidity, your lights removing that humidity is doing double duty).
Long story short, everybody's gotta do what works for them............if I'm in the deep south with 90% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with bare bulbs..........if I'm in Colorado with 10% humidity, I'm running a sealed room with a cooltube...........if I'm in _______ with reasonable humidity, I'm running intake/exhaust (just switched from a sealed room) with a cooltube
im in hell with a average of 10 to 15% humidity, with cooltubes i had to run a ac a dehumidifyer and 2 8in inlines on carbon filters, 680 $ elect bill, now bare bulb, 1 swamp cooler, 4 8in exaust fans on filters, 3 fans under lights, 49% humidity and 560 $ elect bill, temps went form 80 to 85 with cool tubes to 71 to 78 without, go figure.
In a small confined area Let us say a 4 x 4 space would the same rules apply? I'm thinking with a single 600w bulb the fan to vent the heat from application would have to be big and fast = loud.
I had a vert cab in mind. Aero.
Krunch, aside from the burns what did you feel was a better way to run?
TTC - thanks for making the point about the humidity, As well as understanding my pov.
JW - how the hell did the temp drop, I thought the whole point of cooltube was to keep things cool lol.
AR - Thanks for the input. Those are the type of answers I was in need of.
DHF - Now you know, or you will know now I appreciate always any help you decide to offer. I know you know a thing or two or three. I don't like subliminal attacks or jests I'm a straight forward guy. Check out my join date, then re-read what was said to earn such a response from me. Heath.... How wouldn't I .....
I started NOT to make this thread..... But as my time is limited like everyone else's time, I couldnt find my answer when I searched... even if i perhaps overlooked a thread on the specific topic. Again I've been a member here for a long time, I don't make a whole bunch of threads nor posts if not warranted.
I will try my best to respect forum members in the same common courtesy that is shown towards me. One begets another.
I took your advice but instead of asking bobblehead ... I just started reading over some of his threads.
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I'm not going to further respond to antagonists. Or shill accounts.
If anyone doesn't appreciate how I respond to what I felt was an unjust hey newbie use the search button snide remark, Then pretty please do not offer any assistance.
Thanks for the feedback guys it's is appreciated.
TR
I had a vert cab in mind. Aero.
Krunch, aside from the burns what did you feel was a better way to run?
TTC - thanks for making the point about the humidity, As well as understanding my pov.
JW - how the hell did the temp drop, I thought the whole point of cooltube was to keep things cool lol.
AR - Thanks for the input. Those are the type of answers I was in need of.
DHF - Now you know, or you will know now I appreciate always any help you decide to offer. I know you know a thing or two or three. I don't like subliminal attacks or jests I'm a straight forward guy. Check out my join date, then re-read what was said to earn such a response from me. Heath.... How wouldn't I .....
I started NOT to make this thread..... But as my time is limited like everyone else's time, I couldnt find my answer when I searched... even if i perhaps overlooked a thread on the specific topic. Again I've been a member here for a long time, I don't make a whole bunch of threads nor posts if not warranted.
I will try my best to respect forum members in the same common courtesy that is shown towards me. One begets another.
I took your advice but instead of asking bobblehead ... I just started reading over some of his threads.
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I'm not going to further respond to antagonists. Or shill accounts.
If anyone doesn't appreciate how I respond to what I felt was an unjust hey newbie use the search button snide remark, Then pretty please do not offer any assistance.
Thanks for the feedback guys it's is appreciated.
TR
TommyTwoColas
Member
TR, JW said that he doubled his exhaust fans (was running 2 8" with cooltubes, then 4 8" without, although he was also running an AC and dehuey with cooltubes).
Long story short, everybody's gotta do whatever's best for their specific area, but I really couldn't imagine growing in a 4x4 tent without using a cooltube...........I'm sure it's possible, but I'm not inclined to use a 1000CFM fan to cool a tent (and I don't think the 2X air exchange works with a cab of that size - there's zero chance a 200CFM fan would keep a (4x4x6 = ~100CF tent) anywhere near liveable with a 600W bare bulb in there unless your intake temps were about 40F.
For the safety (no burning myself or plants that may fall into bulbs), efficiency (again, can cool my whole room with a 170CFM fan for the majority of the year, and in a non-med state where I'm already running 2000K watts for flowering, that's quite important to me), and the easier ability to dial my environment (running a sealed room and bare bulbs, humidity was in the 20s without adding in a humidifier), cooltubes fucking rock
Me, Bobble, and Mister D have a friendly wager going about who can yield more off of three stacked 600s...............they're both going bare bulbed and I'm using my cooltube.
Maybe after this little contest we'll have some more data to analyze
Long story short, everybody's gotta do whatever's best for their specific area, but I really couldn't imagine growing in a 4x4 tent without using a cooltube...........I'm sure it's possible, but I'm not inclined to use a 1000CFM fan to cool a tent (and I don't think the 2X air exchange works with a cab of that size - there's zero chance a 200CFM fan would keep a (4x4x6 = ~100CF tent) anywhere near liveable with a 600W bare bulb in there unless your intake temps were about 40F.
For the safety (no burning myself or plants that may fall into bulbs), efficiency (again, can cool my whole room with a 170CFM fan for the majority of the year, and in a non-med state where I'm already running 2000K watts for flowering, that's quite important to me), and the easier ability to dial my environment (running a sealed room and bare bulbs, humidity was in the 20s without adding in a humidifier), cooltubes fucking rock
Me, Bobble, and Mister D have a friendly wager going about who can yield more off of three stacked 600s...............they're both going bare bulbed and I'm using my cooltube.
Maybe after this little contest we'll have some more data to analyze
finally some legit competition...
D
DHF
TR....There`s much to be learned down here , and I also realize this ain`t your first rodeo ,.....but...
I LOATHE folks attackin each other to make a point cuz it accomplishes nothin but wastin bandwidth with no one learnin , REGARDLESS of post count. ....and ...
That`s why I stray away from the controversy , but speak my mind from experience and refuse to argue with folks that THINK they know the rules , when they have no clue........so...
Small grows take time to dial environment , but....once done .....All things come together for yields and runs per yr if thought out in advance to flip em ftw.....
Here ta help....DHF.........
I LOATHE folks attackin each other to make a point cuz it accomplishes nothin but wastin bandwidth with no one learnin , REGARDLESS of post count. ....and ...
That`s why I stray away from the controversy , but speak my mind from experience and refuse to argue with folks that THINK they know the rules , when they have no clue........so...
Small grows take time to dial environment , but....once done .....All things come together for yields and runs per yr if thought out in advance to flip em ftw.....
Here ta help....DHF....
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TR....There`s much to be learned down here , and I also realize this ain`t your first rodeo ,.....but...
I LOATHE folks attackin each other to make a point cuz it accomplishes nothin but wastin bandwidth with no one learnin , REGARDLESS of post count. ....and ...
That`s why I stray away from the controversy , but speak my mind from experience and refuse to argue with folks that THINK they know the rules , when they have no clue........so...
Small grows take time to dial environment , but....once done .....All things come together for yields and runs per yr if thought out in advance to flip em ftw.....
Here ta help....DHF....
I REALLY look forward to reading your posts, they are VERY informative, there to the point and I feel like I could learn something every time I read them....
I read a post of yours yesterday that made me rethink the entire way I go about my grow environment....
Appreciate your time here....
Kinda off subject, my bad.....
farmhouse cat
Member
I want in this competition!!! As soon as i can get my new strain up and runnin im pretty confident im gonna be a force to be reckoned with.
