What Is President Obama’s Problem With Medical Marijuana?

[medmaker420]

Obama is a politician who will say and do whatever he needs to in order to get elected and I think he will be doing the same exact thing to try and get re-elected which btw I think is going to happen. He will tell the potheads he will legalize while raiding the shit out of collectives or hell he might start using drones so he can say the feds are only lending surveilance equipment etc like he is playing with our foreign engagements.

The republicans propped up romney LOL he's like obamas darker brother LOL

Ron Paul is winning delegates left and right but they will find a way to remove all those and force them to back romney. I believe Ron Paul is the only one with the balls to actually legalize everything but with all the money backing assholes like romney and obama, our marijuana plant will remain illegal until monsanto is ready then it will odds are be legal for THEM and the government to grow but still illegal for us to grow BUT hey we will be able to buy it from our government, it will be safe but odds are once the government starts growing it somehow weed will probably start causing cancer once they start trying to "fix" herb in a lab.

I am so sick of the two party system and everything it stands for

 

[strawbrrygirl]

If we could all grow it legally in our backyards, it would have as much value as currency as tomatoes.

Which would be a great thing, IMO....

If it keeps my brothers and sisters out of the pokey thats all thats matters! Tomato maket is pretty good. Every store sells them and I buy them. Home grown tomatos are the Elite compared to the store bought stuff!

 

[zymos]

"There's just 2 things that money can't buy, and that's true love and a home grown tomato"
Guy Clark

 

[joe guy]

Oooooohhhhhhh how I love my tommy toes.

 

[joe guy]

Can't say that about the prez my self I supose he's better than hittler lol not sayin very much but it says sumthin... the government IS fucked up but its one of the least fucked up.. if all these ritchards would fuckin relax sit back and burn one they would realize that they wouldn't need half the shit the doctors are shoving down there mouth with out not being able to shit , insomina, nasuia,shit even killin ur self...wtf kinda med makes u wana slit ur wrist....
Sure the fuck NOT this one

 

[Bionic]

Maybe the fact that he's Dick Cheney's cousin has something to do with it.

 

[zymos]

They aren't actual cousins, they just went to the same Mosque in Kenya together...

 

[Bionic]

That's pretty funny but they are actual cousins. 8th, I believe.

 

[motaco]

"except in NM and one or two other states where they don't allow home growing."

Not true about NM. It is a separate permit you have to apply for tho....

did not know that. Good info.

Marijuana is one strongest currancy"s also! Intrest and inflation free!!!

I hope you are kidding. Inflation free? the stuff costs $20 a gram. Its hard to imagine a more inflated currency.

 

[Greeco]

You guys saying MMJ is the wrong approach are WAY off base. For god sakes its the only thing that has EVER worked and pushed forward the marijuana culture at all. There has been tremendous success. A few minor set backs and you are ready to go in a new direction? That is how they screwed us over this whole time.

They are trying to make the laws harsher for a real reason. Because we are winning, and its for the first time. Ever. MJ access is higher than ever, the quality is higher than ever, its more openly done than ever, and more states are choosing to have MMJ than ever.

So what if you have to fill out a few forms? Its the dispensary owners who are getting themselves in trouble and there is NO reason you have to approach the market via dispensaries except in NM and one or two other states where they don't allow home growing. That is a monumental shift in the law. You want to back down from an issue that for the first time ever managed to let people grow reasonable amounts of weed in their own homes legally? In order to chase an idea (full legalization) that has never worked anywhere in this country? At a time when 16 states have medical marijuana programs and most of them allow home growing? That is almost a third of the country. More will inevitably follow.

The genius of MMJ is that it allows politicians who have been touting the evils of cannabis for twenty or thirty years (often times not even believing it themselves) to have a loophole to back out of what they said. They aren't going to tell people they were talking bullshit for three decades to get elected, so they need a way to backhandedly sidestep away from decades of propaganda to appeal to the sensibilities of a different generation of voters.

Medical Marijuana allows that. It has the ability to portray normal adults using cannabis responsibly, in a matter that is nobody else's business. "Legalization" is still an idea with all the same negative connotations applied to it. 20 year old trust fund kids with dread locks having drum circles and playing didgeridoos outside of overpriced coffee shops. Which unfortunately is an easy message to sell to the conservative opponents. A clean cut Iraq veteran who uses marijuana to alleviate back pain from an IED or to deal with PTSD is a much easier product to sell to right wing conservative audiences. And a much easier product to garner support with among politicians.

The idea of abandoning the only idea we have ever had that worked because of a few minor setbacks? Unreal to me. MMJ is the thing behind the changing opinion of marijuana in the country. Opinion polls have never been higher.

I hope you were super stoned when you thought that up.

Hey I hear yeah. But I am worried the government might go in a direction to make extracts of the plants and let big Pharma take over the drug. I don't feel that smoked cannabis will be accepted as a medicine for much longer. I hope I am wrong though. I love these beautiful plants. But MMJ has gotten us very far, I just hope it doesn't back fire. I wasn't stoned when I wrote that, just concerned. =)

 

[devilgoob]

I'm banning couch cushions as they have a high potential for abuse.

