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Ron Paul 2012!!! Your thoughts on who we should pick for our "Cause"?

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dagnabit

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All the context I'd expect - from a blow up doll.
you're the expert ;)





seems the executive has quite the influence....

like raiding dispensaries or controling enforcement strategy.

try to bring up the hows and whys and you get all simple but when time comes to throw some blame at your opponents and all the sudden nuance abounds...

and i shake pom poms lmmfao!!!

it's ok though the object of your affection likes cheerleaders
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DiscoBiscuit

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you're the expert ;)

I pretty much pointed out your attempt at distraction.

seems the executive has quite the influence....
As long as you try to jamb the square peg in the round hole, you'll never grasp concepts like 'quite' and or 'influence'.

like raiding dispensaries or controling enforcement strategy.
Did your distraction sink?

try to bring up the hows and whys and you get all simple but when time comes to throw some blame at your opponents and all the sudden nuance abounds...
You have no hows and whys. You see a haystack and cry, That's not a hay stack, it's a straw... but only after you plucked it.
and i shake pom poms lmmfao!!!
Yeah, like you're 18 and like it.

it's ok though the object of your affection likes cheerleaders
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Imagine Seth Myers spoofing the headlines without a working knowledge of current events. Like yourself, he'd be the only one laughing at his jokes.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Since you are against it Disco it confirms the validity of the information


Hold on there, cowboy. If you wish to defend validity, it would behoove you to address those who challenge it.

Otherwise it's one of those, "why he say dat?":chin:

If you would go to the sight you took your quote from you would be able to see that the sight contains a vast number of different sources from all political view points. But as usual, instead of educating yourself or passing information to others, you have chosen to deflect and wander off in a tangental thought process.

Why he say dat?:chin:

I didn't quote anything. Wake up, it's time for your sleeping pill.

The only purpose you have had in this thread is to provoke and insult....

To the charges of provoking thought I stand guilty. To the charges of insult I say, when in Rome...

but even that has cause some great information by OTHERS to be posted so for that I will thank you for your contribution.

Peace

OOooopppsss.... pppsssttt.... Disco notice the big If. LMFAO

I notice you think you're on page. Apparently you missed the chapter. Point out the "quote", maybe I'll gather whatever you're talking about, mistaken of, :tumbleweed:
 

SpasticGramps

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Does Dave say anything about his party refusing to implement Wall Street reforms that basically firewall main-street money from investment products?
Your rebuttal of my points seemingly focuses on "who is to blame" the majority of the time. Finger pointing the red team. Never disproving the conclusions and thus the substance of the argument.

I don't like David. I don't like Reagan. I don't like the red team. But his analysis of the situation and the conclusions he draws from the facts are very difficult to dispute.

I don't care about who is to blame. IMO, we are all to blame. Me included. The red team is a bunch of corporatist warmongers and the blue team are statists that hide behind a false sense of altruism as an excuse for perpetually expanding centrist and consolidated power in the hands of the few (bankers).

The fact of the matter is that there is a major bond market crisis in Europe and it's going to spread here. It's the banking cartel, IMO, that owns both the red team and blue team that will impoverish us. But like I said, it's not really the blame that matters the end conclusion of global collectivism is the same.
 
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bentom187

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Santorum's gang read 95% of that same information and concluded that Santorum not only hadn't a snowball's chance in Hell, he risked party unity and the chances of ousting the incumbent.

Add up the 13 states into one delegate haystack and hand it to Paul. If that doesn't garner the necessary 1100+ delegates, would you be willing to concede?.

all to paul=898 romney has 829=1727 . 50%=863.5 , 50+1% is needed on the first round of voting is needed.
also the national convention rules apply once inside the rnc and i beleive unit rule is no longer enforcable,meaning they are unbound and can vote their concience.


Pundits are saying that brinkmanship has stalled tea party influence. All the bills that became law basically bypassed the tea party caucus. Ron Paul is taking this contest to the brink of his own party's future successes.

his own party has a identity crisis,and paul is of the old guard and its growing again. even taking lots of indies and some "blue republicans".

I might not be a Ron Paul supporter but I'm even less of a GOP fan. That said, Ron's starting to make this look like the '88 Libertarian Party ruckus. What was once described as a happy family became a soap opera of indirection, mistrust and contempt. Rothbard was run off over Austrian economics, Rockwell over intolerance, questionable past and associates.

Ron pretty much did the same thing he's doing now, walking into someone's home and declaring they're punking (their own rules.)

this is no longer the case,[YOUTUBEIF]a62dNGqQfNM[/YOUTUBEIF] he(krugman) concluded debates are no longer of value on his blog he has lots of books with facts in them.


