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Flush an organic grow or no?
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yeps420
Sup Bro.
As far As I have read.
All grows need a good flush reg.
Only Difference is how long and many times you flush.
Organic seems to tend to need less flushing. I.e 1-2 flushes a week of 2 before cut.
Heavy fed soil maybe 4 times through 2 -3 weeks depending.
I am trying adding Molasses to the tail end of my flushings for sweetness... well see..
Good luck. bro.
As far As I have read.
All grows need a good flush reg.
Only Difference is how long and many times you flush.
Organic seems to tend to need less flushing. I.e 1-2 flushes a week of 2 before cut.
Heavy fed soil maybe 4 times through 2 -3 weeks depending.
I am trying adding Molasses to the tail end of my flushings for sweetness... well see..
Good luck. bro.
redneck shogun
Member
You will have to restrict what you add to the soil in the begining to starve a plant. Flushing will probably do you little good.
joe guy
Member
I always read that u should flush even during reg grow to knock down salt build up this is my first time using organic my self doin a lil side by side with advanced and go.. but I flush with flora kleen every month just to keep it in check. And that's all they get with ro water week and half b4 u choppem my sour dez tasted amazing... its not worth much but there's my 2cents....
Guest02345
Member
some people do some dont.
personally i give two straight/plain pH'd waters at the end of flowering...which usually is about 1 week of flushing. im all organic.
you can tell how well a plant was flushed by the color of the ash after smoked...for example the darker the ash the more nutes left in the plant...the whiter/greyer the cleaner/better flushed the plant was.
hope this helps
personally i give two straight/plain pH'd waters at the end of flowering...which usually is about 1 week of flushing. im all organic.
you can tell how well a plant was flushed by the color of the ash after smoked...for example the darker the ash the more nutes left in the plant...the whiter/greyer the cleaner/better flushed the plant was.
hope this helps
nope.
the nutrients you add to make them grow are not the same after being absorbed by the roots.
the plant uses the nutrients to make things like ADP, ATP, sugars, phenols, esters, acids, etc. they are combined with water, oxygen, hydrogen, and carbon to build cellulose and the rest of the plants constituents...
flushing an organic soil grow makes no sense...unless you are trying to kill the microbes that your plant gets its nutrients from by drowning them...you cannot simply wash microbes from the rhizosphere with a drench because they attach themselves with polysacharides (sugars).
adding molassess in the last trimester will put your microbes into overdrive...not that your plant will need use them, but your plants roots exude sugars, they don't absorb them (not as sugars anyways). the plant relies on the microbes to do that.
your plants absorb ions of chemical elements. sugars are long-chain molecules, not ions.
at least this is my understanding of the process...please correct me on the parts you can't agree with.
the nutrients you add to make them grow are not the same after being absorbed by the roots.
the plant uses the nutrients to make things like ADP, ATP, sugars, phenols, esters, acids, etc. they are combined with water, oxygen, hydrogen, and carbon to build cellulose and the rest of the plants constituents...
flushing an organic soil grow makes no sense...unless you are trying to kill the microbes that your plant gets its nutrients from by drowning them...you cannot simply wash microbes from the rhizosphere with a drench because they attach themselves with polysacharides (sugars).
adding molassess in the last trimester will put your microbes into overdrive...not that your plant will need use them, but your plants roots exude sugars, they don't absorb them (not as sugars anyways). the plant relies on the microbes to do that.
your plants absorb ions of chemical elements. sugars are long-chain molecules, not ions.
at least this is my understanding of the process...please correct me on the parts you can't agree with.
ammended soils dont flush well. cant flush out ammendments that break down slowly
after smoking a bowl and thinking on this, i may contradict myself.
feeding with molassess water before harvest will indeed make the microherd population explode, perhaps to the point of overpopulating. the population would reduce amount of available nutrients by immobilizing them.
will the plants still exude sugars or will they sense an overabundance and stop?
maybe i'm overthinking this...where's Madd or Microbeman on this fence?
feeding with molassess water before harvest will indeed make the microherd population explode, perhaps to the point of overpopulating. the population would reduce amount of available nutrients by immobilizing them.
will the plants still exude sugars or will they sense an overabundance and stop?
maybe i'm overthinking this...where's Madd or Microbeman on this fence?
humm to flush or not to flush organic grow
this depends on the persons interpetation of the word flush.
my interpetation is only plain water last 14 days of the grow
now another interpatation is my plants sick and how do i flush the meduim. well in this case i would 3-5 times in water size of medium. say 1 gal pot gets 3-5 gals water last gal water would be a light dose of ferts.
now on amended soils i would try clearex 1 tblspn per gal water is what i use 2 waterings in a row at begining of flush for harvest.
because organics can be very very hard to flush from the soil.
how to tell if plants been flushed enough days, well i remove a few fam leaves from diff sections of plant. now chew the stem from end towards the leaf. if it's sweet tasting its ready for harvest if still bitter water tad longer.
when i water my plants normally i water to achieve 15-20% drainage.
my 1st watering i fresh soil is allways plain PH'd @ 6.5
2nd watering ferts added and then PH'd @ 6.5
i alternate fert feedings
1 plain watern
1 fert watern
plain watern
fert so on so forth untill 14-16 days before harvest then it's 1st 2 waterings is w/clearex all others are plain PH'd 6.5
hope this helps some
G
growingcrazy
I think flushing depends a lot on your grow style. If you are really pushing plants to the uptake limits in a hydro system then I would say flushing can't hurt.
If you are running an organically amended soil mix, your pretty much stuck with what is left in the soil at the end of the run. Most people try and amend with just enough to get the plant to become deficient of nutrients near the end.
I run an organic soil bed, with no drain. I cannot flush, ever, period. I take care of my soil and my plants feed from that soil, that is all. Nothing leaves my beds unless it goes in form of bud(all trim and stems go back into the bed).
I have run all three of these organic grow methods, the soil bed has the best flavor of the group from my experience.
Do plants get flushed outdoors in the wild? I think not! That's best way I can put it.
GC
If you are running an organically amended soil mix, your pretty much stuck with what is left in the soil at the end of the run. Most people try and amend with just enough to get the plant to become deficient of nutrients near the end.
I run an organic soil bed, with no drain. I cannot flush, ever, period. I take care of my soil and my plants feed from that soil, that is all. Nothing leaves my beds unless it goes in form of bud(all trim and stems go back into the bed).
I have run all three of these organic grow methods, the soil bed has the best flavor of the group from my experience.
Do plants get flushed outdoors in the wild? I think not! That's best way I can put it.
GC
Dick~n~Dirt
Member
Interesting points in this thread. Thanks guys !
