Its time has come - A PRO-CANNABIS SuperPAC. Your ideas are needed!

[Nonphixion]

But what if our PAC had been running ads showing the blatant hypocrisy and the COST of that hypocricy - both to taxpayers and in human terms? What if those ads encouraged people to contact their local representatives (and maybe tailored each ad for each market so that the contact info for their representatives were IN the ad) and push them to get involved in getting it pushed through committee?

That's the kind of thing I see having the fastest impact. Doing all the work for stoners so that they simply have to pick up the phone and dial the number on the screen and have LOTS of people doing it.

The problem with that is, at least in my state one representative covers a 20 block radius or less, and there are three people more or less unique to that area. I believe they are the assemblyman, senator, and congressman. The latter two are more constant but still vary more than the local TV stations do.

I think targeted billboards in certain demographic areas would be more cost effective in this respect. Viral video marketing campaigns with recognizable names from the entertainment industry, or at the very least scantily clad babes could reach several orders of magnitude of a greater audience.

 

[Guest 88950]

personally i would stray from naming it anything cannabis/marijuana/420 b/c it might draw unwanted attention to soon.

give it a fancy name as to not draw neg. attention........"Americans for Sensable Policies" or something like that but i think this could be a critical step forward if done right.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Yeah, it needs a name you'd expect from the other side.

 

[Anti]

The problem with that is, at least in my state one representative covers a 20 block radius or less, and there are three people more or less unique to that area. I believe they are the assemblyman, senator, and congressman. The latter two are more constant but still vary more than the local TV stations do.

Excellent points!

When i said "local representative" i meant mostly senators and congressman. Depending on what campaign we were working on.

Like... most cost effective of all? Lets continue to use last year's rescheduling bill (2306 or something) as our example:

It needed to get out of committee first and foremost. So before we go running ads in all 50 states, why not run ads in the major population centers of the states that the members of the committee represent?

Put pressure on THEM directly to move it to a vote on the floor...

Then at that point, run ads soliciting money for the PAC in places like New York and Los Angeles and use that money to run further, more general ads.

I think targeted billboards in certain demographic areas would be more cost effective in this respect. Viral video marketing campaigns with recognizable names from the entertainment industry, or at the very least scantily clad babes could reach several orders of magnitude of a greater audience.

I see viral videos being a major part of a campaign that could be started pretty much ANY time. We just need to make a video, upload it to youtube and start spreading the links and the meme around social networks.

What I would prefer to do before we get to that step is to try to get all the kinks worked out amongst ourselves as much as possible.

 

[LouDog420]

I like the seed auctions for funds

Support the cause, and feed the seed junkie within!!

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

personally i would stray from naming it anything cannabis/marijuana/420 b/c it might draw unwanted attention to soon.

give it a fancy name as to not draw neg. attention........"Americans for Sensable Policies" or something like that but i think this could be a critical step forward if done right.

^we want people to know what it is, but we want to look good and patriotic.

I Like Americanna Pac

I like the seed auctions for funds

Support the cause, and feed the seed junkie within!!

Ya, not gonna raise the millions we need, but is a good thing to do anyways just to get her started. What we need to do is get the celebrities that support weed and live in cali all grow 6 plants and youtube all themselves together in one ten minute video. imagine the national outrage if all our comedians and celebrities are jailed for 6 pot plants grown in protest of unjust laws. Jimmy Fallon, jimmy kimmel, bill maher, charlie sheen, zach galifianakis, sara silverman, joe rogan, seth rogan, john stewart, Oliver Stone, Joan Rivers, cheech, chong, chris rock, arj barker, will farrel, John cho, Kal Pen, doug benson, Matthew McConaughey, Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston, Jack Black, Woody Harrelson, Adam Carolla, Johnny Depp, Owen Wilson, Cameron Diaz, James Franco, Kristen Stewart, Drew Barrymore, etc.

 

[Nonphixion]

FairTaxPAC? SaferMedicinePAC? GoodMedicinePAC? SensibleLawsPAC? SafeReformPAC? Or some kind of combination of these...

 

[Anti]

give it a fancy name as to not draw neg. attention........"Americans for Sensable Policies" or something like that but i think this could be a critical step forward if done right.

Excellent suggestion:

"Americans for Sensible Policies"

"Americans For a Sensible America"

"Americans For Sensible Government"

"We The People"

(just brain storming, feel free to toss your own in.)

 

[bentom187]

sensible american policies PAC (SAPP) ?

 

[bentom187]

another idea, contingent on IC's permission,is we could use seedbay to host "moneybomb"style seed sales, for each specific ,already existing superPAC (totally annon) or other cause that we could vote on like POTM, on this website.
i beleive it would be in their intrest because the end result is more bisness,espeacially if they end up with locations in the US or trade freely across our borders.