Ron Paul might walk in your house and command your respect by showing you how and why your process is dysfunctional. If you get the rowdy noise prior to any impression that Ron Paul commands respect, game over.

The campaign has, at least the appearance of repelling those who aren't (yet?) ardent supporters, as if there's tens of millions of non-base fans. There's tens of millions of voters but anybody outside the base has to be influenced, not told they're a bunch of cheaters.

i think you havnt really searched for example : face book coalitions.

ron paul coalitions
veterans for ron paul
small businesses for ron paul
gun owners for ron paul
pro-lifers for ron paul
farmers for ron paul
home schoolers for ron paul
protestants for ron paul
seniors for ron paul
evangelicals for ron paul
doctors for ron paul
teachers for ron paul
greek americans for ron paul
hispanos for ron paul
catholics for ron paul
gamers for ron paul
military families for ron paul
hospitality workers for ron paul
accountants for ron paul
IT preffessionals for ron paul
attorney's for ron paul
ranchers for ron paul
taxpayers for ron paul
truckers for ron paul
bloggers for ron paul
bikers for ron paul
economist for ron paul
jews for ron paul
business leaders for ron paul
latter day saints for ron paul
foreign policy analysts for ron paul
blue republican voting for ron paul

you are presuming i have no analytical skills,or cognitive ones, or that i dont preceive things from a middle path,or couldnt judge things relitivley or objectivley , he commands my respect for many reasons not just because i hear about him on the internet,he seems to walk the walk and so far many previous administrations have not including the current one.
 

SpasticGramps

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John R Taylor runs a very large currency trading firm. Just sayin'.

John Taylor On Why "The Ground Is Not Solid Beneath Our Feet"
The Ground Is Not Solid Beneath Our Feet
May 10, 2012
By John R. Taylor, Jr.
Chief Investment Officer

Investors should be questioning their positive assumptions after the events of the past two weeks. Things have changed a great deal and rumors abound on how the authorities plan to support the market now. At the end of last month, only ten calendar days ago, the perky US equity market, the placid foreign exchange scene, calm credit spreads and rock-bottom volatility implied to us and anyone paying even cursory attention that the world was happy with the way things were turning out in 2012, no matter what the Mayan calendar might be saying. But now, after the Socialist victory in France, the Greek electoral disintegration, the poor US employment numbers and the disastrous European PMI readings the market is very uncertain with the EUR/USD below 1.30, Spanish 10-year Bonds back over 6.00% and equity markets down sharply around the world. Our cyclical analysis finds this weakness very appropriate as we should be in a decline.

A look back at the letters of the last two weeks will give you a hint as to our state of mind. I am clearly worried that we could be at the start of a serious meltdown in the global markets, not the same as 2008 and not like the flash crash of 2010, but perhaps incorporating some of the characteristics of both. At the same time, as a manager of corporate risk and an absolute return manager, I have to be ready for the government intervention that is sure to come. As you might guess, we are not too optimistic about the Eurozone authorities’ chances of final success, but the bad news will continue and eventually they will do something dramatic. The road to hell is paved with good intentions of governments, but they make for a volatile ride. We know we will be wrong on many counts, but our function as analysts is to lay out our view of the next few months, so here it goes:

We still believe Barack Obama is not likely to be re-elected this November as US unemployment is much more likely to be above 9% rather than below 8%. Although the US economy far outperformed our expectations during the first quarter, nothing has changed and 2012 will be a recession year with the Eurozone registering terrible numbers far exceeding what the market seems to expect.

Our estimate is below 2% even counting a generally flat performance in Germany. The real issue is Europe, not the US or Asia, but the drag spreading from its weakening banking structure will impact global trade and the animal spirits of the entire world. The picture is bad, but our cyclical work implies the global markets should bottom in – or risk will be off through – the period between September and November. The ferocity of this decline might be muted dramatically if the European authorities can figure out a way to minimize the North-South divisions that are tearing the Eurozone apart.

What makes the ground so uncertain beneath our feet is the reality of our current position: interest rates are at zero, fiscal budgets are stretched to the maximum, total national financial liabilities are at a breaking point and national monetary bases are a multiple of the highest they have ever been. Quite simply, there are no good borrowers. No one wants to loan anyone any money. Fiscal consolidation must be carried out, and that tends to mean recession and loss of wealth, which will negatively impact financial markets.

Although this can theoretically be an orderly process, the most likely course is not a fair parceling out of pain, but a frantic protection of selfish interests in which those with the upper hand will punish those that are weak.

Currently, the crunch is focused on Greece and the other indebted Eurozone countries, but their agony is almost certain to radiate throughout Europe and the world, unless they are given a kindly helping hand. Unfortunately, we are almost certain this will not happen. Not the IMF, Bernanke’s QE3 or any BRIC miraculous assistance will put this issue right, and the risk-off fervor will take global equities down, stop global credit growth and strengthen the dollar.
 

