I need a B52 replacement recipe!

[TREE KING]

guys i know its more expensive but isnt rhizotonic a b-52 substitute? someone recommended it to me and then i checked it out, it has b vitamins, kelp, and a bunch of other stuff

 

[catalyte]

^it can get you the same kind of effect that B52 does..... not identical but similar products AFAIK

 

[El Toker]

Best B52 replacement is water. Much cheaper and just as effective. You've got the bonus that plants actually need water.

 

[TREE KING]

^it can get you the same kind of effect that B52 does..... not identical but similar products AFAIK

i appreciate the response but im curious what you think the difference would be? someone said he used it beside b-52 and the b-52 lost big time. im gonna try it out

 

[Cabron]

Best B52 replacement is water. Much cheaper and just as effective. You've got the bonus that plants actually need water.

The door prize goes to this educated poster...
at least he actually did his research and knows bogus bullshit when he sees it...

Thrive alive,,superthrive, and especially AN's B52 are all classic examples of snake oil for plants...

B vitamins do NOTHING for plants.... beneficial microbes and hormones such as IBA do....


http://www.almadenvalleynursery.com/site/breaking-the-vitamin-b-1myth-articles.php



try google and read up on it...actual studies ,not marketing hype for a product ,of course they are going to lie....

 

[Lowman]

Greenleaf Nutrients says their B Alive is similar to B-52.

http://greenleafnutrients.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=13

 

[catalyte]

The door prize goes to this educated poster...
at least he actually did his research and knows bogus bullshit when he sees it...

Thrive alive,,superthrive, and especially AN's B52 are all classic examples of snake oil for plants...

B vitamins do NOTHING for plants.... beneficial microbes and hormones such as IBA do....


http://www.almadenvalleynursery.com/site/breaking-the-vitamin-b-1myth-articles.php



try google and read up on it...actual studies ,not marketing hype for a product ,of course they are going to lie....

never heard this till today....

Can you or someone else further substantiate this claim??

With all due respect Cabron, it seems to me it's just this guy on his own who thinks this....


or maybe I'm just getting pissed thinking of all the b vitamin products i have poured into rezes over the years and the possibility this guy's article is right!!!! hahahahah

 

[TREE KING]

The door prize goes to this educated poster...
at least he actually did his research and knows bogus bullshit when he sees it...

Thrive alive,,superthrive, and especially AN's B52 are all classic examples of snake oil for plants...

B vitamins do NOTHING for plants.... beneficial microbes and hormones such as IBA do....


http://www.almadenvalleynursery.com/site/breaking-the-vitamin-b-1myth-articles.php



try google and read up on it...actual studies ,not marketing hype for a product ,of course they are going to lie....

have you ever tried b-52?

i dont know if its the b vitamins in it or maybe the kelp but every time i foliar spray my plants they get a big boost in growth and are quick to snap out of transplant shock and stressful situations

 

[Bill Clinton]

Greenleaf's substitute works well.

Hey Cabron...

http://www.plantphysiol.org/content/138/3/1505.abstract

I only found that ONE article that said anything negative about Bvitamins...

are there any more?

Of course, its the 1st article that comes up when you punch google...

ya gotta dig a little deeper though....

 

[YosemiteSam]

Best B52 replacement is water. Much cheaper and just as effective. You've got the bonus that plants actually need water.

ding, ding, ding...winner, winner, chicken dinner.

the placebo effect is apparently super strong with weed growers. not all that many corn farmers add b vitamins to their plants.

 

[Bill Clinton]

LOL...not all that many corn farmers get 3600 a lb...

Alot of them are who have destroyed our environment.

Whats your point?

Got a link?

 

[YosemiteSam]

The fact that they don't get 3600 a lb makes them way fucking better farmers than a bunch of stoners that buy into all kinds of fucking marketing hype.

My point is your plants do not need B vitamins.

Your choice on whether to believe that or not.

Good luck to you regardless of what you believe.

 

[Bill Clinton]

I pull 2p's per 1k bulb homie...

I can WELL determine what they need.

I posted a link.

You posted your opinion.

Believe what you will.


Do plants NEED an ACT? Hell no....

Do they LIKE an ACT? Hell yes....


So, please give me a link that says plants dont benefit from Bvits in any way.

 

[northstate]

Chill Bill, You are about to get impeached. YosemiteSam has more knowledge of salt based nutes and chemistry than most people. Take a deep breath claimer and go to the nutes&fertilizer forum and read up a little bit instead of paying for pretty labels, unless of course you want to throw more money away. Just sayin' NS

 

[Bill Clinton]

Chill Bill, You are about to get impeached. YosemiteSam has more knowledge of salt based nutes and chemistry than most people. Take a deep breath claimer and go to the nutes&fertilizer forum and read up a little bit instead of paying for pretty labels, unless of course you want to throw more money away. Just sayin' NS

You ever seen the label on Greenleaf B alive...lol.....? It aint too fancy.


LOL....I'm chill as they come.

I'm about learning. Not passing on my opinion.

There is an intelligent link about Bvitamins and SARS I posted...did you read it?


I'm just asking some questions...no need for anybody to get offended.

Thats why we post links...to back up what we say.

If I am wrong there should be a running TON of science to back it up. I would love to read it.

What I have been reading are the benefits of B vitamins.

 

[Bill Clinton]

This is why I am saying I like using B vitamins (amongst other things..of course..lol...) This is 4 plants per 1k bulb.

 

[Bill Clinton]

Chill Bill, You are about to get impeached.

LOL !!.......too funny

 

[northstate]

Bill- I am glad you took that how it was meant to come across...its hard over the net sometimes. The effects of B vitamins has been debated for a long time. Evidence is hard to come by as to it being a really usefull part of the feeding regimen. I will look around in my archives to see if I have anything to post up. Good looking plants in there.NS

 

[YosemiteSam]

You are free to grow however you want. It matters not to me.

But, I think you are asking the wrong question. Before I spend money on something I ask show me it does work...not show it doesn't.

Like I said...best of luck to you.

 

[Bill Clinton]

You are free to grow however you want. It matters not to me.

But, I think you are asking the wrong question. Before I spend money on something I ask show me it does work...not show it doesn't.

Like I said...best of luck to you.

Of course I am free to grow however I want.

The question I asked was for a B52 replacement recipe.

I am happy with Greenleaf's product.


I never asked anybody's opinon on B vitamins.


I dont need luck. I know how to grow.