 

[Crusader Rabbit]

Using seed sales from this site to finance a political operation, is probably the quickest way to get it targeted and shut down that I could imagine.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

Using seed sales from this site to finance a political operation, is probably the quickest way to get it targeted and shut down that I could imagine.

I'll have to agree with this one. We need to be squeaky clean.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

ya we need to have a government figure, or lobbyist sponsor this for it to be taken seriously

Lets get Carl Rove to enjoy some dank. That evil bastard can do anything in Washington. lol

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

How about Dan Rather? He's pissed enough at the main stream media to do something like this, and now that he's no longer with CBS, he doesn't have anything to lose.

He's already on the record for being at least fair to the MMJ movement.

Read up, knowledge is power!

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/content/2011/03/31/Dan-Rather-Mexican-Standoff

 

[abellguy]

ProgressiveCannabisReformPAC = PCRpac, ForwardCannabisPAC = FCpac

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

if you title it progressive it is dead in the water

 

[abellguy]

if you title it progressive it is dead in the water

lol AmericansForCannabisReform = ACRpac? Don't want it dead before it even gets off the ground

 

[MadBuddhaAbuser]

We should ask former Governor of New Mexico Gary Johnson. He is pro cannabis legalization, out of office so he has nothing to lose, experienced in Washington, and is Libertarian and can get a bill sponsored by Ron Paul and Barney Frank.

GJ wouldnt be a terrible idea, at the least he is a good respected politician on our side.

Well... that's why we're here talking about it.

What do you suggest?

just quick thinking here but off the top....

The named party would have to be pretty legit (non-grower) and someone not afraid of the IRS fucking with them. Even though from the small amount of research ive been doing, the IRS has backedd off of SuperPAC inquests, mostly at the behest of republican congress(which helps romney, but probably wouldnt translate to our cause)

it would undoubtedly need some sort of board of directors, one person alone wouldnt be able to keep abreast of all developments nationwide and might lead to too much of a slant.

we need to collect all the names of pro cannabis candidates(and I mean like ACTUAL procannabis people, co-sponsors of various bills and such not just someone pandering for votes or saying "oh yeah its a good topic" or something like that. We need to only be supporting people who put themselves down on record as voting for these measures. HR 2306 has about 20 cosponsors, those are good start.

media decisions would ultimately have to come down to the board, but I mean it could be up for vote.



Also a very key part of the annoynimity in a superpac involves setting up a 501 (c)(4), so you would also have to set-up the non-profit. A superpac alone has to disclose. Another issue with the 501, is that the primary purpose should not(or can not, not entirely sure yet, these are murky waters) have as its main purpose political fundraising. which in theory means it would actually have to engage in charitable acts.(maybe helping out familys of locked up growers, or community improvement or whatever) So there is that aspect.

Which, if you really think about it, is nothing but admirable, and no better way to change peoples opinions by being helpful.

ill keep looking into it and thinking it over. But i think im actually really starting to dig this idea. Kudos man.


a couple superPAC readings to familiarize people

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/23/147294509/examining-the-superpac-with-colberts-trevor-potter

http://www.marketplace.org/topics/economy/how-be-super-pac-stephen-colbert

And here's a guy who has over 60 superPACS, covering about every possible topic(expect ours).

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/18/super-pac-man-gobbles-up-regulators’-time-patience/


*EDIT- the way it works basically is, the annonymous donations go to 501, then those go to SuperPAC annoynmously.

 

[CannaBunkerMan]

What will the purpose of said PAC be? It should be short, clear and consice.

or...

Should the purpose statement be broad, so that no one in the comunity is marginalized?

Is our main purpose to educate? To offer a counter to the reefer madness naritive? Are we for legalization? Regulation? Does this unnecessarily tie us into symentics if we focus on changing law? Should it be to further the MMJ, or to bring MJ out of the closet, and into mainstream?

 

[abellguy]

What will the purpose of said PAC be? It should be short, clear and consice.

or...

Should the purpose statement be broad, so that no one in the comunity is marginalized?

Is our main purpose to educate? To offer a counter to the reefer madness naritive? Are we for legalization? Regulation? Does this unnecessarily tie us into symentics if we focus on changing law? Should it be to further the MMJ, or to bring MJ out of the closet, and into mainstream?

IMHO along with the many other great things it could achieve one of the main things needs to be the unveiling of the fallacies that have been place on marijuana as a hole and educating on the many different aspects of its varied uses. Hemp for food, fiber, and fuel, MMJ for the healing of the nation