SacredBreh

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To hell with the puppets!

To hell with the puppets!

Pundits are saying that brinkmanship has stalled tea party influence. All the bills that became law basically bypassed the tea party caucus. Ron Paul is taking this contest to the brink of his own party's future successes.


Ron pretty much did the same thing he's doing now, walking into someone's home and declaring they're punking (their own rules.)

Ron Paul might walk in your house and command your respect by showing you how and why your process is dysfunctional. If you get the rowdy noise prior to any impression that Ron Paul commands respect, game over.

Think I would rather pick a LEADER that values the Republic, Freedom, Truth, PEACE, Rule of Law, Constitution, Bill of Rights and his Country more than "towing the party line" or being bought on the auction block (personal GREED)!

That would be my candidate of choice for "Our Cause" and the people of the United States...Dr. RON PAUL!

PEACE
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Your rebuttal of my points seemingly focuses on "who is to blame" the majority of the time. Finger pointing the red team. Never disproving the conclusions and thus the substance of the argument.

I don't like David. I don't like Reagan. I don't like the red team. But his analysis of the situation and the conclusions he draws from the facts are very difficult to dispute.

I don't care about who is to blame. IMO, we are all to blame. Me included. The red team is a bunch of corporatist warmongers and the blue team are statists that hide behind a false sense of altruism as an excuse for perpetually expanding centrist and consolidated power in the hands of the few (bankers).

The fact of the matter is that there is a major bond market crisis in Europe and it's going to spread here. It's the banking cartel, IMO, that owns both the red team and blue team that will impoverish us. But like I said, it's not really the blame that matters the end conclusion of global collectivism is the same.

I'm not saying elements of the rogue wrench crowd are imbecilic. I'm suggesting that IMO, they deserve no place in national politics. They may still remember how to plot a trend on a slide-rule but their ethics are bankrupt. Mitch Daniels isn't a knee jerk economist. In the few moments it took W to twist his holdouts' arms, Daniels had already estimated GDP couldn't sustain even a $350 billion revenue cut. But Daniels submitted to the national fraud that IMO is criminal.

Let's say your septic tank coughs and you call me to bring the truck. I tell you the designer of your tank is such a socialist, your shit won't just hit the fan. It'll cover your property as much as 3 feet thick. And if 3 feet turns into a 30 ft shit tsunami, well I'm just 10x more prophetic than we realized.:)

Then you find out I'm a Halliburton subsidiary and I dropped a quarter stick of dynamite into your tank (because last year's M-80 didn't force you onto Halliburton sewage.) You quite likely wouldn't waste time wondering whether I politicized the explosion.

These fuck heads fail human qualifications and I'm not talking about slithering from asunder. They're still in the business of shit box demolition so that one day, everybody will have to pay Halliburton's for what was once a reliable, public service.

Obviously, this is all a bit too shitty a scenario to contemplate. But seriously, the quality of my message doesn't depend on the shiny object I'm selling atm. If I previously shoved a banana up society's tailpipe, the shiny object might have the same effect as a chimpanzee.:yoinks:

EDIT - screeching halt. I got Dave mixed up with Mitch Daniels. If Dave's not a rogue wrench wrangler, I wouldn't politicize his msg for the sake of.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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all to paul=898 romney has 829=1727 . 50%=863.5 , 50+1% is needed on the first round of voting is needed.
also the national convention rules apply once inside the rnc and i beleive unit rule is no longer enforcable,meaning they are unbound and can vote their concience.

I don't understand what you're saying but I'll demonstrate my point. If Ron has what, 250? delegates and there's 898 left, that's 1148. (Not attempting to be exact,) I'm suggesting a sweep is the steepest odds on the board. Check Intrade, they post Vegas odds.

his own party has a identity crisis,and paul is of the old guard and its growing again. even taking lots of indies and some "blue republicans".
Looks like the ol' guard is telling ol' system, "You're cheating!" At least that's what I'm getting here and from campain rhetoric. Hell, I even saw Mrs. Paul say, "They're cheatin" on youtube after the Iowa caucus.

this is no longer the case,[youtubeif]a62dNGqQfNM[/youtubeif] he(krugman) concluded debates are no longer of value on his blog he has lots of books with facts in them.
Krugman wha? I know Ron has lots o books. He says lots of things. Sooner or later it would help if he attempted to narrow the discrepancies and detail some of the more extreme positions.