So do CLONOPIN and mix it with your legal drug alcohol and get rid of the anxiety forever....... like psychiatrists make available drug that enable you to overcome fear and pass out and die...... to people with problems with control and suicidal tendencies. /s

 

[Guest2012z]

this is easy: monkeys dont know how to smoke, they eat the papers and blow the weed up in the air.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Obama is satisfied being the first black president. He isn't going to risk tainting that legacy by adding marijuana legalization to it.

 

[supermanlives]

obummer. he is full of shit and too busy trying to make the gay folks happy.

 

[growyourboat]

Obama is a would-be dictator....what else do you need to know?

 

[motaco]

Hey I hear yeah. But I am worried the government might go in a direction to make extracts of the plants and let big Pharma take over the drug. I don't feel that smoked cannabis will be accepted as a medicine for much longer. I hope I am wrong though. I love these beautiful plants. But MMJ has gotten us very far, I just hope it doesn't back fire. I wasn't stoned when I wrote that, just concerned. =)

You know that is true. They are going to try to push the extracts. Hell I read an article not long ago where some scientist was saying "this whole medical marijuana thing is almost over. Once Sativex comes out there is going to be no need for dispensaries and home growing". Or Dr. ElSohly thinking his going to market a successful cannabis suppository. I think there is a not so subtle hidden message in there. "If you believe in medical marijuana you can shove it up your ass." is the message I take from that.

Lol. The ignorance. For one thing we have had glycerin based tinctures for quite a while, and anyone who doesn't wish to smoke doesn't have to. They can just put a few drops under their tongue. No need to shove it up your ass.

But what you have to realize is that (smoked) medical marijuana is not and never will be a recognized medicine. Nothing that you smoke will be a recognized medicine by the FDA. But neither is crystal therapy. Or even chiropractors. It is deemed "alternative medicine", and in a free country we have the right to use what we feel works.

I think crystal therapy is pretty stupid in my personal opinion. That doesn't mean I think the FDA should send the feds in to close them down. Just because they start to make their own extracts with it doesn't mean they can stop the medical marijuana movement. In fact quite the opposite. How will they have a leg to stand on if they say there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana, and then they themselves make medicine with it?

People like the IMMEDIATE "zero to sixty" effect that smoked cannabis has. Pills, sprays, patches, suppositories, etc will never be able to offer that. It may never be considered medicine. But its usage will never be stopped either.

 

[HeartlandHank]

reelection. In 2015-2016, he will say something similar to what he recently said about same-sex marriage.

guessing he has been pro same-sex marriage and pro legalization for a long time. he has to play politics though. Around the election of 2008, remembering lots of people saying "he has to say that, to get elected" when a far left person complained of Obama's left of center social views.

 

[growyourboat]

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[Greeco]

You know that is true. They are going to try to push the extracts. Hell I read an article not long ago where some scientist was saying "this whole medical marijuana thing is almost over. Once Sativex comes out there is going to be no need for dispensaries and home growing". Or Dr. ElSohly thinking his going to market a successful cannabis suppository. I think there is a not so subtle hidden message in there. "If you believe in medical marijuana you can shove it up your ass." is the message I take from that.

Lol. The ignorance. For one thing we have had glycerin based tinctures for quite a while, and anyone who doesn't wish to smoke doesn't have to. They can just put a few drops under their tongue. No need to shove it up your ass.

But what you have to realize is that (smoked) medical marijuana is not and never will be a recognized medicine. Nothing that you smoke will be a recognized medicine by the FDA. But neither is crystal therapy. Or even chiropractors. It is deemed "alternative medicine", and in a free country we have the right to use what we feel works.

I think crystal therapy is pretty stupid in my personal opinion. That doesn't mean I think the FDA should send the feds in to close them down. Just because they start to make their own extracts with it doesn't mean they can stop the medical marijuana movement. In fact quite the opposite. How will they have a leg to stand on if they say there is no such thing as "medical" marijuana, and then they themselves make medicine with it?

People like the IMMEDIATE "zero to sixty" effect that smoked cannabis has. Pills, sprays, patches, suppositories, etc will never be able to offer that. It may never be considered medicine. But its usage will never be stopped either.

Well said. I'm not so concerned anymore. If they wanted to put a foot in the door they would probably need cannabis to be reclassified from a schedule 1 drug. Which is funny because the federal government holds a patient for medicinal cannabis. Oh the irony, when things are ran by capitalism a lot of bullshit stories and lies are spewed out. Everyone knows corporations have their fingers wrapped around politicians. But thats just human nature. That is why Thomas Jefferson suggested we have a revolution every 100 years or so I believe it was. Nothing is perfect... Thanks motaco, good point/post.

 

[sso]

...eh, if you need shitload of contributions to even become a president and once you are in office, most of your money comes from lobbyists..

that pretty much means that the presidents salary is mostly paid by corporations.

in effect, he is an corporate employee.

as in, he has a boss

and it aint the people of the country. (well, only very selectively so.)


i think that pretty much explains the president´s stance on drugs.

aside from the long list of legal corporations that make a buck on the drugwar (prisons for one )

then there is the under the table make a buck foundation (you think the pennypounding lower level drugdealers are the only one´s that want to keep the drugwar going? drugs are a multibillion dollar business, make the math, similar to politicians, druglords are just stooges.)