i think you havnt really searched for example : face book coalitions. ron paul coalitions
veterans for ron paul
small businesses for ron paul
gun owners for ron paul
pro-lifers for ron paul
farmers for ron paul
home schoolers for ron paul
protestants for ron paul
seniors for ron paul
evangelicals for ron paul
doctors for ron paul
teachers for ron paul
greek americans for ron paul
hispanos for ron paul
catholics for ron paul
gamers for ron paul
military families for ron paul
hospitality workers for ron paul
accountants for ron paul
IT preffessionals for ron paul
attorney's for ron paul
ranchers for ron paul
taxpayers for ron paul
truckers for ron paul
bloggers for ron paul
bikers for ron paul
economist for ron paul
jews for ron paul
business leaders for ron paul
latter day saints for ron paul
foreign policy analysts for ron paul
blue republican voting for ron paul
That might be a daunting list. Ever throw it up against Romney's for comparison? You know, just curiosity.

you are presuming i have no analytical skills,or cognitive ones, or that i dont preceive things from a middle path,or couldnt judge things relitivley or objectivley , he commands my respect for many reasons not just because i hear about him on the internet,he seems to walk the walk and so far many previous administrations have not including the current one.
I'm not presuming, perceiving or judging as that wouldn't address the odds. I don't generally pick on underdogs but some of Paul's fans will liken hanging by the short hairs to bungy diving Tampa Stadium. I'm just wondering when Mort Meat will duck into a phone booth and pop out as Shazzam.
 
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DiscoBiscuit

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Think I would rather pick a LEADER that values the Republic, Freedom, Truth, PEACE, Rule of Law, Constitution, Bill of Rights and his Country more than "towing the party line" or being bought on the auction block (personal GREED)!

That would be my candidate of choice for "Our Cause" and the people of the United States...Dr. RON PAUL!

PEACE

Oh, I thought you quoted me because your response had something to do with the quote. Oh yeah. Speaking of quote, where's that 'quote' I picked up off another website?

If you offered information that suggests a vote for Obama is quite possibly a low information vote, wouldn't you chuckle if I avoided your context, invented my own or just repeated, "Obama 2012!":woohoo:

I bet you would.
 

DiscoBiscuit

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Anybody see the reaction to Obama's personal acceptance of gay marriage? Advocates breathed a sigh of relief but detractors raised hell and Ed Henry will ask his burning question ten different ways at the press conference. Obama won't get short until it's apparent that Ed's insistence his questions aren't being answered are impinging on others' time.

If Obama gets short with Ed prematurely, Ed will ask the same questions for days on end. Ed's a prick but bearing even intense scrutiny is a requirement of the presidency.

If Ron wins the primary, some of his past scrutiny will be world-class. The early primary wasn't the time to hope that as few words possible would get the lid back on the newsletter jar. Stiff neck hair and wrinkled brow might have intimidated Dana Bash but Ron will realize he'll have to take it out, dust it off and deal with it before looking like he's squirming to change the subject. Otherwise he'll get the Ed treatment before he wins the election.

If he can bear the scrutiny of the newsletters while offering a plausible explanation, the rest of the general will be a smoother ride. It'll also show the guy can think and act even when he's simmering in broth like Obama does on a regular basis. I bet Obama's been grilled more than Indonesian dog.

Another thing that might be good to keep in mind - electing a black president exposed more of our collective, red neck. Where the office of the presidency used to be respected, it's now personalized according to who sits in the chair. Try not to take it personally when folks (including those who know less than what they're talking about) appear to disrespect the office itself along with the man.
 

dagnabit

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Jesus fucking Christ we get it already.
You like the status quo.
You like the corporatist fatcat candidates.

Why turbo post your drivel in this thread?
Are you that goddamn lonely?
Buy a goddamn dog man.



Question for the whole damn website....

Is there anyone here unaware that disco prefers obama?
No?

Ok then DB you have spread your birther style bullshit.

Other than "democrat good republican bad" got anything to contribute?
I know its all bush's fault blah blah blah but seriously ffs
 
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Ron Paul third party run would hurt President Obama, new poll finds



As Ron Paul continues to cause commotion in the Republican Party, a recent Rasmussen poll tested what likely voters would do if the Texas Congressman ran in the general election as an independent.

The poll demonstrated that a three-way-race could ultimately help assumed Republican nominee Mitt Romney. Of the 1,000 likely voters polled, 44 percent said they would vote for Romney, while 39 percent chose Barack Obama and 13 percent chose Paul.

However, 61 percent said they believe Paul should not run as a third party candidate. 25 percent were supportive of the idea and 13 percent were not sure.

Aside from hurting Obama, a third-party run by the long-time Republican Congressman might also hurt his son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who is expected to continue the movement his father built.

Regardless, Ron Paul has said repeatedly that he will stay in the race for the Republican nomination until all of the votes are counted. Recent caucus wins include Iowa and Maine, where he took a majority of the delegates.
 
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